Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Proty]

I think there is nothing wrong if a good investor happened to wait for Small dump or dip in the market

Good investor will not wait for BTC to DIP for them to buy bitcoin because that is also buying at the DIP strategy and it's wrong, what happened to the dca strategy? .

buying the dip is not a wrong strategy. It is only when an investor is waiting for the dip to occur before investing that is the only thing that is wrong. So it is wrong application of the strategy that is wrong and not the strategy. Among all the strategies that is used in accumulating bitcoin, none is bad it depends on the one that best suits your financial situation. Infact an investor can be doing DCA and at the same time still buy the dips or even do lump sum as long as the extra cash is there. Waiting is not among the strategy that is used in accumulating bitcoin and no strategy is bad it is wrong application of the strategy that is bad

[Gallar]

At first glance, it seems like we can buy when it's low and sell when it's high, but in practice, it's not that easy. This is the simplest part, but we can't just accept it as a given.

I agree with you that the DCA strategy is a great way to accumulate Bitcoin in our wallets. Furthermore, we probably won't be too concerned about the price because our goal is long-term. Many people have found success with this strategy; even those with limited funds can maintain their Bitcoin holdings because they accumulate a certain amount over time, whether weekly or monthly.

That’s right, the true purpose of the DCA strategy is to eliminate worry. When you want to accumulate Bitcoin, you don’t need to think about price fluctuations or conduct deep market analysis, because your focus is on the long term. I think anyone can achieve profits if they remain consistent in applying the DCA strategy, though patience is also essential. In addition, the DCA strategy is quite effective in countering market euphoria or fear, so you won’t be influenced by whatever is happening in the market.

Yes, with DCA the worry and fear of market volatility does become less. Because as you have explained, that the DCA strategy applied in bitcoin for long-term investment does make it more comfortable.

But in my personal opinion, the important point that makes us not too afraid or worried about the volatility of the bitcoin price, is holding it in the long run. Because it's useless if for example we do DCA in bitcoin but for short-term investment. The problem is definitely fear and worry will remain large.

Unlike if we intend to invest in the long term in bitcoin, whatever the buying strategy, I think we will definitely still feel comfortable and not too worried about market volatility. So that's what I think.

[justinlamode]

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I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

As with many market corrections in bitcoin, those who end up doing the worst are those who are either trying to trade bitcoin or leverage bitcoin, and also those who are screwing around with shitcoins can get themselves in trouble, including that they may well end up putting their value in questionable locations, so they end up getting wiped out.

You have said nothing but the truth because I have seen example of some of the cases you explained. Those trading get burnt and those who mess around with shitcoins are still in deep negative as we speak about the dump but Bitcoin is already recovering while the various shitcoins are stagnant. Bitcoin is the only safe asset I will recommend to anyone to invest in, there have never been record of Bitcoin failing those who trust and invest in it irrespective of what Trump or anyone says, Bitcoin will always bounce back stronger and better.

Guys who are holding their own bitcoin do end up suffering some short term volatility and perhaps even sometimes devolving into extended downward corrections, yet at the same time, they still have their coins and they likely can accumulate more upon such corrections or just hold through the whole situation adn still end up being better off at some later point down the road.

In such situation, what they have to do is to buy more Bitcoin because it was not as if if the price had gone up they would have sold because they are long term investor. Anyone in such situation can as well seize that opportunity to buy more Bitcoin at very big discount and thereby increasing his stash which even work for his advantage in the future. Like I said before, Bitcoin have managed to recover some of the losses and in a couple of days, we might see it bounce back to $120k.

[Cgrexp]

I think there is nothing wrong if a good investor happened to wait for Small dump or dip in the market

Good investor will not wait for BTC to DIP for them to buy bitcoin because that is also buying at the DIP strategy and it's wrong, what happened to the dca strategy? .

buying the dip is not a wrong strategy. It is only when an investor is waiting for the dip to occur before investing that is the only thing that is wrong. So it is wrong application of the strategy that is wrong and not the strategy. Among all the strategies that is used in accumulating bitcoin, none is bad it depends on the one that best suits your financial situation. Infact an investor can be doing DCA and at the same time still buy the dips or even do lump sum as long as the extra cash is there. Waiting is not among the strategy that is used in accumulating bitcoin and no strategy is bad it is wrong application of the strategy that is bad

Different strategies for accumulating Bitcoin such as DCA, deep buying or one-time investment can all be effective if an investor does it according to their financial situation and goals. If someone has the ability, they can use DCA and deep buying together. Basically, the results are based on how, when and why we are applying the strategy. Therefore, it is important to understand your own situation and apply the strategy correctly.

[AYOBA]

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

Yeah, it’s not advisable for a person to take high risks that it cannot afford. Because the risks that are involved in the trading, not everyone can afford to do it. That’s why I prefer to encourage people to invest in Bitcoin or accumulate a Bitcoin by using the DCA method and hold it for a long period of time; it has peace of mind compared to trading with big amounts.

Although that risk is always better than regret, there are some times that it is better we regret than risk a high amount of money in the trading. In Bitcoin, no matter what the market price does, our assets will remain, and anytime that the price behaves normally, we can get our bitcoin back with high profits. That’s the logic of the long-term investments.

[puloweh555]

That’s right, the true purpose of the DCA strategy is to eliminate worry. When you want to accumulate Bitcoin, you don’t need to think about price fluctuations or conduct deep market analysis, because your focus is on the long term. I think anyone can achieve profits if they remain consistent in applying the DCA strategy, though patience is also essential. In addition, the DCA strategy is quite effective in countering market euphoria or fear, so you won’t be influenced by whatever is happening in the market.

Yes, with DCA the worry and fear of market volatility does become less. Because as you have explained, that the DCA strategy applied in bitcoin for long-term investment does make it more comfortable.

But in my personal opinion, the important point that makes us not too afraid or worried about the volatility of the bitcoin price, is holding it in the long run. Because it's useless if for example we do DCA in bitcoin but for short-term investment. The problem is definitely fear and worry will remain large.

Unlike if we intend to invest in the long term in bitcoin, whatever the buying strategy, I think we will definitely still feel comfortable and not too worried about market volatility. So that's what I think.

So the bottom line is that to invest in Bitcoin without worrying about market volatility, we must develop a clear mindset and investment goals. This means that when you have a long term goal, buying Bitcoin with any strategy won't worry you, because your initial goal is long-term. However if you don't have a good investment mindset and goals, it seems like any strategy you use will feel anxious when the market is volatile, especially when the market drops significantly, like yesterday, and you panic.

Buying during a dip isn't a problem; in fact, it's an advantage because you're buying Bitcoin at a discount, while also implementing a DCA strategy. Essentially, I'm saying that when investing in Bitcoin, you must have a long term goal. This will make it easier for you to adapt any strategy depending on market conditions.

[Cossyblack]

I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

I agree with you because we can actually achieve the same results and greater just by holding Bitcoin but greed wouldn't allow some of us to think this way. Trading causes lot of emotional & mental stress, traders can testify of this. Investment in Bitcoin for the long term is the best, it's give you the perfect peace of mind, stress free from timing the market and fear caused by the market. Investors in Bitcoin weren't worried nor affected by the recent decline cause from the recent US trade war with China because their main focus isn't the market anymore,Rather there are focus at Buying/accumulating Bitcoin until reaching over-accumulating status.

[Platinumys]

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

However, many people have bought deep in this dumping, those who have been forced to sell Bitcoin due to the fall in the price of Bitcoin are basically weak investors. Only weak investors sell Bitcoin, but it is better not to panic and be patient because no matter how much Bitcoin is dumped, it has returned to its previous price in a short time. That is why the best investor in Bitcoin investment should never panic.

I try to invest in Bitcoin consistently. Yes, recently we have seen that the price of Bitcoin has decreased by 7 to 8 percent from its normal value, so I am not buying Bitcoin with extra money, but now I am buying Bitcoin with the same amount that I used to buy Bitcoin with. I actually have a fixed amount to invest, I get a salary at the end of every month and after spending on my family, I buy Bitcoin with a part of that money, so now this is an opportunity, even then I am not able to buy Bitcoin with extra money, then I am satisfied because I am able to buy Bitcoin consistently at different price levels. Yes, it is definitely a good point that you have raised that those who cannot take dumping normally get excited and sell Bitcoin, but if you look at those investors who did not get excited even during dumping, rather they focused on holding on, but in the end they have been the most successful by investing in Bitcoin.

[Itz-prisigold]

I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

Honestly, you actually said it all, and I agree with what you said. Bitcoin isn't something you rush or treat it like a quick gamble  - it's something you grow to believe in as time goes by. When it comes to bitcoin, I have come to understand that time has always been the greatest weapon. The longer you hold, the more you start understanding that this is not just another asset; it a kind of financial independence that gets stronger with every passing year. And we all can testify to it's growth over and over again, every time the market dips, panic spread, people start to doubt, overthink and some will even lose hope completely. It's very sad, because people actually forget what Bitcoin truly stands for - patience and long-term vision.

Bitcoin always rewards patience. And people who really understand its fundamentals don't get troubled by short-term price changes, but long-term holding gives you a spotlight to the real transformation happening in the world economy. Governments, inflation and even wars — all those things will definitely pass away, but Bitcoin keeps moving forward, block after block.

For me, holding bitcoin really gives a kind of peace you can't get from pursuing quick profits. You don't panic at every dip or political tension. You should understand that Bitcoin's story isn't written in days or months- its written in years. Bitcoin holders own something real - something that keeps proving it's strength through every storm

[Churchillvv]

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

Perhaps over expectations and depending of previous pattern has lead a lot of people( especially those who do not understand bitcoin better and thus have misconception about bitcoin), into disappointment. Perhaps not a lot of people have the opportunity to under read through some of your works on bitcoin and investment yet I had the opportunity to go through some of your works or threads on bitcoin investment and I already developed the mindset after reading those threads that nothing is guaranteed and perhaps we can’t not predict bitcoin next move as long as we do not know our next minute, so whatever bitcoin does regardless of the mere fact that we are still in the bull run, guys should still be more concern with accumulation than the possible outcome of the bitcoin market crashing back to how it was weeks back.

[Showlove01]

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

However, many people have bought deep in this dumping, those who have been forced to sell Bitcoin due to the fall in the price of Bitcoin are basically weak investors. Only weak investors sell Bitcoin, but it is better not to panic and be patient because no matter how much Bitcoin is dumped, it has returned to its previous price in a short time. That is why the best investor in Bitcoin investment should never panic.

I believe that after the price of Bitcoin drops, it does not stay low for a long time, but starts to rise again in a short time, so it is better to stick to investing without panicking. I think that no matter how much the Bitcoin market moves towards dumping, if you can hold on and deal with it without panicking at this time, it is definitely one of the best employers. In my opinion, after investing in Bitcoin, you need to shake off the word panic and be patient. No matter how much the market moves towards dumping, you need to learn to deal with it and it is important to survive in this situation.

Most of the time the duration of the decline is very short. I think if the decline is more long term such as a stable price situation then it would be a great opportunity for investors to DCA. If you are a regular Bitcoin investor then it would be a wise investment to be aggressive during the price decline. Regular Bitcoin investment during the price decline or rise also gives you the confidence to continue investing for the long term. A panic sell off in any price market will later regret it because soon Bitcoin will reach another ATH. A great strategy to avoid panicking is to deposit Bitcoin through discretionary income because this fund is the remaining fund at the end of the month after all expenses.

You are getting it twisted and wrong, investing in Bitcoin using discretionary income is not really a strategy rather it is what is meant or what should be used in accumulating and buying Bitcoin. The strategy we have are DCA method, buy Dip and lump sum so Investing with discretionary income is not a strategy. We can't really tell or measure the duration of decline or dip and as an Investor you don't have to measure it because you don't have any business with how long a dip last or stay  and an investor should only take advantage of the market dip if they have prepared for it.

[gracreavix]

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

However, many people have bought deep in this dumping, those who have been forced to sell Bitcoin due to the fall in the price of Bitcoin are basically weak investors. Only weak investors sell Bitcoin, but it is better not to panic and be patient because no matter how much Bitcoin is dumped, it has returned to its previous price in a short time. That is why the best investor in Bitcoin investment should never panic.

Nothing out of the ordinary is happening now, Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it just swinged like it is supposed to, different people will react to it differently, some positive, some negative while others are nonechalant about it. Long term investors who are on focused DCA method will not be overwhelmed by a sudden ATH then dip and now recovering, they will keep buying because they are seeing far beyond this present market fluctuations. Weak hands needs to massively offload at some points to create excess supply in the market and it becomes buying opportunities for smart investors as always.

This  is precisely how the market separates people who are genuinely interested in Bitcoin from those who are merely looking to make fast money. Because volatility is what generates the opportunities that long term holders seize, it is not something to be afraid of. People who use DCA sees  these recoveries and dips as a normal part of the cycle. It only makes it easier for patient investors to build up more before the next big move when the weak hands leave.
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[Crytohillss]

I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

I agree with you because we can actually achieve the same results and greater just by holding Bitcoin but greed wouldn't allow some of us to think this way. Trading causes lot of emotional & mental stress, traders can testify of this. Investment in Bitcoin for the long term is the best, it's give you the perfect peace of mind, stress free from timing the market and fear caused by the market. Investors in Bitcoin weren't worried nor affected by the recent decline cause from the recent US trade war with China because their main focus isn't the market anymore,Rather there are focus at Buying/accumulating Bitcoin until reaching over-accumulating status.

Yes bro,  Actually holding Bitcoin for long term gives one the freedom to accumulate Bitcoin till it catapults to the highest level,
trading is a kind of  stress compare to Bitcoin investment,  timing the market relief one fear caused by the market survey.  For  me i will advice people to keep on buying Bitcoin till it reaches to his higher aim. I prefer to hold for long term with a leverage hoping things will get better rather than relying on short term.

[Father111]

At first glance, it seems like we can buy when it's low and sell when it's high, but in practice, it's not that easy. This is the simplest part, but we can't just accept it as a given.

I agree with you that the DCA strategy is a great way to accumulate Bitcoin in our wallets. Furthermore, we probably won't be too concerned about the price because our goal is long-term. Many people have found success with this strategy; even those with limited funds can maintain their Bitcoin holdings because they accumulate a certain amount over time, whether weekly or monthly.

That’s right, the true purpose of the DCA strategy is to eliminate worry. When you want to accumulate Bitcoin, you don’t need to think about price fluctuations or conduct deep market analysis, because your focus is on the long term. I think anyone can achieve profits if they remain consistent in applying the DCA strategy, though patience is also essential. In addition, the DCA strategy is quite effective in countering market euphoria or fear, so you won’t be influenced by whatever is happening in the market.

I really accept your points based on the dollar cost average strategy of eliminating worry, i agree to that because since i started using the dollar cost average strategy i have seen its purposes and i don't worry myself over the fluctuation of Bitcoin in market because dollar cost average is a free minded strategy that ara situtable for every beginner to make use as will begin Bitcoin investments journey to easyer life for us.

[JayJuanGee]

I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

As with many market corrections in bitcoin, those who end up doing the worst are those who are either trying to trade bitcoin or leverage bitcoin, and also those who are screwing around with shitcoins can get themselves in trouble, including that they may well end up putting their value in questionable locations, so they end up getting wiped out.

Guys who are holding their own bitcoin do end up suffering some short term volatility and perhaps even sometimes devolving into extended downward corrections, yet at the same time, they still have their coins and they likely can accumulate more upon such corrections or just hold through the whole situation adn still end up being better off at some later point down the road.

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

Exactly, Every time Bitcoin sneezes, traders catch pneumonia. 😂

There is something wrong with that analogy, since it is likely that the crash was triggered by Trump's announcement, that led into contagion in various markets that drug bitcoin down, yet those other markets were affected first and worse and bitcoin seemed like collateral damages... but yeah, the markets are somewhat intertwined so we cannot always tell what is causing what, even though they can have a contagion and cascading kind of an effect that affects some segments worse than other segments.

People forget this game rewards patience, not panic. If you’re trying to “outsmart” Bitcoin with 100x leverage on some sketchy exchange, congratulations, you’re basically gambling with turbo mode on.

Sure. Trading and/or shticoins have more risk and/or reward, and there are various ways that guys can get screwed by playing in those trading and/or shitcoin circles, especially when they are using leverage, but also sometimes based on the leverage that others are using.

Those who keep their Bitcoin safe in self-custody wallets might occasionally cry into their coffee when prices dip, but at least they still have their coins. The rest? They’re out there refreshing charts, praying their liquidation notice got lost in the blockchain. Funny thing is, Bitcoin can dance up and down all week, only to end up exactly where it started.

Those kinds of things have happened quite a bit in bitcoin's history, and sometimes the fall out comes months later, so we might have various ways that the prie moves, but then the BTC price could still end up getting sucked down at later points in time, similar to what happened in 2022 where there were various cascading failures that were not really resolved until mid-to-late 2023, even though the bitcoin price had already started to recover after the November 2022 low.

Traders lose sleep, traders lose hair, and traders lose money, meanwhile, the HODLers just lose track of time.

I get what you are saying, yet we are not guaranteed not to lose.. but yeah, so far we have tended  to do better by either HODLing through the matter or just continuing to buy in cases in which we might not have enough coins yet.

The lesson is to Stop babysitting the charts. Don’t romance every altcoin that promises “the next BTC.” Most of them are like relationships that look cute on Telegram but vanish at first red candle. Hold your coins, secure your keys, and touch grass once in a while. Because at the end of the day, the guy who didn’t panic-sell, didn’t overtrade, and didn’t fall for “next Bitcoin” coins is the one laughing when every one else is re-downloading trust wallet. 😎

I agree with this part of your post and your overall points, even though I still felt like quibbling a bit in regards to some of your assertions.

I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

As with many market corrections in bitcoin, those who end up doing the worst are those who are either trying to trade bitcoin or leverage bitcoin, and also those who are screwing around with shitcoins can get themselves in trouble, including that they may well end up putting their value in questionable locations, so they end up getting wiped out.

Guys who are holding their own bitcoin do end up suffering some short term volatility and perhaps even sometimes devolving into extended downward corrections, yet at the same time, they still have their coins and they likely can accumulate more upon such corrections or just hold through the whole situation adn still end up being better off at some later point down the road.

Largely the price of bitcoin in the past 24 hours has been right around the same price that it was at the end of September, so it should be difficult to be getting  upset even though there was an extreme up and an extreme down.. that largely brought us back to the same place we were at the beginning of the month (a mere 2 weeks ago).

I must say that you’ve made quite a very solid observation that reflects something that keeps repeating amongst investors every single cycle in the history of Bitcoin. Those who are always in fond of attempting to always outsmart the market through leverage, excessive trading or even filling their bags with all divers types of shitcoins are often the same folks who usually end up in the most compromising positions during market corrections. These kind of strategies are only bound to be effective for only for a little time, usually because the approach is mostly backed by a short term plan and so depend on short term luck and not long term conviction. When the market becomes very volatile, traders who depend on leverage gets liquidated, and even folks who are holding shitcoins often realize at that point that their so called project is just not as resilient as they actually thought they were.

Yep. There are a lot of ways that the trader, shitcoiner, the user of leverage, end up screwing themselves or getting screwed, or putting themselves in situations where it should have been obvious that there chances of getting screwed were high... yet at the same time, they have chances for BIG profits, that sometimes do not pay off, and they actually end up causing them to lose most if not all of any gains that they may have had been making in the sometimes years that they had spent building up their "trading portfolio."

If you also consider it on the other hand, folks who only put their focus on buying and holding their coins for the long term, often tend to come out stronger than others over time.

As a regular investor, the most that you can lose is 100%, and it would tend to take quite a bit of time for the loss of 100% to play out, if such loss were going to happen, yet with the leveraged trader, they can frequently lose 100% in a very short time, and sometimes they may well end up losing more than 100% based on how they structure their leverage.

Yeah, they do have to sit around the ups and downs of the market and watch their portfolio fluctuate, but even if the value of the coin might change drastically, they still have the same number of coins, and those who have studied or known about the history of Bitcoin would know that Bitcoin mostly rewards those who are patient. That’s why every DIP and every correction the matter experiences should be considered as another opportunity for true investors, either to ride it out till the market bounces back or another opportunity to accumulate more coins.

That is part of the experience that it could take more than a couple of cycles just to get a guy's bitcoin portfolio to a decently large size...and perhaps there could be frustration that the portfolio does not seem to be growing, and even realizing that the bitcoin holdings are not guaranteed to be successful , and even seeing other people who seem to be making money.

There can be temptations to get out of bitcoin and to go somewhere with more lucrative potential, yet part of the reality is that bitcoin is amongst the best, if not the best investment available to anyone and everyone who has discretionary income, so yeah, progress might not be noticeable in short term periods,.. and also for sure, progress is not guaranteed, yet it seems to me that if any of us are developing strong and solid bitcoin investment practices and strong and solid cashflow management practices, then we are likely going to be advantaged by our having had invested in bitcoin rather than if we had not, even though our advantage is not guaranteed.

I also love the point you made the current price movement. I know a lot of people are feeling a lot of pressure by the recent price drop, but if you really zoom out, you’d be able to see vividly that the recent price volatility doesn’t really make much of a difference or change much,  where the price is currently at now is roughly where it was at around the end of September, and yet a lot of naive folks who only expect the price of Bitcoin to only be on a green are panicking seriously over these small short term declines, forgetting to see how very little this decline actually affects the market when you decide to look at it on longer time frame. If not for anything, this type of market correction often helps to shake out the weak hands and reset the market for this who are ready for the next leg up.

It seems that people get so anxious about the price going up, and so each time it corrects, they start to get into their heads that "the price is going up this time for sure" blah blah blah, fantasy... ... so sure we should be able to recognize and even feel progress in the amount that the BTC price had already gone up, and the extent to which it might or might not go up in the future is far from guaranteed, so there can be all kinds of shaking out of recent accumulators/holders to make sure that they are solidly able to go through the ups and the downs of the market and to hang onto their coins with conviction (including buying more coins on the dip or periodically no matter where the BTC price goes in more or less the first whole cycle of their getting involved in bitcoin).

And, yeah, newbies should be excited to have the ups and the downs in the market and they can continue to buy no mater what without overdoing it, and hopefully, if they figure out their budget, then they can just continue to buy on a consistent, persistent, regular ongoing and perhaps even aggressive way, even if the amount might add up to $100 per week, $10 per week or some other amount that is feasibly within their budget (and of course, fairly within their discretionary income too).

[ZeroVinsonN]

At first glance, it seems like we can buy when it's low and sell when it's high, but in practice, it's not that easy. This is the simplest part, but we can't just accept it as a given.

I agree with you that the DCA strategy is a great way to accumulate Bitcoin in our wallets. Furthermore, we probably won't be too concerned about the price because our goal is long-term. Many people have found success with this strategy; even those with limited funds can maintain their Bitcoin holdings because they accumulate a certain amount over time, whether weekly or monthly.

That’s right, the true purpose of the DCA strategy is to eliminate worry. When you want to accumulate Bitcoin, you don’t need to think about price fluctuations or conduct deep market analysis, because your focus is on the long term. I think anyone can achieve profits if they remain consistent in applying the DCA strategy, though patience is also essential. In addition, the DCA strategy is quite effective in countering market euphoria or fear, so you won’t be influenced by whatever is happening in the market.

I really accept your points based on the dollar cost average strategy of eliminating worry, i agree to that because since i started using the dollar cost average strategy i have seen its purposes and i don't worry myself over the fluctuation of Bitcoin in market because dollar cost average is a free minded strategy that ara situtable for every beginner to make use as will begin Bitcoin investments journey to easyer life for us.

This is precisely why the DCA is very important to investors, it removes the want to worry of every small change in the price of bitcoin, people who are buying the DIP worry about the price they need a low price to be able to buy even lump sum purchasers don't want to buy a too high a price but people who are DCAing don't care about these things, they only worry will be on how much discretionary income they can manage, whether or not it will be enough for them to be able to maintain how much bitcoin they buy periodically,as long as their discretionary income is good then they don't have any thing to worry about, they just have to maintain their consistency as buyers are being willing to wait for at least 1 cycle preferably 2 before they start thinking about selling.

[BlackBoss_]

This is precisely why the DCA is very important to investors, it removes the want to worry of every small change in the price of bitcoin, people who are buying the DIP worry about the price they need a low price to be able to buy

Nobody are fearful when Bitcoin price changes midly except if they are using very high leverages and are fearful of high risk of liquidations even by small price changes on the market.

DCA is a strategy that is helpful for people to reduce emotional effects even in times of very wild changes of the market price. With this strategy, they no longer mind about big correction of Bitcoin as if they are able to buy such dips, they would feel happily rather than fearful.

Also buying dips means purchases made in highly volatile times of the market, not with small changes like you wrote. You got it wrong here.

[Tonimez]

This is precisely why the DCA is very important to investors, it removes the want to worry of every small change in the price of bitcoin, people who are buying the DIP worry about the price they need a low price to be able to buy

Nobody are fearful when Bitcoin price changes midly except if they are using very high leverages and are fearful of high risk of liquidations even by small price changes on the market.

DCA is a strategy that is helpful for people to reduce emotional effects even in times of very wild changes of the market price. With this strategy, they no longer mind about big correction of Bitcoin as if they are able to buy such dips, they would feel happily rather than fearful.

Also buying dips means purchases made in highly volatile times of the market, not with small changes like you wrote. You got it wrong here.

Real bitcoin investors (Not gamblers) make use of the period of market corrections because it's just a buy opportunity and if anyone sees it as that, there will be no records of the extreme heartbreak that usually occur and that sometimes lead to suicide among bitcoin handlers. There are unlimited benefits of investing in bitcoin on a long-term basis ranging from emotional stability and a stress-free condition of investment in the sense that you don't have to worry about the chart at anytime. The recent market drop should teach beginners the importance of staying away from bitcoin gambling and focus more on bitcoin HODLing by buying only with your discretionary income regularly by DCA. This will give you the relief you sort and keep far from worries while you go through cycles accumulating bitcoin instead of panicking and selling off at every slight market shift.

[virasog]

I think there is nothing wrong if a good investor happened to wait for Small dump or dip in the market

Good investor will not wait for BTC to DIP for them to buy bitcoin because that is also buying at the DIP strategy and it's wrong, what happened to the dca strategy? .

buying the dip is not a wrong strategy. It is only when an investor is waiting for the dip to occur before investing that is the only thing that is wrong. So it is wrong application of the strategy that is wrong and not the strategy. Among all the strategies that is used in accumulating bitcoin, none is bad it depends on the one that best suits your financial situation. Infact an investor can be doing DCA and at the same time still buy the dips or even do lump sum as long as the extra cash is there. Waiting is not among the strategy that is used in accumulating bitcoin and no strategy is bad it is wrong application of the strategy that is bad

Different strategies for accumulating Bitcoin such as DCA, deep buying or one-time investment can all be effective if an investor does it according to their financial situation and goals. If someone has the ability, they can use DCA and deep buying together. Basically, the results are based on how, when and why we are applying the strategy. Therefore, it is important to understand your own situation and apply the strategy correctly.

While the strategy of buying through DCA is one of the best strategy but one also needs to divide their portfolio in three different parts that is long term, short term and mid term.

I am emphasizing on it because by doing so you can sell some of your portfolio when the coins are in profits and keep holding the other portion for mid term gains and more  benefits and then finally the legendary bitcoin investment for longterm which you may not sell even in bull markets.

[Barikui1]

This is precisely why the DCA is very important to investors, it removes the want to worry of every small change in the price of bitcoin, people who are buying the DIP worry about the price they need a low price to be able to buy

Nobody are fearful when Bitcoin price changes midly except if they are using very high leverages and are fearful of high risk of liquidations even by small price changes on the market.

No, there are so many folks out there that are afraid of the volatility of Bitcoin, especially when it's in full swing, and such people are mostly traders and those that sells their Bitcoin at any slide increment in price, because they are short terms thinkers not long-term investors.

DCA is a strategy that is helpful for people to reduce emotional effects even in times of very wild changes of the market price. With this strategy, they no longer mind about big correction of Bitcoin as if they are able to buy such dips, they would feel happily rather than fearful.

no doubt, the DCA accumulating strategy remains the best among all because it keeps your emotions in check while investing, since you are buying at  every price interval you don't have to worry at what the market is doing as long as you are thinking long term.
Furthermore, the dca accumulating strategy is the perfect response to volatility since you are buying at every price interval including the lowest part of the dip that someone that is stupidly waiting for the dip might miss out thinking that it's going to dip further.