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February 04, 2024, 09:59:11 PM
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Well, in a logical viewpoint, rich people has a higher tendency of winning than average to poor individuals. Why? bigger your bankroll means more chances of betting and more chances of winning. With poor gamblers or ones who don't have that much they will only be able to bet a few times depending on their winning percentage. This is not to limit things, many people who are financially deprived  managed to win and turn things towards their lives. We are not playing against other players tho' but rather with your chances of winning and bankroll management in order to be profitable in the long run. Poor gamblers or gamblers having nothing much if financial freedom would be normally has higher nervousness but that doesn't mean that they are afraid to risk 'coz if that's the case they won't be even in this activity we re having in the first place.

And with random blaming or transferring of frustrations to objects or surroundings, then that won't be valid except for the fat that it could be one's reason to cope up with negative emotions. It is also a safeguarding technique used by them to not hurt their ego that they have lost that much from this industry.

The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.

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February 05, 2024, 10:38:30 AM
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Well, in a logical viewpoint, rich people has a higher tendency of winning than average to poor individuals. Why? bigger your bankroll means more chances of betting and more chances of winning. With poor gamblers or ones who don't have that much they will only be able to bet a few times depending on their winning percentage. This is not to limit things, many people who are financially deprived  managed to win and turn things towards their lives. We are not playing against other players tho' but rather with your chances of winning and bankroll management in order to be profitable in the long run. Poor gamblers or gamblers having nothing much if financial freedom would be normally has higher nervousness but that doesn't mean that they are afraid to risk 'coz if that's the case they won't be even in this activity we re having in the first place.

And with random blaming or transferring of frustrations to objects or surroundings, then that won't be valid except for the fat that it could be one's reason to cope up with negative emotions. It is also a safeguarding technique used by them to not hurt their ego that they have lost that much from this industry.

The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.
Thats the advantage on having a bigger bankroll on which you could really be able not to make yourself having those kind of adjustments on your gambling activity and having that
possible recovery if ever you would turn out to be lucky but of course it wouldnt really be still that a guarantee because we know that once things turns out to be messy or simply you arent that
lucky enough then chances on wrecking yourself hard would really be there. Blaming? Its a common human being behavior on which they are really that having that kind of behavior on the time
that you would really be suffering extreme loss. There are ones who could be able to control out but there are ones who dont be able to do so.
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February 05, 2024, 10:49:55 AM
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A lot of people have been clamoring about how gambling has ruined their life but same gambling has set some people up for life, just like every other form of investment there must always be a profit or a loss.  And life is so balanced that what works for Mr A might not be the same that works for Mr B. Likewise in gambling,  while some are crying about their loss they are some who are smiling and celebrating their win.
 Gambling has been seen as a very dangerous thing base on some people's point of view here in the forum whereas in reality it has given some people the capital to start what ever business they want to do. My point in this post is that we shouldn’t just paint gambling all black because some people have fail to stick to the discipline of gambling.
 I believe that before one make a decision in life, they should've already weighed the consequences of making the right or wrong choice, then put their fate on luck coupled with their little knowledge concerning what they're about to decide on, so why complain and play the blame game when things go wrong? "Share your thought on how gambling has come through for you if you got any".

Before even involving yourself in gambling, one should already know what he's getting himself into, a gambler should be fully aware of that gambling isn't really guaranteed investment, winning isn't always guaranteed as you can loose everything you have trying to chase profits or even your losses. I mean every gambler knows this, so saying gambling destroyed your life is something I'll never accept.
If there's anything that destroyed your life in gambling, then it's nothing more but your greed and desperation, because if you gamble responsibly without having the mindset or seeing gambling as a do or die, then there's no way gambling can destroy your life. I mean you're not the only gambler who experiences losses in gambling, every gambler does but responsible gamblers knows when to call it a quite and when to continue gambling and that's what makes you immune to gambling hazzard.
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February 05, 2024, 10:57:28 AM
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I think this is similar to saying "this gamepad doesn't work" after losing 1 v 1 video game. People generally love to blame other when they lose in gambling. I personally dislike people blaming others about their gambling losses. Some people even go further and say "you sit there, that's only reason I lost" which is completely meaningless. Gamblers should have strong mentality to keep on gambling in my opinion. We should all stay sane.
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February 05, 2024, 11:06:15 AM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.

This is not always true although having enough bankroll will help you to play longer since you have extra money to bet once losing streak hits you hard. However this is a double edge sword since the more your bankroll is the more money you can possibly lose so it’s better not to rely much on your bankroll size since casino counters it with maximum bet and maximum so it will be harder for you to recover your losses once your down since you have max bet.

Casino will just slowly kill you with their house edge especially if you are already down with huge percentage of your bankroll. It’s important to just play what you can afford to lose.
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February 05, 2024, 11:12:05 AM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.

Is backup money to continue gambling not the same as revenge gambling? In my opinion, they are the same thing. When people desperately need to recoup their loss by engaging in further gambling is revenge gambling. From experience, you will run into a crisis because you would be gambling with the wrong state of mind. Funny enough, revenge gambling doesn`t guarantee you winning rather you will make the bookies richer because the cry of a gambler is the smile of a bookie.

The implication of this is that you will end up losing more than expected. For instance, If I fund my online bet account with $500 with the mind of only playing with that amount and lose the money, will it be wise to fund again or take a pause? Experience tells us that taking a pause is better. Remember he who fights and runs, lives to fight another day. If you die today there is no fight tomorrow and gambling continues so there is no need for backup money rather there should be a limit to what we can gamble and once exhausted we are done for the day. A gambler shouldn`t be quick to place additional bets on other events in quick succession hoping to make up for the initial loss. Always accept your loss.

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February 05, 2024, 11:20:05 AM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.

This is not always true although having enough bankroll will help you to play longer since you have extra money to bet once losing streak hits you hard. However this is a double edge sword since the more your bankroll is the more money you can possibly lose so it’s better not to rely much on your bankroll size since casino counters it with maximum bet and maximum so it will be harder for you to recover your losses once your down since you have max bet.

Casino will just slowly kill you with their house edge especially if you are already down with huge percentage of your bankroll. It’s important to just play what you can afford to lose.
Yes. Just because rich people have more money to play with and can play for longer periods of time, it doesn't guarantee that they will win. In fact, the more they play, the more money they can lose. Winning isn't about having a lot of funds, it's more about having self-control.

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February 05, 2024, 11:27:51 AM
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I think this is similar to saying "this gamepad doesn't work" after losing 1 v 1 video game. People generally love to blame other when they lose in gambling. I personally dislike people blaming others about their gambling losses. Some people even go further and say "you sit there, that's only reason I lost" which is completely meaningless. Gamblers should have strong mentality to keep on gambling in my opinion. We should all stay sane.
The first instinct whenever an individual loses a game or is frustrated with something else. Point those fingers to someone and let the blame game begin. The sad part is when you are playing as a team and one player points his finger at his teammate, that will probably hurt.
I think that's one of the bad traits that we inherit from our parents or those we grow up with or it could be inside us but just needs to be activated.

Regarding the blame game in gambling, it happens a lot of times. Visit the chatbox of an online gambling site and you will see a lot of rants from gamblers.
But, I do feel them and that is why I just let them do it. If it could somehow help them release all the rage that they are keeping then so be it. Besides, I don't think an admin or a moderator will stop them unless they are using foul words which leads to the account being muted.
I do understand the frustration because many times that it happened to me too, an example would be a long losing streak and your wallet almost being depleted without any RTP happening. Those kinds of things happening to a gambler leads to frustration and they will think the system is rigged or they cheat. Well, it is rigged and we have to accept that the first time we lay our hands on an online gambling site.  

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February 05, 2024, 11:30:50 AM
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I would like to support OP. I am also tired when people complain and blame everyone when they lose in gambling. Especially I dont like when people say that casino make something special to make them lose. That casino on purpose do manipulations to get those couple of dollars that gambler has just bet. People must learn how to cope with their emotions.

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February 05, 2024, 11:36:30 AM
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My point in this post is that we shouldn’t just paint gambling all black because some people have fail to stick to the discipline of gambling.
I agree with you but the sad thing is, that people find blaming their irresponsibility on something else(gambling) much easier, it makes them feel better and at the same time makes them feel like they are victims. this is why gambling awareness is extremely important, not only does it educate people on how to gamble responsibly it also teaches them to take responsibility for their gambling habits and not just blame every stupid decision they make while gambling to gambling.

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February 05, 2024, 11:50:32 AM
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 And life is so balanced that what works for Mr A might not be the same that works for Mr B. Likewise in gambling,  while some are crying about their loss they are some who are smiling and celebrating their win.

Not just from person to another one, even with the same person he could be complaining today for the losses, happy and celebrating the second day he wins. It’s the human nature not just in gambling but everything he does, so most of people feel better they prefer to blame anything else beside them and take out their responsibility when someone negative happens due to their actions and activities.
Personally, I have done that multiple times when I lose while playing slots games, I start saying that I haven’t win anything from this slot so that must be it problem or the casino, knowing deep inside it’s just me who is unlucky and that happens to everyone.

While other gamblers tend to even to worse than just complaining or blaming, some of them once they lose on a real casino by destroying that slot machine or table, fight with the dealer or other gamblers. We have also seen stories here where some people lie about their losses in gambling and blame it as someone stole the funds.

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February 05, 2024, 11:58:31 AM
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My point in this post is that we shouldn’t just paint gambling all black because some people have fail to stick to the discipline of gambling.
I agree with you but the sad thing is, that people find blaming their irresponsibility on something else(gambling) much easier, it makes them feel better and at the same time makes them feel like they are victims. this is why gambling awareness is extremely important, not only does it educate people on how to gamble responsibly it also teaches them to take responsibility for their gambling habits and not just blame every stupid decision they make while gambling to gambling.

That's human nature especially if they are immature enough to determine something that its really their fault on why they experiencing such unfortunate lose on the casino. They should stop blaming those platforms since in first place they are the one came there and try to test out their luck. Also they really need to be mature enough to know the consequences of the action they do so that they would know what need to change on their attitude and so they can adjust on something important for a gambler to do. We commit mistakes in gambling and these people should adjust and stop blaming those platforms on the wrong decisions they do.

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February 05, 2024, 12:07:13 PM
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I would like to support OP. I am also tired when people complain and blame everyone when they lose in gambling. Especially I dont like when people say that casino make something special to make them lose. That casino on purpose do manipulations to get those couple of dollars that gambler has just bet. People must learn how to cope with their emotions.

In everything in life there are gains and losses. So the sooner you understand this and bet only what is necessary and in moderation, your life and your emotions will be very different.

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February 05, 2024, 12:14:52 PM
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I would like to support OP. I am also tired when people complain and blame everyone when they lose in gambling. Especially I dont like when people say that casino make something special to make them lose. That casino on purpose do manipulations to get those couple of dollars that gambler has just bet. People must learn how to cope with their emotions.

In everything in life there are gains and losses. So the sooner you understand this and bet only what is necessary and in moderation, your life and your emotions will be very different.
The process requires separate understanding and awareness from the gambler himself. However, when you encounter difficult conditions such as consecutive losses, the choice is to leave and stop and continue at another opportunity. or continue to pursue victory.
People who are aware will probably stop and close the game. but when you play, situations sometimes make our emotions uncontrollable. and continuing the game is sometimes the wrong choice but we still choose it.

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February 05, 2024, 12:20:46 PM
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 And life is so balanced that what works for Mr A might not be the same that works for Mr B. Likewise in gambling,  while some are crying about their loss they are some who are smiling and celebrating their win.

Not just from person to another one, even with the same person he could be complaining today for the losses, happy and celebrating the second day he wins. It’s the human nature not just in gambling but everything he does, so most of people feel better they prefer to blame anything else beside them and take out their responsibility when someone negative happens due to their actions and activities.
Personally, I have done that multiple times when I lose while playing slots games, I start saying that I haven’t win anything from this slot so that must be it problem or the casino, knowing deep inside it’s just me who is unlucky and that happens to everyone.

While other gamblers tend to even to worse than just complaining or blaming, some of them once they lose on a real casino by destroying that slot machine or table, fight with the dealer or other gamblers. We have also seen stories here where some people lie about their losses in gambling and blame it as someone stole the funds.
I've blamed the game or casino when things go wrong too. Blaming others is easier than accepting that luck doesnt always cooperate. Gambling is just one example of this human propensity that appears in practically every facet of life. Deflecting blame is our initial reaction to failure. Its a human reaction, but not ideal

I know there's a fine line between pleasant gambling and bad behavior due to frustration. Like you, I've heard horrific loss stories. Venting or being sad over a loss is different from doing crimes. Gambling should always be for fun, never harmful

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February 05, 2024, 12:22:55 PM
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Those are immature behaviour of people/gamblers who doesn't want to attest their responsibilities when gambling. These are same people who always regrets their moves and blaming others is their defense mechanism to make them feel good after gambling. This also happens when emotions controls your moves and decisions. In simple terms, these are behaviour of problematic gambler.

They can blame gambling all they want but it is not gambling fault if they want to gamble in the first place.These persons are not responsible as they only realize when they finish their session and see they have lost money then they say it is the casino fault because they exist and I could not resist the temptation.If this person can't control himself then it is his fault which generates all the bad things that happen after that.

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February 05, 2024, 01:17:29 PM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.
Sometimes it's not even about having more back up money but a lot has to be done with strategy, when you have got a very good strategy and risk management even with your little bankroll, you still be able to stay long enough in the game but without a good risk management strategy, it's very obvious you will not last long gambling before you go bankrupt.

The Rich gambler usually have stake but a poor gambler usually low or stake with the minimum amount allowed at a time so the difference is usually with the amount they are able to stake at a time, the rich may have a very big bank roll and divides it into several portions and stake accordingly but a poor gambler with no strategy may put all his bankroll at once so he will be able to equate with the rich guy and when they loose  he's kicked out while the rich still continues because he's got a strategy with which he continues to stay in the game as against that of the poor guy without a strategy but if the poor guy divides his little bankroll in to several portions then he could stay as long as the rich guy too.

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February 05, 2024, 03:28:02 PM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.
Sometimes it's not even about having more back up money but a lot has to be done with strategy, when you have got a very good strategy and risk management even with your little bankroll, you still be able to stay long enough in the game but without a good risk management strategy, it's very obvious you will not last long gambling before you go bankrupt.

The Rich gambler usually have stake but a poor gambler usually low or stake with the minimum amount allowed at a time so the difference is usually with the amount they are able to stake at a time, the rich may have a very big bank roll and divides it into several portions and stake accordingly but a poor gambler with no strategy may put all his bankroll at once so he will be able to equate with the rich guy and when they loose  he's kicked out while the rich still continues because he's got a strategy with which he continues to stay in the game as against that of the poor guy without a strategy but if the poor guy divides his little bankroll in to several portions then he could stay as long as the rich guy too.
I am wondering why Westinhome deleted his comment, or was that the work of a mod, I don't think so..

But back to the discussion, what you said is right, though very different from what I understand Westinhome to be saying, Westinhome is actually talking about the ability for gamblers to test a game in their fun mode, which is often for free, before moving to play the same game in their normal play mode which requires real money, he is saying that doing this will help a gambler learn much about a game and how to win it before the gambler commits real money into the game.

I was going to partially agree with this, on the grounds that this feature is only available on slot and in-house games, and it is also very limited to some casinos or a few casinos rather, and the ultimate reason again, I feel this strategy does not add any value to a gambler is because, from my personal experience, playing a slot game in fun mode, is completely different from playing same game in their normal paid mode, a game one easily wins in fun mode, can be so difficult for the same player to win same game in their paid mode, because fun mode and paid mode of slot and in-house games are programmed differently.

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February 05, 2024, 04:27:25 PM
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The possibility of the rich person to make the big winning because of their back up money for the further game.The gamblers who want to make huge money should hold the money for the backup even after the loss.Many poor gamblers will lose the hope and money in the gambling site.So the poor gamblers don’t have any backup money for the further game.This was biggest drawback for the poor gamblers,even after earning good strategies with the loss.The poor gamblers won’t have money to make the continuous winning.So the gamblers who have huge money will create more money from the same gambling site.
Sometimes it's not even about having more back up money but a lot has to be done with strategy, when you have got a very good strategy and risk management even with your little bankroll, you still be able to stay long enough in the game but without a good risk management strategy, it's very obvious you will not last long gambling before you go bankrupt.

The Rich gambler usually have stake but a poor gambler usually low or stake with the minimum amount allowed at a time so the difference is usually with the amount they are able to stake at a time, the rich may have a very big bank roll and divides it into several portions and stake accordingly but a poor gambler with no strategy may put all his bankroll at once so he will be able to equate with the rich guy and when they loose  he's kicked out while the rich still continues because he's got a strategy with which he continues to stay in the game as against that of the poor guy without a strategy but if the poor guy divides his little bankroll in to several portions then he could stay as long as the rich guy too.
Rich gamblers have perfected their techniques. Spread their bets, consider long-term. The catch: that's a necessity, not a luxury. Rich or poor, anyone can use it. Your point on bankroll portioning? Right on. Yes, that is the foundation of risk management. It doesn't matter how big your cash is. How you approach it matters. Every gambler, regardless of bankroll, requires a technique to handle losses without hitting rock bottom

Bankroll isn't the difference. Mindset matters. Poor gamblers can outlive affluent ones with the appropriate tactics. Not only hopeful stakes, but educated judgments. Remember, healthy gambling is about enjoying the game, not risking everything on one roll. That keeps you in the game and may flip the tables

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February 05, 2024, 04:41:27 PM
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^ Even if the poor gambler does have backup money, it will not be as huge as the rich gambler. Eventually, it will dry up when luck runs out, especially with a strategy that hasn't been perfected. The only that is perfected here is the risk management to prolong the entertainment.

Can't stop themselves from blaming gambling because blaming themselves is more pathetic but eventually they will realize it after the regrets.

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