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December 11, 2023, 01:25:36 PM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

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December 11, 2023, 01:40:12 PM
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No matter how much you try to warn newbie gamblers, they'd still believe that beginner's luck carries on and they are destined to win a lot of games just because they won the first time. Winning something releases feel good hormones which is addicting, and those who can't control these urges tend to chase this feeling because it is already embedded in their brains. It's just like doing something you deem as fun, and because you are enjoying it, you keep on coming back to it.

I guess the best advice is that those who gamble should keep track of how much they spent on gambling and that they take things easy. It's something that will claw through you every now and then and you'll give in because you're feeling lucky.

Yes that's right, the first win they get makes them confident that the next game can get the same win back and even get a bigger win, and this is already a fact. most beginners who have won at the beginning will continue to gamble because they are sure they will get a win back in the next game. even though it is not necessarily clear, most likely they will get a defeat that will drain their finances too not in small amounts. but in large amounts if they cannot limit their gambling.

And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.

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December 11, 2023, 01:43:55 PM
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It's tricky to rely your betting amount and the frequency of your bets in the future just because you won during your first try. Sometimes, they say that a first time is a charm, but it isn't like that for everyone. Some gets lucky, while some don't, and that's the reality. So you should manage your expectations when it comes to winning because not everytime luck will be in your favor.

If you do win during your first bet without much background knowledge, then good for you. But think thoroughly and research for the next time around. Nothing beats a person with an enough information and skills to win a bet alongside with luck.
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December 11, 2023, 01:50:13 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

Just imagine if a person signed up on the gambling platform and on his first five attempts all were a loss. Would he still be back to gamble? Not right. This kind of marketing strategy means that the gambler will come back the second time, which means that there is a huge chance that he will deposit a huge amount of money but the result is he will lose it. Though I am not saying in all aspects as I do believe in gambler's beginners luck as I have experienced this mostly in physical gambling, right now in online gambling it is hard to determine if it is gambler's luck or if they just do it so that you will come back.
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December 11, 2023, 01:54:31 PM
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And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.
The thing that should not be done when gambling is not to be too confident in winning at the start because that can lead anyone to defeat. It is true what you said that an initial win is a loss that is not expected by all gamblers, I mean beginner gamblers because they are usually too confident and confident in the victory they just got for the first time they played.

There are many cases where casinos play with people's feelings to find out their character and how they play gambling, therefore the dealer never experiences defeat and always wins in the end, gamblers will only become losers and addicts if they can't really control those feelings at the first win. they get, it really is a trap that every novice gambler must understand.

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December 11, 2023, 09:19:04 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

Winning or losing their first gambling experience is not the reason why it is dangerous for the beginner.  It is the possibility of losing one control that is dangerous in gambling. Since when they lose their control, these people will be using money the can not afford to lose and eventually selling their properties in order to support their gambling activities.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

It is true that not all who have their first engagement in gambling win huge amount of money.  A great example is people who are buying lottery tickets.  Almost all first time buyer of lottery tickets losses.   The thing the fuels this people who losses in gambling is the shining possibility of winning a jackpot which can change their lives.
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?
Specially when you are just simply doing your first gambling sessions or simply being a noob on which on the time that you do make up those win then this is the time that you would really be having those kind of thoughts that winning in gambling would really be just that easy and this would really be the start on making yourself getting involved with gambling because of those kind of hopes and beliefs that you do have in mind.
Its a common thing and scenario on which this is where control and discipline would really be that relevant. First wins arent really that a trap knowing that gambling do really just simply involves neither winning or losing.
it is really just that things been mold up basing on the situation because if you are that someone whose really having that good control then you wont really be finding yourself for any problems
on which it is really just that right that you would really be having reactions but if you do have that kind of control then everything wont really be that much hard to understand and able to assess it well.

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Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.

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What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

You see these gambling sites are actually strategic in their thoughts and approaches.

Yes, they are in for money making but they also want to increase productivity using psychological means when possible.

I personally believe they employ the services of psychologist to psycho-analyze people and their behavioural patterns and then deploy it as a strategy.


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December 12, 2023, 02:19:56 AM
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Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.
When someone wins the first gambling game they play, it will certainly make them interested in the gambling they are playing, but if they cannot control themselves in the game they are playing, it will certainly cause them to experience a lot of losses so that they spend a lot of money to be able to gamble.
It's true that it's better for us to enjoy playing than just winning at gambling and getting money and if we only focus on winning and money, of course we won't have time to enjoy the games we play.

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It’s not a trap to be honest. Yes we gamblers just become more excited after winning the first game and then we think that we will win big amount from gambling. You can only consider it as a trap only if the casino manipulates the game’s outcome. But it’s your luck which plays an important role. You need to control yourself and don’t get away with the first win emotion. Gamble in limit and with the amount that you can afford to lose.

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Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.



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And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.
The thing that should not be done when gambling is not to be too confident in winning at the start because that can lead anyone to defeat. It is true what you said that an initial win is a loss that is not expected by all gamblers, I mean beginner gamblers because they are usually too confident and confident in the victory they just got for the first time they played.

There are many cases where casinos play with people's feelings to find out their character and how they play gambling, therefore the dealer never experiences defeat and always wins in the end, gamblers will only become losers and addicts if they can't really control those feelings at the first win. they get, it really is a trap that every novice gambler must understand.

It's not wrong to be confident in something, but if we are too confident, that's not good, it can lead to mistakes that will create chaos. Yes, that's right, beginning gamblers or beginners are usually too self-confident so they believe that the actions they take are correct, where after they lose they still gamble with full confidence that they will win again, not realizing that in my opinion they are trapped in gambling because of the initial victory they get which makes them too confident.

The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.


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December 12, 2023, 06:40:37 AM
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Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.
Those who are gambling for the first time have the possibility of winning and that has happened a lot to people who are new to gambling. They might think that playing gambling is easy and they can win, but in reality, that won't be the case because in the second gambling game, they might experience loss and that could cause them to lose all their money.

Those who feel that playing gambling is easy and can win will feel disappointed because gambling is not what they expected. As they get more and more losses, it doesn't make them realize it. Instead, they want to win more and more. And that will result in them gambling more often instead of trying to control themselves and limit themselves from gambling.

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December 12, 2023, 06:46:53 AM
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I think that is really how gambling works. Without trap, the owner of the gambling site won't make any profit just by making odds in favor of the bettor.  It all runs on codes maybe random or not so I think things could be staged and made it unnoticeable for gamblers to realize the truth about the dirty tricks casino owners embedded on their casino games like slots. First game win trap is a more effective trap we sometimes get into.

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December 12, 2023, 09:22:16 AM
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For the first time many gamblers are wearing such traps in gambling. In the beginning they are very difficult to understand and those who are addicted are more affected. They do not understand the loss of their own thinking that they will get a huge amount of money for the first time, so they are more in the trap. The gambling will have to make money on an uncertain result as a bet. Many people argue that there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as the gambler's money is with themselves and he is addicted this is what we take to the gamblers addiction and the gamblers lose their control.

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December 12, 2023, 09:53:27 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.


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December 12, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
When someone is new to gambling, he has no good or bad experience with gambling.  So if he luckily wins his first bets then he has a good experience with gambling and he thinks that he will win like this in the future even if he loses later he thinks that he can win again and recover these losses.  Thinking this, he continued to gamble and suffered huge losses.  And if someone loses at the beginning of the game, he first has a bad experience which reduces his interest in gambling and he does not become a serious gambler.



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December 12, 2023, 10:02:10 AM
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The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.
I agree that the reason some peoole start to gamble is because they see it as a way to make money, but I do not think they heard from people that they gamble and make money from it. Gambling is in the nature of humans as they will see it as a way of making money without anyone advising them. Another thing is that someone can first gamble and lose, but still thinking that he can use it to make money and continue to gamble and get addicted. Be it you win or lose at first time does not means anything.

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December 12, 2023, 10:22:18 AM
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The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.


I think that's what must be instilled into the minds of gamblers, no one can beat the dealer's machine, still the dealer will always win, even though gamblers often win in the first game but the habit of gamblers is often greedy with that win and tries to look for higher wins. Moreover, the winnings are not entirely his because if he continues to play the winnings and even the capital he has will continue to be drained.

Loss will always stick with any gambler, so we don't have to be surprised by that. As long as we can control ourselves so we don't get caught up in the games provided by the casino, maybe we can avoid losing a lot of money when gambling. The point is, don't be greedy when gambling, especially when you win the first game. Self-control when gambling is a way to continue gambling safely.

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