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February 10, 2024, 11:38:36 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

If I were in her situation, I would be angry too. Even if her son took a lot of money or a small amount, it's still not good. Her son needs to be disciplined even if we say that the child's money that he took won millions, that is still wrong, it is still called theft especially if he is of the right age because you said that he took money to gamble so I assume that her son is of legal age. When her son gets used to that, he may not be the only one to do that, the son may also do it to other people because of his addiction to gambling. So while it's still early, discipline, scold or whatever so that it doesn't happen again.
No parent would really be liking on what your son had done on which we know that stealing is never been that good no matter how small or big it is, as a parent then you would really be scolding your son about it. It is part of parenting and our responsibility on leading them into the right path. If ever they did end up on the wrong path then you would be needing it to straight.
We cant be perfect as a parent but we would really be doing our best for leading them into the right path. So if ever they would really be doing those bad things then it would be a
normal reaction for us to get angry but as a parent then we would really be just that forgetting those things on which its a normal approach and reactions to have.
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February 16, 2024, 11:59:06 PM
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Using money that is not ours is considered the worst attitude. In a state like that where our kid uses our money secretly for the sake of gambling, is the scenario if the kid won instead of big money a proper argument? If that's the case then we should just tolerate everything since after all, there's a chance of winning big even. Sounds stupid right?

Regardless of the reason, stealing is stealing. The kid in that story highly needs proper and serious guidance.
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February 17, 2024, 02:19:25 AM
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I don’t think the mother is mad about her son gambling, just the way he got the money. Stealing is a crime and if unchecked he could develop a habit for it and steal from someone who is not as sentimental and would very well call the cops. I think the mother is trying to prevent such an occurrence from happening in the future, the OP doesn’t say the age of the boy, I can only assume he’s a teenager. The family should have a sit down with the boy and let him know the consequences of his actions.
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February 17, 2024, 12:07:01 PM
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I don’t think the mother is mad about her son gambling, just the way he got the money. Stealing is a crime and if unchecked he could develop a habit for it and steal from someone who is not as sentimental and would very well call the cops. I think the mother is trying to prevent such an occurrence from happening in the future, the OP doesn’t say the age of the boy, I can only assume he’s a teenager. The family should have a sit down with the boy and let him know the consequences of his actions.
A mother will be angry when she discovers her son stole her money. Stealing is a crime, but a child must be given understanding so that he can understand that stealing is a bad act and he can be punished, and the worst is that he can go to prison. With the understanding given by his mother, father and other family members, the child will understand and will not repeat his actions. He will not steal money from his mother or other people because he already knows that stealing is bad and can be caught by the police. He doesn't want to experience that and will stay away from it. A mother will prevent this from happening again and always look after her children well.

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February 17, 2024, 12:16:35 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.
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February 17, 2024, 12:26:05 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.
Undoubtedly a good thing said because theft in any case is theft and a serious crime. Whoever commits the crime must be treated as a punishable offence. Whoever steals money from my son or daughter's pocket and spends it in immoral activities must be brought under punishable punishment. If these boys and girls are left unpunished, they will not consider committing more serious crimes in the future. If such criminal activities are organized in the family and if the family members do not see these incidents and don't say anything or solve it, then surely big crimes will be organized in that family in the future.

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February 17, 2024, 12:39:43 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.

True, however, theft is a crime or criminal act that should not be allowed because if it is allowed then over time they will get bolder and are very likely to eventually commit bigger acts or mean stealing something bigger which of course has serious repercussions, it is true that no matter who it is whether they are your child or anyone else still punishing and disciplining them is a good idea to make them deterrent. Because the problem is that this jeopardizes their own future when they grow up in the sense that they are very likely to become a thief or a more aggressive criminal, and on the other hand, what if at that time they win using the stolen money? I think I will believe in the idea that the parents will not be angry or even happy because there is an increase in money that occurs as a result of the victory achieved by their children, but it depends on the parents too.

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February 17, 2024, 12:41:22 PM
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I don’t think the mother is mad about her son gambling, just the way he got the money. Stealing is a crime and if unchecked he could develop a habit for it and steal from someone who is not as sentimental and would very well call the cops. I think the mother is trying to prevent such an occurrence from happening in the future, the OP doesn’t say the age of the boy, I can only assume he’s a teenager. The family should have a sit down with the boy and let him know the consequences of his actions.
A mother will be angry when she discovers her son stole her money. Stealing is a crime, but a child must be given understanding so that he can understand that stealing is a bad act and he can be punished, and the worst is that he can go to prison. With the understanding given by his mother, father and other family members, the child will understand and will not repeat his actions. He will not steal money from his mother or other people because he already knows that stealing is bad and can be caught by the police. He doesn't want to experience that and will stay away from it. A mother will prevent this from happening again and always look after her children well.
A child's mistake might cause an explosion of emotions, but meaningful communication can help. Instead of scaring kids with prison stories, establish principles. They must realize the weight of their deeds, not merely the repercussions. Kids are wiser than we think. They understand complicated concepts like good and wrong, cause and effect. It requires patience, not panic. A family's role? Not just oversight, but guidance. This is about creating an environment where mistakes are learning opportunities, not life sentences

Discuss prevention. It's about trust and communication, not just locking away stuff. Create an environment where people can talk about anything and things will change. Building a foundation so solid that treachery is scarier than police threats

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February 17, 2024, 12:44:09 PM
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Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.
Stealing is a very bad habit but most of the time children become bad because of bad discipline of their parents. If a parent does not discipline his children properly then that child can never be good. Just as a child grows up with good education because of parents.  Similarly, if you don't discipline from a young age, your child will go down a bad path. Parents should keep their children away from gambling. They should tell them about the bad aspects of gambling, so they will stay away from gambling.

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Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.
Stealing is a very bad habit but most of the time children become bad because of bad discipline of their parents. If a parent does not discipline his children properly then that child can never be good. Just as a child grows up with good education because of parents.  Similarly, if you don't discipline from a young age, your child will go down a bad path. Parents should keep their children away from gambling. They should tell them about the bad aspects of gambling, so they will stay away from gambling.
If I am honest I am tired of parents being blamed for everything that happens when their kids misbehave, there are many parents that do everything they can and the kids do not cooperate at all and keep doing bad things, so the parents have no responsibility whatsoever in those cases if you ask me, parents can only guide their children, but if the kids decide to take a bunch of bad decisions on their own, that is on them, and we must hold them accountable for it.

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February 18, 2024, 06:25:15 AM
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A child's mistake might cause an explosion of emotions, but meaningful communication can help. Instead of scaring kids with prison stories, establish principles. They must realize the weight of their deeds, not merely the repercussions. Kids are wiser than we think. They understand complicated concepts like good and wrong, cause and effect. It requires patience, not panic. A family's role? Not just oversight, but guidance. This is about creating an environment where mistakes are learning opportunities, not life sentences

Discuss prevention. It's about trust and communication, not just locking away stuff. Create an environment where people can talk about anything and things will change. Building a foundation so solid that treachery is scarier than police threats
The family's role is to prepare children to develop well and not do things that could cause bad things to emerge. We need to supervise them and accompany them on their journey towards maturity so that they can develop well and adapt to the circumstances. If they are wrong, we can explain what went wrong and give appropriate punishment so that they understand what went wrong and can correct it and not repeat it. Educating children today is not easy because their lives are more comfortable than when we were children.

That's why as parents, we need to discuss or chat with them as often as possible so that we know how their world is developing and can adapt our guidance and upbringing to them. We cannot use the same methods we received before because everything has changed. If children can open up to their parents, it will make it easier for parents to enter their world and understand what they need to do if their children do something wrong or bad so that parents can provide understanding to their children.

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February 18, 2024, 06:54:04 AM
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In that case I would have to have a very serious conversation with my son and I would impose a punishment. I could see it as a youthful mistake like many of us had in the past but he has to suffer the consequences of his actions.

If I am honest I am tired of parents being blamed for everything that happens when their kids misbehave, there are many parents that do everything they can and the kids do not cooperate at all and keep doing bad things, so the parents have no responsibility whatsoever in those cases if you ask me, parents can only guide their children, but if the kids decide to take a bunch of bad decisions on their own, that is on them, and we must hold them accountable for it.

But you say that as if the parents had nothing to do with the child's behaviour. Granted that there is some variability, since two equally educated siblings can have different behaviours, while parents may not be entirely to blame for a child's bad behaviour, they can be blamed for the lack of action to correct such behaviour.

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A child's mistake might cause an explosion of emotions, but meaningful communication can help. Instead of scaring kids with prison stories, establish principles. They must realize the weight of their deeds, not merely the repercussions. Kids are wiser than we think. They understand complicated concepts like good and wrong, cause and effect. It requires patience, not panic. A family's role? Not just oversight, but guidance. This is about creating an environment where mistakes are learning opportunities, not life sentences

Discuss prevention. It's about trust and communication, not just locking away stuff. Create an environment where people can talk about anything and things will change. Building a foundation so solid that treachery is scarier than police threats
The family's role is to prepare children to develop well and not do things that could cause bad things to emerge. We need to supervise them and accompany them on their journey towards maturity so that they can develop well and adapt to the circumstances. If they are wrong, we can explain what went wrong and give appropriate punishment so that they understand what went wrong and can correct it and not repeat it. Educating children today is not easy because their lives are more comfortable than when we were children.

That's why as parents, we need to discuss or chat with them as often as possible so that we know how their world is developing and can adapt our guidance and upbringing to them. We cannot use the same methods we received before because everything has changed. If children can open up to their parents, it will make it easier for parents to enter their world and understand what they need to do if their children do something wrong or bad so that parents can provide understanding to their children.
But we know that not all would really be having that happy ending because even if you are a good and responsible parent but it doesnt assure that your kids wont really be that exposed
into those things on which this is something that could affect out their overall growth and might lead up into lose path even if you have done it well. Its something that cant be avoided specially now that
exposure into those things would really be that easy. We cant be able to see or check them on whole day specially if we are also a busy person, then there's instances about missing those things.
This is why if ever those kids have done something which is bad then as a parent then we do normally scold them and make those kind of explanations on why it is bad. We arent that perfect
and this is why as much as possible then you would really be doing those basic stuffs at least as part of parenting.
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February 18, 2024, 07:23:20 AM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

If the son had won a jackpot with the money, maybe he would have shared the winning with his mom and she would have forgotten what the son did. However, let's call a spade a spade. The son acted wrongly by taking what wasn't his and he should pay for it. When you take money from someone else's account without the person's permission it is called stealing and definitely the person would be mad with you no matter the relationship.

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February 18, 2024, 12:15:44 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
A mom won't be able to do much in this kind of situation, but more of a dads job. Children these days no longer have fear for their mom to the extent that they don't respect them. But still they have more love for their mother.
The best thing I guess the mom can do is to call for help and ask other people to discipline the child and correct him if his gambling activities. A child who at this stage of life if already stealing to gamble will probably turn out to be more worse I'm the future. Train a child the way he should grow. If he is to be stopped now he probably won't have such mindset when he grows up.

I wonder what he was thinking or maybe he was actually intermediated by friends or peer groups to fund money and place on a game that would win. As parents, you should be aware of the kind of friends your child keeps or hang around with.

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February 18, 2024, 12:37:31 PM
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Using money that is not ours is considered the worst attitude. In a state like that where our kid uses our money secretly for the sake of gambling, is the scenario if the kid won instead of big money a proper argument? If that's the case then we should just tolerate everything since after all, there's a chance of winning big even. Sounds stupid right?

Regardless of the reason, stealing is stealing. The kid in that story highly needs proper and serious guidance.

I like that statement as there's no excuse about stealing, though there's a big chance that if the bet wins and the son make money out from that stolen money and share it with her mom for sure it will be a different story, though in the sense of stealing it's not good as the kid will grow thinking that as long as they are not being caught they can easily stole money from their parents and continue betting.

We need to guide our kids as early as now, they have to realize that if they continue doing things like this it will developed bad habits and a possibility that they will commit crimes that they will regret along the way.

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February 18, 2024, 03:33:31 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
A mom won't be able to do much in this kind of situation, but more of a dads job. Children these days no longer have fear for their mom to the extent that they don't respect them. But still they have more love for their mother.
The best thing I guess the mom can do is to call for help and ask other people to discipline the child and correct him if his gambling activities. A child who at this stage of life if already stealing to gamble will probably turn out to be more worse I'm the future. Train a child the way he should grow. If he is to be stopped now he probably won't have such mindset when he grows up.

I wonder what he was thinking or maybe he was actually intermediated by friends or peer groups to fund money and place on a game that would win. As parents, you should be aware of the kind of friends your child keeps or hang around with.
The idea that youngsters appreciate mothers less than fathers is archaic and wrong. Communication and discipline in the home are the issue, not gender roles. Respect and discipline should come from both parents.

Suggestions that mothers should seek outside help with child discipline decrease their power. I prefer a hands-on approach. Parents must comprehend the child's behavior's causes, such as peer pressure or lack of guidance. Addressing fundamental issues rather than symptoms (gambling) can lead to more durable remedies.

Assigning emphasis to knowing your child's peers is correct. One parent doesnt bear this obligation alone. Its collaborative. Open, honest interactions at home are important to early intervention.

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February 18, 2024, 04:26:22 PM
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I don’t think the mother is mad about her son gambling, just the way he got the money. Stealing is a crime and if unchecked he could develop a habit for it and steal from someone who is not as sentimental and would very well call the cops. I think the mother is trying to prevent such an occurrence from happening in the future, the OP doesn’t say the age of the boy, I can only assume he’s a teenager. The family should have a sit down with the boy and let him know the consequences of his actions.
It seems that is what is on my mind that he really needs to call the police to advise his child too and undergo a small punishment to have a deterrent effect, because basically a bad habit that is often carried out will have a bad impact in the future, the child could have dealings with other people. someone he really didn't know then stole from his house while at home the person had a gun and saw his child steal and then shoot him in the leg. Maybe it would be worse if he continued to imagine the bad impact in the future.

So the mother's attitude is not wrong, after all, whatever the circumstances, never try to gamble with the proceeds of debt and secondly the proceeds of stealing, both of which are not suitable for gambling because there will definitely be bad consequences in the future, it is better to gamble with money that is ready. To get rid of it is not to lose money by borrowing and stealing, if you don't have money it's better to look for another hobby that doesn't require money, but if you have money there's no problem gambling, sometimes people push themselves too hard to keep gambling no matter where the money comes from.

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February 18, 2024, 06:54:08 PM
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It is a human nature to let go of a simple error if the result outweighs the error a million times.  Obviously, the reason why the mother gets angry is because the son stole the money and lost it to gambling.  In your given question, since the kid can give back the stolen money with interest,  I am sure even stranger will forgive the kid and will receive the money with a smile.  Probably that stranger can even hug the kid that gives back the money with huge interest.  What more if you are the mother, for sure the kid will probably give you the whole winning amount.  So is there a reason to get angry in such a situation that you asked?
It depends on the parent's perspective. Perhaps you believe that stealing money is a forgivable offense, or you are the type of parent who is quick to forgive their child for such a mistake.

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The thing is the kid gives back the money he stole with an interest.  The thing here is returning the money.  As a parent, a simple theft can be forgiven, and forgiving does not condone the action but rather giving the kids another chance, plus the fact that the kid returned the money means he knows his mistakes and wants to correct them by returning the money.
I don't know if you have something and returns back is something to be called business so, if you are more interested of the income the young boy returned a stolen money with, it absolutely sounds like his theft act is encouraging and you hail's him for the profitable business being well done.
There is no level of corruptible manners that should be tolerated from kids for too much tolerance and pampering with the kids when they are on the wrong deeds is courageous to do worse in advance so, even if they would be forgiven it shouldn't make them (kids) feels the offense they committed was a minor.

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However, it is not good to easily forgive a child for stealing money at a young age because it may lead them to believe that it is acceptable to do it again in the future, as they can easily avoid facing the consequences.

So what do you want to do with the kid? jail them or beat them up because they stole a small amount of your money? I think that is a harsh thing to do as a parent.  Reminding/scolding them that stealing is not a good act is enough.  Besides, if you beat up your kid as a parent, you will be charged with child abuse, and that makes the scenario worse.

There is no amount being too small nor big to discipline a child caught on the act of stealing. Belittling the value of theft they child indulgences into is proportional to asking the child to commit a bigger before being charged for offense of criminality.
I agree that at times, sitting a child down and talk to them about their wrong deeds is a good idea because most children grows hard and mean to whatever then wanted due to how hash they were treated at their young age as a course of disciplines but that doesn't mean you would spare the rod else the child is spoiled.

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February 20, 2024, 05:19:23 AM
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Honestly I wouldn't know. I am not even joking, this is the type of thing that you can't exactly plan beforehand. I can't just say "I would do this and this and this if it happened", because at that point you really need more context.

Like for example was he a great kid beforehand and just made one mistake? Then that's different, but was he a bad kid who always get into trouble and then ended up doing this as well? That's different as well. Was he a great student and got all great grades but also have an issue like these? Or was he also a terrible student as well? These all change as well and should be important on the result. I basically would have no idea, not right now at least and it would have to be considered when it happens and how I feel at that moment.

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