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April 07, 2024, 07:33:18 PM
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I doubt Trump has more broad support now then in 2016 when he was coming off his TV show fame and general idea of business man makes USA great etc.   The background picture now is not a cross country support based victory but more selective republican support.   Im not surprised his party cant field another candidate, he is the ex president after all but I dont assume others outside the party are switching to Trump.

If people are not switching to Trump, over to republicans as a vote and Trump has lost at least a bit of prior support from various negatives related to the court trials etc.   That doesnt add up to a win imo.

Trump cannot duplicate the surprise electoral college result.  Im going to be surprised if in an all vote count he has the majority and Biden is the minority, if I see that I will consider the idea again.   Trump isnt being elected but he is increasingly popular with some voters I get that.

Final point I have to remember myself, the bet and its odds especially in a pari-mutuel setup of betting has its own dynamics and trend to it.   Its a tricky one  I think the whole deal is interesting bet to do anyway, I try to stay neutral on the whole politics of it all of course.

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April 07, 2024, 08:31:28 PM
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One major reason is that RF Kennedy running as independent steals many votes from Biden according to the polls. So there's once again going to be fierce competition in swing states for each candidate to grab electors.
And there's also many working class left-wing voters that feel as if Biden has completely failed them and their families with his promises.
Biden underdelivered on promises of healthcare and student loans which was a huge disappointment to many left wing Americans especially after the Biden campaign had shot Berlie's presidential bid on the foot.
And then there's also issues that are important for many people. For instance Biden underdelivered on environmental issues.
And also Biden grossly underdelivered on humanitarian issues where he continued to allow and promote a genocide to take place in Gaza... This especially has angered people so much that people heckle Biden about it everywhere he goes, in all of his rallies.

So really while Trump got overwhelming support from his Party's members, Biden seems to be losing people from his traditionally left-wing base all around, which is never a good sign. Many people will be voting third party or not be turning up to vote at all. So this is a situation that favors Trump who still maintains a strong base.
I am really amazed if Kennedy are indeed overlapping with biden voters. Considering what that guy is talking about it's really far from any democrat, but i guess i have to trust the analysis of people who have studied this. Personally i can't get my head wrapped around that.

And i would believe that voters of Biden would know why that student loan forgiveness fail wasn't really fault of Biden. I totally believe that could be still coming, if they find a waterproof way to deliver that.

With Gaza i totally agree with. I can't really defend his actions or lack of actions on that. At least he finally has said something how it should stop, but that was really bad call. But i don't have a clue that for how many people this is a key issue. But i am certain that they won't flip fully for trump either.

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April 07, 2024, 11:00:14 PM
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I doubt Trump has more broad support now then in 2016 when he was coming off his TV show fame and general idea of business man makes USA great etc.   The background picture now is not a cross country support based victory but more selective republican support.   Im not surprised his party cant field another candidate, he is the ex president after all but I dont assume others outside the party are switching to Trump.

If people are not switching to Trump, over to republicans as a vote and Trump has lost at least a bit of prior support from various negatives related to the court trials etc.   That doesnt add up to a win imo.

Trump cannot duplicate the surprise electoral college result.  Im going to be surprised if in an all vote count he has the majority and Biden is the minority, if I see that I will consider the idea again.   Trump isnt being elected but he is increasingly popular with some voters I get that.
If not more support to Trump then it could be the case of Biden's declining popularity.

I also remember some people saying that he surprisingly won back then because the democrats only took him as a joke. They then made sure to come out and vote in the next election to put Biden in office. Could it be that the Republicans are thinking the same now - making sure they actually vote?

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April 07, 2024, 11:32:34 PM
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I doubt Trump has more broad support now then in 2016 when he was coming off his TV show fame and general idea of business man makes USA great etc.   The background picture now is not a cross country support based victory but more selective republican support.   Im not surprised his party cant field another candidate, he is the ex president after all but I dont assume others outside the party are switching to Trump.

If people are not switching to Trump, over to republicans as a vote and Trump has lost at least a bit of prior support from various negatives related to the court trials etc.   That doesnt add up to a win imo.

Trump cannot duplicate the surprise electoral college result.  Im going to be surprised if in an all vote count he has the majority and Biden is the minority, if I see that I will consider the idea again.   Trump isnt being elected but he is increasingly popular with some voters I get that.
If not more support to Trump then it could be the case of Biden's declining popularity.

I also remember some people saying that he surprisingly won back then because the democrats only took him as a joke. They then made sure to come out and vote in the next election to put Biden in office. Could it be that the Republicans are thinking the same now - making sure they actually vote?

It is more about the way the Republican party has devolved since 2020 and the way of thinking of the current average Trump supporter has on the democratic process. Back in the day, Trump was seen as a joke within politics, before his candidacy was taken seriously, but know this time is different. There people who even believe Donald Trump to be some kind of political/religious messiah which is supposed to command a battle against corruption and wokeness, I can even tell how Trump himself feels kind of awkward when in events people approach them to pray around him, and ask God to protect him and give him a second term.
This whole movement kindd has started to develop cultist characteristics, which highly benefits Trump.
After all, Trump said during his first campaign back in 2016, that he could literally kill someone in bored daylight in a gun in the 5th avenue and he would not lose any support from his base. That is what he has been trying to achieve with his tight grab on the Republican party.

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I feel like the people who vote for Trump do not vote FOR trump but to vote against Biden, which is same for people who vote for Biden as well. People are trying to show why one candidate should be the president, but I believe honestly that showing why the other one shouldn't be the president seems like a better campaign method.

If you let me, I can write 10 page article on why neither should be president, which is sad for the USA but that is a trouble for the Americans. They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.

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... They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.

Actually, once you have studied the politics of the United States for a long enough time you can come to the conclusion much of the power of choice on the candidates for the presidency of the country does not actually reside within the will of the people, but rather much has to do with the will of both the Republican and Democrat party and their corporate associates.
There is a good reason why in all major new outlets you will never see a their party candidate to be fully covered, the hegemonic power of the Republican and Democrat party has chose to keep something like an status quo on the political climate of the country.
The objective is to keep the duopoly on politics in their hands, so they can funnel as much money as possible from donors. So while it is true in the end on the end each person is responsible for who they vote for. The situation in that country is specifically designed to erase third party competitors from the game.

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April 13, 2024, 05:55:16 PM
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... They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.

Actually, once you have studied the politics of the United States for a long enough time you can come to the conclusion much of the power of choice on the candidates for the presidency of the country does not actually reside within the will of the people, but rather much has to do with the will of both the Republican and Democrat party and their corporate associates.
There is a good reason why in all major new outlets you will never see a their party candidate to be fully covered, the hegemonic power of the Republican and Democrat party has chose to keep something like an status quo on the political climate of the country.
The objective is to keep the duopoly on politics in their hands, so they can funnel as much money as possible from donors. So while it is true in the end on the end each person is responsible for who they vote for. The situation in that country is specifically designed to erase third party competitors from the game.



Watching how the US Presidential Race is going Trump might likely win, Biden has the support of few. If we consider with the policies, and laws passed by Biden, America is one of the worst Country on Earth. And many ain't ready for that, they want America to go back to it lost glory, a nation runned on moral standards, peace and love.

The America today is not the America of yesterday, and only Trump can help America and save them from this woke state. Against all odds Trump might Win.

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April 14, 2024, 07:25:53 AM
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I feel like the people who vote for Trump do not vote FOR trump but to vote against Biden, which is same for people who vote for Biden as well. People are trying to show why one candidate should be the president, but I believe honestly that showing why the other one shouldn't be the president seems like a better campaign method.

If you let me, I can write 10 page article on why neither should be president, which is sad for the USA but that is a trouble for the Americans. They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.
Joe Biden have weaknesses which are openly spotted out but for Donald Trump, he's one of the powerful men in the universe. Donald Trump have always been the best president though he's popularly known for his aggressive behavior and adamant when it comes to tolerance. World Power, United States Of America have everything to leas the world but based on the good chemistry between developed countries, let's say they're trying to remove the US from world power.



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April 18, 2024, 04:57:18 PM
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Joe Biden have weaknesses which are openly spotted out but for Donald Trump, he's one of the powerful men in the universe. Donald Trump have always been the best president though he's popularly known for his aggressive behavior and adamant when it comes to tolerance. World Power, United States Of America have everything to leas the world but based on the good chemistry between developed countries, let's say they're trying to remove the US from world power.

I don't have any doubt of the popularity of Donald Trump, of course. Actually, he used to be very popular even before getting involved within politics, once he got into the world of American politics his popularity increased dramatically. The degree of his popularity is such that even the legal problems he has had have little or no effect on the view people have about him.
Though, you should take a look at some polls and surveys which try to compile information about how the people of the United States views the trials Trump is going through. Because of it, I am expecting to see an inflection point in the popularity of Donald Trump if he happened to be found guilty of a felony.
If he is found to be guilty, I will probably bet against him and in favor of Joe Biden.

There is still people within the United States, who are Republican but also believe in the due process of their state and federal courts.

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April 18, 2024, 05:10:09 PM
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I doubt Trump has more broad support now then in 2016 when he was coming off his TV show fame and general idea of business man makes USA great etc.   The background picture now is not a cross country support based victory but more selective republican support.   Im not surprised his party cant field another candidate, he is the ex president after all but I dont assume others outside the party are switching to Trump.

If people are not switching to Trump, over to republicans as a vote and Trump has lost at least a bit of prior support from various negatives related to the court trials etc.   That doesnt add up to a win imo.

Trump cannot duplicate the surprise electoral college result.  Im going to be surprised if in an all vote count he has the majority and Biden is the minority, if I see that I will consider the idea again.   Trump isnt being elected but he is increasingly popular with some voters I get that.
If not more support to Trump then it could be the case of Biden's declining popularity.

I also remember some people saying that he surprisingly won back then because the democrats only took him as a joke. They then made sure to come out and vote in the next election to put Biden in office. Could it be that the Republicans are thinking the same now - making sure they actually vote?
With the current popularity and the noise under the Trump's name, that could be a big help for his candidacy.
Actually, it's hard to weigh in as of the moment because this two has a strong number of supporter.

Seriously, I'm thinking for a possibilities about Biden being more greedy to stay in power like taking this opportunity to declare war so he can stay in power for another term or until the war last. I don't know but I hope for a more clean election and hope that people of America will vote for who is the best in terms of their work since both candidate already served their terms and deliver a good one.

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April 22, 2024, 02:37:55 PM
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I feel like the people who vote for Trump do not vote FOR trump but to vote against Biden, which is same for people who vote for Biden as well. People are trying to show why one candidate should be the president, but I believe honestly that showing why the other one shouldn't be the president seems like a better campaign method.

If you let me, I can write 10 page article on why neither should be president, which is sad for the USA but that is a trouble for the Americans. They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.
Joe Biden have weaknesses which are openly spotted out but for Donald Trump, he's one of the powerful men in the universe. Donald Trump have always been the best president though he's popularly known for his aggressive behavior and adamant when it comes to tolerance. World Power, United States Of America have everything to leas the world but based on the good chemistry between developed countries, let's say they're trying to remove the US from world power.

I also see Donald Trump with potential, it should be noted that there is something that I admire a lot about him and that is his determination, apart from his financial education, when I read the book he wrote with Kiyosaki, they really did something masterful, some advice from people who really know Trump is very intelligent, that is what I admire most about him, apart from all this, another thing I admire is that unlike many presidents, he is not trained as a politician, he was trained to being a great manager, businessman, doing business and having a good vision of the generation, and that is something that defends him a lot, I think that the Biden era must now come to an end, many things have happened in the world, possible wars, and I know that the United States can somehow come in and Avoid certain conflicts, and this is something we all know, so I am inclined to see him win too.

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April 22, 2024, 03:06:31 PM
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I feel like the people who vote for Trump do not vote FOR trump but to vote against Biden, which is same for people who vote for Biden as well. People are trying to show why one candidate should be the president, but I believe honestly that showing why the other one shouldn't be the president seems like a better campaign method.

If you let me, I can write 10 page article on why neither should be president, which is sad for the USA but that is a trouble for the Americans. They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.
Joe Biden have weaknesses which are openly spotted out but for Donald Trump, he's one of the powerful men in the universe. Donald Trump have always been the best president though he's popularly known for his aggressive behavior and adamant when it comes to tolerance. World Power, United States Of America have everything to leas the world but based on the good chemistry between developed countries, let's say they're trying to remove the US from world power.

I also see Donald Trump with potential, it should be noted that there is something that I admire a lot about him and that is his determination, apart from his financial education, when I read the book he wrote with Kiyosaki, they really did something masterful, some advice from people who really know Trump is very intelligent, that is what I admire most about him, apart from all this, another thing I admire is that unlike many presidents, he is not trained as a politician, he was trained to being a great manager, businessman, doing business and having a good vision of the generation, and that is something that defends him a lot, I think that the Biden era must now come to an end, many things have happened in the world, possible wars, and I know that the United States can somehow come in and Avoid certain conflicts, and this is something we all know, so I am inclined to see him win too.

@luckmcfly you have made credible points to the elevation of Thrump against Biden which to me are very much true even though am not an American but thanks to books I read. IMO, a key aspect that will sharply influence the choice of the American citizens looking at the position of the United States of America in the world politics, with what is going on in the different parts of the world, the Ukraine-Russia war and the recent Isreal-Iran conflict which America has shown some weakness in intervening audaciously all through this period of Biden's administration unlike in Thrump's administration  and more other previous administrations. So it's unlikely that Biden might have a second chance in this election.

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Im not sure the businessman look is working to so well when they are prosecuting him for various tax and fraud charges.  Or at least that is what the courts are attempting to do.   Normally I think they would just ignore or fail to proceed with charges as prosecutors dont like to lose cases not easy to prove.   Obviously its in lieu of full charges for his supporters actions vs the senate in the democratic process, many take that disaster as the most serious thing that cannot be ignored.

I'd agree on the Trump as alternate to Biden as 50/50 if it weren't already impaired from his 2016 run where every factor came into play to make that election run work.   Apart from being an ex president he hasnt improved his chances by his record or standing with the broad breadth of the population.  His own supporters no doubt will redouble their vigorous campaign but I believe it does require more votes from the middle ground and those are eroded by all the news headlines.

Not everyone watches Fox news or any Tv news especially.  They may read the newspaper perhaps not even a national one, my point is not all share the same perspective hence the cross-section of votes varies greatly in their stance but overall I dont see an improvement or increase in depth of support except within Republican party, the middle ground will decide 2024 elections & those who dont even like either candidate.

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April 22, 2024, 04:23:46 PM
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I feel like the people who vote for Trump do not vote FOR trump but to vote against Biden, which is same for people who vote for Biden as well. People are trying to show why one candidate should be the president, but I believe honestly that showing why the other one shouldn't be the president seems like a better campaign method.

If you let me, I can write 10 page article on why neither should be president, which is sad for the USA but that is a trouble for the Americans. They are the ones who picked these candidates, not like these candidates came out of nowhere and forced on them, people of the USA hand picked these two old weird dudes as their future president, and both did their term as well. So they should pity their situation.
Joe Biden have weaknesses which are openly spotted out but for Donald Trump, he's one of the powerful men in the universe. Donald Trump have always been the best president though he's popularly known for his aggressive behavior and adamant when it comes to tolerance. World Power, United States Of America have everything to leas the world but based on the good chemistry between developed countries, let's say they're trying to remove the US from world power.

I also see Donald Trump with potential, it should be noted that there is something that I admire a lot about him and that is his determination, apart from his financial education, when I read the book he wrote with Kiyosaki, they really did something masterful, some advice from people who really know Trump is very intelligent, that is what I admire most about him, apart from all this, another thing I admire is that unlike many presidents, he is not trained as a politician, he was trained to being a great manager, businessman, doing business and having a good vision of the generation, and that is something that defends him a lot, I think that the Biden era must now come to an end, many things have happened in the world, possible wars, and I know that the United States can somehow come in and Avoid certain conflicts, and this is something we all know, so I am inclined to see him win too.


I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

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April 22, 2024, 04:40:50 PM
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I also see Donald Trump with potential, it should be noted that there is something that I admire a lot about him and that is his determination, apart from his financial education, when I read the book he wrote with Kiyosaki, they really did something masterful, some advice from people who really know Trump is very intelligent, that is what I admire most about him, apart from all this, another thing I admire is that unlike many presidents, he is not trained as a politician, he was trained to being a great manager, businessman, doing business and having a good vision of the generation, and that is something that defends him a lot, I think that the Biden era must now come to an end, many things have happened in the world, possible wars, and I know that the United States can somehow come in and Avoid certain conflicts, and this is something we all know, so I am inclined to see him win too.

Maybe we are watching a different speeches and tweets /  but intelligence isn't the word that comes to mind. It's confidence combined with incompetence. But what i give him credit for is his conman skills. He is extremely good example of confidence trickster, like an embodiment of dunning–kruger-efekt. And he takes it to such ridiculous levels, he formed a cult. And there's nothing he has ever said that would help me believe that he was involved with the creation of the book kiyosaki wrote, except lending his name for publicity.

What makes him favorite presideltal candinate in betting, is the fact no matter what he says, his supporters believe him, and that's where he is on his best. He can talk about anything and just say that he is very best at it, and for some reason deliver it with such a confidence that people believe in him. And if someone calls him out, he just belittles them and invents insulting nicknames. Like a bully in a schoolyard, people rather stay on his good side not to get trump treatment. So in short: people believe him and people who are betting for him know this.


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I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

Yes, it is very true, although since Trump has now gotten more involved in politics, what I imagine is that now he wants to win over his party much more, in addition to pleasing his opponents, of course politics is like that, you have to do deals and things that are not very good just to receive support and then have to pay political favors, that is something that changes the face of everything, I just intuit it, I don't know if it really happens, I'm just speculating, what happens is that in the country in which one lives, politicians risk all this to have what they want most, and once they are in power, things are done to please those who helped them and so on. The president has more support within Congress and I believe that the people take a second or perhaps a third place.

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I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

Yes, it is very true, although since Trump has now gotten more involved in politics, what I imagine is that now he wants to win over his party much more, in addition to pleasing his opponents, of course politics is like that, you have to do deals and things that are not very good just to receive support and then have to pay political favors, that is something that changes the face of everything, I just intuit it, I don't know if it really happens, I'm just speculating, what happens is that in the country in which one lives, politicians risk all this to have what they want most, and once they are in power, things are done to please those who helped them and so on. The president has more support within Congress and I believe that the people take a second or perhaps a third place.

Trump has been a great contender and although I don't know what will be the outcome of the election but I just needed to see someone there that would take the country to a better atmosphere. One can try luck and win the bet if what they predicted actually becomes the outcome. Sometimes it is good we try and bet on this kind of game so that we can try to make money from it but this is not going to be easy. Biden is already old and I think he needed to rest nit trying to rule the country one more time since he has been in the presidential seat as vice for so long. It is time we expect a surprising result because this is going to be difficult to predict.

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April 25, 2024, 03:37:48 PM
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Trump has been a great contender and although I don't know what will be the outcome of the election but I just needed to see someone there that would take the country to a better atmosphere. One can try luck and win the bet if what they predicted actually becomes the outcome. Sometimes it is good we try and bet on this kind of game so that we can try to make money from it but this is not going to be easy. Biden is already old and I think he needed to rest nit trying to rule the country one more time since he has been in the presidential seat as vice for so long. It is time we expect a surprising result because this is going to be difficult to predict.


There is something that must Always be fulfilled, I have always said something , When a President stays in power for a long time, all things fall apart and that is something that should not be allowed , because a person in power is no good for him to stay so long , and for now Trump has had many problems , he has had to face trials and Many things with judges, he has seemed tired because he cannot run for president, and apparently that is the only thing that has kept him bored, I am not an American , but in political terms, I think that a Country of that caliber must have a Really Strong President , Biden has done well, he has had his mistakes , but that is normal for any human being , but if the USA needs a change or course in another direction.

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April 25, 2024, 04:34:34 PM
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I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

Yes, it is very true, although since Trump has now gotten more involved in politics, what I imagine is that now he wants to win over his party much more, in addition to pleasing his opponents, of course politics is like that, you have to do deals and things that are not very good just to receive support and then have to pay political favors, that is something that changes the face of everything, I just intuit it, I don't know if it really happens, I'm just speculating, what happens is that in the country in which one lives, politicians risk all this to have what they want most, and once they are in power, things are done to please those who helped them and so on. The president has more support within Congress and I believe that the people take a second or perhaps a third place.


Oh, I am sure Trump is aware on the political favors and the alliances which are necessary for him to climb onto power again.
For example, lately there is a lot of drama going on in the United States because of how it is expected Tik Tok will be banned from the USA soon, if their other company does not seem the social media to other company based in the country.

In previous years, Trump himself has been very critic on the way the social media is being handled from China and how it could represent a national threat, as it collects information of the American people and stores it in China. Recently, Trump has changed his heart and political position on TikTok being banned, and there are two main reasons for it: he recognizes the generation Z likes Tik tok and if Biden bans Tik tok, it will be beneficial for him. It was also uncovered there is a donor of Trump who seems to have a major stake on Tik tok, so he changed his opinion to please those who had keep his campaign running with donations.

That is what most of American politics is about, donators and big corporations manipulating law and the will of the people, who does not have billions in assets.

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April 25, 2024, 05:38:08 PM
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I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

Yes, it is very true, although since Trump has now gotten more involved in politics, what I imagine is that now he wants to win over his party much more, in addition to pleasing his opponents, of course politics is like that, you have to do deals and things that are not very good just to receive support and then have to pay political favors, that is something that changes the face of everything, I just intuit it, I don't know if it really happens, I'm just speculating, what happens is that in the country in which one lives, politicians risk all this to have what they want most, and once they are in power, things are done to please those who helped them and so on. The president has more support within Congress and I believe that the people take a second or perhaps a third place.


Oh, I am sure Trump is aware on the political favors and the alliances which are necessary for him to climb onto power again.
For example, lately there is a lot of drama going on in the United States because of how it is expected Tik Tok will be banned from the USA soon, if their other company does not seem the social media to other company based in the country.

In previous years, Trump himself has been very critic on the way the social media is being handled from China and how it could represent a national threat, as it collects information of the American people and stores it in China. Recently, Trump has changed his heart and political position on TikTok being banned, and there are two main reasons for it: he recognizes the generation Z likes Tik tok and if Biden bans Tik tok, it will be beneficial for him. It was also uncovered there is a donor of Trump who seems to have a major stake on Tik tok, so he changed his opinion to please those who had keep his campaign running with donations.

That is what most of American politics is about, donators and big corporations manipulating law and the will of the people, who does not have billions in assets.

To which most politicians are not so different after all. Whether a Dem or Rep, they are all still part of the same group that has the same enemy.  Trump is a businessman though and he has to balance not upsetting his donors that's why it may be his idea to offer to buy Tiktok first or else ban it.

Whoever wins the election still has no real freedom to do things really because of the donors who have control over the politicians.

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