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March 03, 2024, 12:04:34 PM |
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There are 18 votes for forgiving her/him and only 1 vote for divorcing... who is the one not happy with his/her wife or husband? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) This votes should casted in a certain context and generalising is hard, but the obvious answer in general is that, if you love your partner, you have to be with him/her no matter what happens (almost). Moreover, in the example there is no real loss because the result means getting back to the starting point; it would be more serious if he/she lost an important amount of savings that you need to pay your bills or mortgage. To me, instead of divorcing, the moral would be: "I hope you have learned from this experience".
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pinggoki
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March 03, 2024, 12:25:26 PM |
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If you let your wife/partner or significant other to go to that point then it's probably your fault too that they've gone to that point, you tolerated the gambling habit because the turn out is favorable and your partner showers you with riches when they get a win, I think that in that case, divorce is probably the only choice or if it's not legal, annulment or separation because you both are only digging your own graves the longer you stay together. Gambling is something that should be talked about when you're in a relationship because gambling is a life destroyer if left unchecked. It's really specific situation OP, is there a truth in that or it's all hypothetical?
Regards to the choice of forgiving that person, I believe that it depends on the severity of the case, if you really can't get back on your feet with that lose that your partner did then it's probably going to take someone a long time to forgive them and I believe that no matter how severe the case is, if gambling and money problems is constantly getting in your marriage or relationship then divorce or separation should be the only option, I think in this choices that's the most logical, forgiveness will come someday, let yourself get out of that quicksand that you call a relationship.
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March 03, 2024, 12:34:28 PM |
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I know how tempting gambling can be but if there other people's responsibility on your head i don't see the reason wht you should gamble with the money that is for you and your wife. If I was the wife to I want take it likely with my husband. Because the chances are 50/50 so why use the money to take such risk. This economy is a terrible one so taking our money to gamble i won't feel happy at all. If it is money to gamble I prefer to gamble with my own money. Am not even use to gambling with other people's money. So its either with my money or nothing. Anyone that gamble with other people's money anything that happen. The person either he or she will carry there own cross. I don't like any form of pressure. I do my thing my own way.
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March 03, 2024, 12:49:00 PM |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
The question is, who is going to gamble like that? I don't think I have ever seen such a case where a gambler risks all his money, including savings. This is a stupid act. I was a regular gambler. I lost plenty of cash before by gambling. But, I did not exceed the limit. Sometimes, I gambled more than I could afford to lose. But I haven't bet any money that may ruin my life. If some e's partner is going to play with that money, they already know that their partner is addicted. They should take a step away before something happens like this. I don't think breaking up the relationship will fix everything. They have to sit together and find out what to do next.
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March 03, 2024, 01:02:50 PM |
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Firstly, painful. A nightmare, right? I'd be furious if my spouse gambled with our future and left the coffers empty. Fun till its not. My response? Call for a serious, no-holds-barred chat. Trust, right? The savings and trust were gambled away. Uncool. Setting boundaries and even seeking expert help are needed. Today its gambling; tomorrow, who knows?
What if I experienced this? Thankfully not. But I've witnessed it. A hard ride. Key? Communicate and possibly open a savings account. Right? Always have a backup.
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March 03, 2024, 01:12:57 PM |
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There are 18 votes for forgiving her/him and only 1 vote for divorcing... who is the one not happy with his/her wife or husband? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) This votes should casted in a certain context and generalising is hard, but the obvious answer in general is that, if you love your partner, you have to be with him/her no matter what happens (almost). Moreover, in the example there is no real loss because the result means getting back to the starting point; it would be more serious if he/she lost an important amount of savings that you need to pay your bills or mortgage. To me, instead of divorcing, the moral would be: "I hope you have learned from this experience". If things turns out to be his/her first time mistake about gambling then of course majority will really be choosing on forgiving. We arent that too rushed on having that divorced decision right away on the time that you would really be experiencing those situations or stuffs. We do know that we are just humans and we are prone to error and mistakes but on the time that you have caught your partner on having those involvement and forgiven already but it do keeps on repeating on the same thing all over again and again. Then i would say that this would the time that you would really be considering on having a divorce but of course everything would really be just that depending on you on which you would really be the ones who do make out such decision. There are really those people who are really that loves to make out some conclusions and doesnt forgive but well all of our patience does have an edge on which on the time that you cant take it anymore then it would be that just good on having that kind of decision on having a divorce. This is why it would be best that you should really be trying out to balance in between based up on the condition or situation. It is really just that there are moments in life on which we do need to draw a line specially if it talks about financial basis with your family then its a common approach.
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March 03, 2024, 01:27:02 PM |
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There are 18 votes for forgiving her/him and only 1 vote for divorcing... who is the one not happy with his/her wife or husband? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, i thought there would be more people who would select the other option but I think these are two extreme conditions. You should not go for divorce and also you should not forgive for losing everything in gambling. If you let go, then the husband may do the same anytime in future. The best way is to talk to the husband, better bring in the relatives from both sides and make him realize his mistake and take an oath and promise from him that he will not repeat the same mistake again and again. You can give him any other punishment but asking for divorce is something way too harsh. However, there would be wives who are not happy with their husbands and they will be using such incidents as asking for separation from their life partners. So it really depends upon case to case basis but only forgiving the husband is not the right solution to this problem.
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March 03, 2024, 02:47:26 PM |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Although the way you have been dealing with your husband is kind of awful, perhaps you should reconsider. You can't just file for divorce, after all, unless he hurts you or the situation becomes too much to bear. However, if you two can stand it, perhaps you should set aside some time for some honest conversation so that you can let him know how disappointed you are in him and how you are feeling. I believe you can easily forgive, but you cannot easily forget the things he has done to strain the relationship in the family. Given that it's a private matter, you two can have some counseling sessions and advise him that he would lose everything, including you, if he couldn't give up his gambling vices. Scaring our partner is a good way to let them know what's going on sometimes.
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March 03, 2024, 03:11:00 PM |
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The gambler is not a responsible gambler and that was why he used everything and lost them all. A responsible gambler with family must now how to gamble when it is necessary. As it said in other threads, a budget must be set out for a routine gambling and with that he wouldn't loss all at a time. He didn't plan well before he execute the gambling games. Then secondly, the wife was also happy when he was winning therefore she should not divorce him or quarrel him when he loss all because she didn't warned him to stopped gambling and knowing fully well that gambling is 50/50. So she should also bear the pain until things come back to normalcy.
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March 03, 2024, 03:58:49 PM |
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All of that really wouldn't be a problem if your wife/husband basically had a formula for maintaining a balance to prevent unwanted things or situations, but for the most part, they can't do it, it's easier said than done and that's a fact. It is gambling that ultimately is likely to make a person experience rapid changes in many aspects, whether it is in terms of the allocation of money at stake or also in terms of changes in behavior and traits.
Even if you treat gambling reasonably and gamble in moderation at first, there is always the possibility of increasing interest, many people who enter this phase of change end up betting something that is far from "reasonable" or "unreasonable", And of course this is a situation that can interfere with your relationship with your partner in a family where the main problem will be in terms of "money", losing balance in terms of money especially caused by really bad habits such as gambling of course it can trigger new problems such as divorce, so I think this is a problem that is very possible.
That's right, sooner or later the habit of gambling can change a person character due to a simple factor, namely addiction. I think that even though financial balance in a household can be fulfilled, it is not enough to make a family relationship run harmoniously. What I mean by this is that gambling apart from spending money also takes up time, which should be spent with husband/wife and children, this will not happen. So avoiding gambling activities if you are married is indeed better, in order to maintain a peaceful household integrity. We rarely see a wife experiencing an addiction to gambling, in most cases it is dominated by men. Even if there are maybe only a few women, but if these women have children then it is very fatal, because it will affect their interactions with children directly or indirectly. Therefore, I think it is better for husbands/wives who have a gambling habit to stop, because family values and goals can be lost due to this bad habit. Yes because there is no word "stagnant" in the desire to gamble, meaning that change will always be something that may occur and be experienced by some people, one of the reasons why this can happen is because gambling is an activity that can stimulate the human brain and mind which in the end we usually call it an addiction where someone is already at a very high level of curiosity so that they cannot ignore the slightest time not to gamble. In addition, the victory in gambling is "money", logically everyone needs money, especially if the financial situation in a family is in a "concerning" phase, obviously it can increase a person's interest to be more crazy in gambling because he wants to realize something he always hopes for. On the other hand, what you said is also true that the impact of gambling not only causes problems with money but also it can be very draining on your time that you should spend with your family. However, this is a fear that should have been thought of earlier, and if you are not married or single then yes, obviously a pretty good solution is to try as much as possible to stop gambling before you enter the household phase which basically you will have a big responsibility from the need factor that will not be tolerated. For the problem of women, yes, I think we all agree that it is rare for women to be involved in gambling, I think one of the reasons is in terms of socialization where women usually spend more time at home with homework activities, while men, you probably already know how they are, they hang out more outside the home with a friendship environment which means it is very possible for a man to find new things as an influence of environmental factors, whether positive or negative and maybe one of them is gambling. The bottom line is that if you are married and one of your partners is gambling then I think you should immediately think of ways to stop it, that's the best preventive measure.
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March 03, 2024, 07:43:19 PM |
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When you live as a couple and both work, you can consider that a certain percentage of each salary can be devoted to your hobbies (depending on your income).
For one it might be gambling, for the other going to the pub.
The percentage set at the outset must not be exceeded - it's like a marriage contract, it's a commitment. Breaking this contract by gambling away the couple's savings is very serious and is grounds fordivorce, just as infidelity is (when both people have sworn fidelity). Living as a couple is hard enough, so if on top of that, one of you is spending too much and jeopardizing the family budget, it's untenable.
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March 03, 2024, 07:50:29 PM |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Never happened to me. But this is one reason why a couple breaks up, finances. It's okay when any of you gambles but when coming to a point that both of your finances have been affected. Then, don't expect that relationship is going to last. Whether you like it or not, a foundation of having a great finance is what making marriage and relationships lasts. And when it's teared down by gambling, it's hard to put that back with those little pieces.
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March 03, 2024, 07:52:15 PM |
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When you live as a couple and both work, you can consider that a certain percentage of each salary can be devoted to your hobbies (depending on your income).
For one it might be gambling, for the other going to the pub.
The percentage set at the outset must not be exceeded - it's like a marriage contract, it's a commitment. Breaking this contract by gambling away the couple's savings is very serious and is grounds fordivorce, just as infidelity is (when both people have sworn fidelity). Living as a couple is hard enough, so if on top of that, one of you is spending too much and jeopardizing the family budget, it's untenable.
For me or both my wife on which we are not already putting up a budget when it comes to hobbies etc.. which it would really be adding up in overall expenses on which this is something that we rather putting up those amounts into something more useful or something that more worth specially for the family. Losing in gambling is inevitable and it is really just that right that you should really know on how to give out importance to priorities of course and if it turns out that both you and your wife are gamblers then expect that sooner or later you would really be having those unwise spendings or would really be that going excessive which might lead into those shortage on which this is something not that good anymore in overall for the family. You should both needing to make up decisions which for the better of all.
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March 03, 2024, 09:57:19 PM Last edit: March 04, 2024, 06:17:35 PM by AmoreJaz |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Never happened to me. But this is one reason why a couple breaks up, finances. It's okay when any of you gambles but when coming to a point that both of your finances have been affected. Then, don't expect that relationship is going to last. Whether you like it or not, a foundation of having a great finance is what making marriage and relationships lasts. And when it's teared down by gambling, it's hard to put that back with those little pieces. Maybe, if the situation of losing it all is only one time, I guess, you can still forgive your spouse. But of course, it would give you reason not to trust him or her, the next time around. Because if such situation will happen again and again, it means, your spouse is not respecting the agreement that you have. So yeah, a divorce is imminent if you see that your spouse is not changing to save your marriage. The gambler is not a responsible gambler and that was why he used everything and lost them all. A responsible gambler with family must now how to gamble when it is necessary. As it said in other threads, a budget must be set out for a routine gambling and with that he wouldn't loss all at a time. He didn't plan well before he execute the gambling games. Then secondly, the wife was also happy when he was winning therefore she should not divorce him or quarrel him when he loss all because she didn't warned him to stopped gambling and knowing fully well that gambling is 50/50. So she should also bear the pain until things come back to normalcy.
Unfortunately, a lot of gamblers are irresponsible with their actions especially when they are already losing a lot and they are still in front of their games. Hence, they are forgetting that they have other half to take care of. Losing it all should be a one time scenario, otherwise, don't expect that your spouse will be happy about it. Serious consequences will indeed emerge from this situation.
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March 03, 2024, 10:55:32 PM Last edit: March 03, 2024, 11:20:46 PM by erep |
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Maybe, if the situation of losing it all is only one time, I guess, you can still forgive your spouse. But of course, it would give you reason not to trust him or her, the next time around. Because if such situation will happen again and again, it means, your spouse is not respecting the agreement that you have. So yeah, a divorce is imminent if you see that your spouse is not changing to save your marriage.
It is a difficult decision for your partner to accept because you have spent your finances on gambling, unless you have a high monthly salary then she can consider his decision to wait for salary payment the following month, but if you have lost all your finances just because of you If you are addicted to gambling then there is no warning even if it happens for the first time, the decision is final to divorce you, so you have to be very careful in allocating funds for gambling and make sure you use low funds to gamble just for fun and not greed for gambling, then don't do anything stupid if you don't want to lose a loved one just because of the influence of gambling.
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March 03, 2024, 11:15:58 PM |
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Maybe, if the situation of losing it all is only one time, I guess, you can still forgive your spouse. But of course, it would give you reason not to trust him or her, the next time around. Because if such situation will happen again and again, it means, your spouse is not respecting the agreement that you have. So yeah, a divorce is imminent if you see that your spouse is not changing to save your marriage.
It is a difficult decision for your partner to accept because you have spent your finances on gambling, unless you have a high monthly salary then she can consider his decision to wait for salary payment the following month, but if you have lost all your finances just because of you If you are addicted to gambling then there is no warning even if it happens for the first time, the decision is final to divorce you, so you have to be very careful in allocating funds for gambling and make sure you use low funds to gamble just for fun and not greed for gambling, then don't do anything stupid if you don't want to lose a loved one just because of the influence of gambling. Having a high monthly salary is more reason to proceed with the divorce. It only means that the money was hard-earned and there's a possibility that this kind of situation may repeat due to this reason. No other reason should be seen but to do the divorce as there is no trust anymore. It is hard to earn the trust of someone even if it is the spouse. A lot of same cases like this have really been happening, the more they hold and continue to forgive their spouse the more they have a hard time with their finances. This is more reason why they should let go of this problem and proceed with divorce to make their life better.
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March 03, 2024, 11:16:33 PM |
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I understand gambling so well and I will not let my wife gamble to the point of losing everything. There is an adage which says that prevention is better than cure. Even when my wife is winning, I will try as much as possible to ensure that she gambles with a budget. However, if she gambles with everything I will not think of divorce but rather how to make her rise. Sorry to bring in religion, but it is clear that marriage is for better and for worse and as an ardent follower of Christianity, seeking divorce is totally out of place.
She will feel remorseful after losing everything and even go to the extent of saying that she will not gamble again but I will not let those talks get to me rather I will limit her access to money, seek to know how she spends her money and prevent her from gambling because I wouldn`t want her to make the same mistake again.
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March 03, 2024, 11:35:09 PM |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Never happened to me. But this is one reason why a couple breaks up, finances. It's okay when any of you gambles but when coming to a point that both of your finances have been affected. Then, don't expect that relationship is going to last. Whether you like it or not, a foundation of having a great finance is what making marriage and relationships lasts. And when it's teared down by gambling, it's hard to put that back with those little pieces. Of every individual who does it, gambling is mostly the reason why someone's household is destroyed because they can't control it. Knowing the point where you have to stop gambling is of course a must, because it will make gambling more controlled. If there is no more control, it will have many negative effects on finances and household life. no one wants to have a partner who is too much of a gambling addict. But for those who can control gambling, they are great and are not affected by the abyss of detrimental gambling.
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March 03, 2024, 11:41:17 PM |
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Maybe, if the situation of losing it all is only one time, I guess, you can still forgive your spouse. But of course, it would give you reason not to trust him or her, the next time around. Because if such situation will happen again and again, it means, your spouse is not respecting the agreement that you have. So yeah, a divorce is imminent if you see that your spouse is not changing to save your marriage.
It is a difficult decision for your partner to accept because you have spent your finances on gambling, unless you have a high monthly salary then she can consider his decision to wait for salary payment the following month, but if you have lost all your finances just because of you If you are addicted to gambling then there is no warning even if it happens for the first time, the decision is final to divorce you, so you have to be very careful in allocating funds for gambling and make sure you use low funds to gamble just for fun and not greed for gambling, then don't do anything stupid if you don't want to lose a loved one just because of the influence of gambling. Concerning financial strain and the potential consequences for the partnership are the few impact gambling addiction. Indeed, excessive gambling can lead to significant financial losses, causing strain and conflict within a relationship. A high monthly salary may provide some flexibility in addressing the issue, but the loss of all finances due to gambling addiction can be devastating and may lead to irreparable damage to the relationship. The decision for a partner to accept or reject a situation where finances have been squandered on gambling can be extremely challenging. People who engage in gambling need to differentiate between gambling for entertainment purposes and gambling driven by greed or addiction. You just need to use low funds for gambling and approach it as a form of leisure rather than a means of financial gain. It can help prevent excessive losses and minimize the impact on the relationship. Preserving a healthy and supportive relationship requires mindfulness, responsibility, and a willingness to address and overcome challenges such as gambling addiction.
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March 04, 2024, 12:11:09 AM |
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When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Never happened to me. But this is one reason why a couple breaks up, finances. It's okay when any of you gambles but when coming to a point that both of your finances have been affected. Then, don't expect that relationship is going to last. Whether you like it or not, a foundation of having a great finance is what making marriage and relationships lasts. And when it's teared down by gambling, it's hard to put that back with those little pieces. Finances are very important in family relationships because this is what can keep you and your family alive, and yes what you say is true that gambling is one of the activities that can destroy a person's relationship, especially those who are married, where they will definitely experience some financial problems if their gambling activities have exceeded reasonable limits. It is not uncommon for me to see several family relationships that eventually break down because one of the couples is involved in gambling activities and also I have one of my neighbors who experienced a case like this, which in the end there was no other decision they took other than agreeing to divorce. It was a very desperate situation, not only was it financially devastating but the family relationship was also devastated and obviously I can't imagine the pressure that was felt in that situation. So in my opinion there is nothing better than to quit gambling at all costs, or at least try to be a responsible gambler by only putting in the amount you can afford to lose, and along with that turn your attention to other things.
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