Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction

[Coin_trader]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

His reaction is probably due to the fact that news like this will affect his streams since he earn through gambling content while the news is all about showing dark side of gambling effect that might turn off his followers. I’m not defending his action he is the type of person that is arrogant as his character when he streams.

I’m not expecting him to show some sad reaction because it will be out of character for him.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

His reaction towards the news doesn’t reflect to the stream he produced which is the sole basis whether he deserves to be on kick platform or not. I find his stream entertaining as a fellow gambler. I don’t about his opinion about different matter because I don’t watch him for his opinion but to the way he delivers his stream.

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[Z390]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

This is why some countries are in fear of exposing gambling ads to their citizens, gambling isnt illegal in most countries but they forbid gambling promotions and adverts in the public, it will simply take a lot of lives, and many people are weak when it comes to thinking for themselves, they can take their lives or commit grave crimes.

I have never been pushed my streamers before because I know what's happening behind the scenes, streamers don't lose any money, they are either faking the casino wins or they are using money contributed to them through their fans to gamble.
If streamers lose every penny they won't feel anything, but that doesn't mean you will feel the same way if you take such a risk, remember that someone is feeding them the money, not you, so whatever you lose is on you, lack of understanding is what makes this person took his own life, there is no money thats worth anyone's life.

[Woodie]

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  

You are some how right, these streamers are given free money on the house tab to play whatever games...win or lose and keep showing  these big payouts that they won and their viewers believe this is possible for them to win, but then again I believe these guys do put disclaimers to avoid the finger pointing and let's also not forget there is an aspect of due diligence especially that gambling is for person's above the age of 18 who are supposed to have the element of knowing right and wrong or differentiating fake from real.
Otherwise, it's unfortunate a life was lost because of the problem of gambling addiction... perhaps all gambling platforms need a gambling time out to allow people to reset.

This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Not sure if this is justified to be honest!!! Simple solution is to ensure the audience is over a certain age to ensure everyone has the ability to make their own choices...

Btw, If they ban streamers affiliated to gambling, then we might as well ban gambling ads on television, billboards , newspapers etc because all this leads to getting more players to gambling ..

[junder]

This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

[swogerino]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

They should be allowed only if they abide by a code of conduct and use a lot of disclaimers so they are not allowed to speak whatever they want and as such to be impacting people with low self esteem as only people with low self esteem use dramatic measures like taking their own life.

I have never even thought about it and I have been with just 30 cents in my pocket with a family to feed and lots of debt to pay yet I thought whatever happens I will solve this situation.

[aioc]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.

[Beparanf]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.

AFAIK Eddie own the Kick platform which is dedicated for gambling streaming. Additionally, Adin Ross is big streamer partner of Stake which is the Kick platform dedicated to use for gambling streaming. I doubt that they take down their huge asset like Adin but rather(maybe) they will just give him a warning but not to the point of kicking him out.

Most of the streamers have a different jerky attitude like trainwreck and xposed. Eddi like them the way they are because that’s what the viewer like.

[ryzaadit]

Even if you talking about just (Adin-Ros) you are wrong.

We already have many people who are from normal people (like gamers, etc) streaming about (Gambling) once they got a deal with casino. The other problem is we need to take a look on CASINO too, because they chasing new people by targeting non-audiens gambler (especially a streaming content are not originally about gambling). I don't mind, If they sponsor (Steve, XPOSED, Roshtein and other gambling streamer) because these streamer is originally streaming about gambling. So mostly the audience are gambler as well, the problem are non-gambler streamer sponsor.

[Quidat]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.

If these people would really be just making use of their common sense then they wont really be ending up on having that kind of addiction on seeing these live streamers on regarding about gambling.
It is really just that mind boggling that they could really be easily get hooked up with these streams because if you do really just simply make use of your own common sense then you would really be easily be able to spot in or even how i do see these streams to be that interesting? Due to those big wins because of that huge amount bet for each roll and hitting up jackpots?
Somewhat people are really that easily be getting fooled and this is why having this kind of marketing is really that still effective because there are still those people who do get influenced by this.

Its true that these influencers should really be kicked out and never ever would be letting to have those kind of streams. I dont know if Twitch did make some revoking those decisions
with those kind of streams on which i could say that it is really just that ethical.

[moneystery]

what a poor soul. this is the reason why gambling can lead to something bad. no one wants that someone will take their own life just because of gambling. moreover, he is still very young and has a long future ahead, it is very sad to see a young person commit suicide because of his addiction.

that's why it's important to campaign for responsible gambling practices and gambling education, so that bad things like this can be reduced or even eliminated.

[Sim_card]

The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.

[Rockstarguy]

Gambling Addiction put people in serious problems but still people still take other people's experience for granted instead to learn from it .addiction is real and gamblers needs to understand this. The danger of getting addicted should be the reason why gamblers needs to be very careful with the way they involve themselves in gambling.  Gambling is very risky and can't be predicted,  it will be unwise for one to play with excessive money thinking it will definitely be a win. The risk in gambling is very high , it is better for people to play a lower amount that they can afford to lose, even if anything happens it won't be a problem to one.

[rahmad2nd]

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, it's not in my capacity to judge someone whatever their job. no exception, for streamers. however, as long as the platform that is their media does not prohibit it and no rules are violated, they have the right to do what they do, in this case their job is to be a streamer. Regarding cases like the one told in this thread, what is ridiculous is someone who commits suicide because he lost his gambling. this is where we have to remember, and have an understanding of gambling itself. what gambling means to us, everyone has different assumptions and thoughts. well, there are various cases in the form of gambling that end in tragic stories. Suicide cases over gambling are not something we have heard recently throughout our discussions about gambling. so, in this case I don't have the capacity to interpret someone. It should be the viewers who are smarter in their responses when watching streamers' broadcasts.

To be honest, I rarely see streamers broadcasting their gambling. I would rather have a real discussion than witness something we don't know. I mean, is this streamer actually spending personal money. or, it is paid by a specific casino platform. The point is, if indeed there should be many cases like this. Moreover, the percentage is very high, maybe the platform provider should increase its regulations regarding gambling streamers. Well, and that's beyond my control or assumptions. So, I leave all of that to the community to judge.

[Juse14]

This highlights how important rules and responsibilities are in the online streaming industry, especially regarding shows that involve gambling. And of course, Adin Ross, who is one of the famous streamers, has quite a large influence on his audience, also on the promotion of gambling in his content, which could have a negative impact on his audience, especially vulnerable people.

An apathetic action taken by editor Adin Ross regarding the news about a fan who committed suicide, this shows a lack of sensitivity to circulating and serious issues. Of course, this can raise questions about content ethics and responsibility in the streaming industry. And individuals who are indifferent to the negative impact of the content they create, of course individuals like this are not on stage, because it can endanger users and can damage the reputation of platform itself.

[Doan9269]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

I don't expect them to publicize this news since its a disheartening breaking news that led to someone taking his life, this will make other feels about a negative impact of gambling on ones life to the extent of taking life, though this gambler made his own decision in going for that as his own choice, but it was wrong and serves a bad impression for the media to air this sad event to the public because many will see the negative effect of gambling being projected in such manner and be disappointed.

[Odohu]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

What I expect is that a disclaimer be made visible to pass the responsibilities of what people do with the information to them. He style of presentation, who often appear as being controversial, may just be part of his uniqueness even though he seems to go too extreme. I wouldn't hold it on him for another of his follower taking his life, there is really no justification for that. With a disclaimer, followers should understand the importance of maintaining their sanity while consuming the content.

This is not the first time someone is taking his life with even awkward reason. We must not ban people or activities just because people who are sick could not know how to control their emotions. We have heard of issues of supporters of a team being attacked for merely being supporters. Should the team whose supported attack others be banned for the actions of their supporters? Even though these two scenarios may not exactly be the same, I'm sure you should be able to get the message it is conveying.  People should take their mental health seriously, this is the simple truth.

[Hispo]

Completely depressing news, in my opinion. Mental health is seriously looked away when comes to the well being of people. It would seem most of the times people focus on physical health and do not care on the mental well being of others or even themselves.
We could debate what the percentage of responsibility of those streamers is when comes to sad stories like this one, but it is not only  about the awareness, promotion or advertisement of gambling on the internet or in streaming platforms like Kick/Twitch.

No mentally sound person would have ending themselves as an option after losing money on a casino. So besides some restrictions which you guys are talking about, I believe it would more constructive for the quality of life of people if society as a whole did not stigmatize mental problems and the government provided mental healthcsre to people who think about hurting themselves.

Whoever this person is, I hope he is resting and is in a better place, regardless of his religion or lack of it. 😔

Please guys, never chance losses and never wager more than you are supposed to...

[Yatsan]

Power of "Influence".
Unfortunately, not all streamers especially gambling promoters are concerned of such instances simply because they are being paid to advertise and encourage for a particular platform. Sad reality is that they are doing it to earn money, which is a right motive but a bit off with the method to achieve such purpose. They could at least not make gambling a 'must try' activity perhaps with promotions showing how easy it is to win, wherein in reality there's no such thing as easy when it comes on gambling. I cannot put all of the blame to the promoter or even with the gambling provider 'coz no matter how we look at it they are just doing their 'job'. This boils down for us audiences to be vigilant and responsible of our actions.

It is okay to bet sometimes as long as there'll be moderation. If you are already having assumptions of getting rich in gambling then be cautious of gambling. A strong assumption requires strong will and determination to make it happen. In this instance, you're more likely to bet huge mount for the sake of getting huge in return. Keep in mind that no matter how you wanted things to be in favor on your end, if you're not lucky then nothing will happen. Be preventive of putting yourself into a situation that will bury yourself to the deepest financial state.

[madnessteat]

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It seems to me that each of us chooses our own path. And if someone decides to commit suicide because of a loss in a casino, he was just weaker than the circumstances.

There have always been such people and their problems are not only related to gambling. Someone commits suicide because of debts, someone because of unrequited love, someone foolishly just deciding to check what is there behind the line of life.

In my opinion, this is natural selection and there is no escape from it. Blame someone for it? Unfortunately, I can not give an exact answer because when making such a decision a person analyzes several circumstances at once, not just one.

I sincerely feel sorry for the relatives of suicide victims. I wish they had thought about their grief before deciding to commit suicide.

[Natsuu]

That's really sad for someone's fan to take his own life because of someone not listening to you. I do hope that these people in power that have a stream and reach try to see and be empathetic toward people who might be struggling with something. They should be controlled and accountable for what he is doing because of the fact that there are a lot of people who probably look up to him. It's a responsibility IMO.

Right. It's just heartbreaking when a fan feels so ignored that they do something like this. Streamers and influencers need to step up and realize the impact they have. They should be more empathetic and responsible with their content, especially knowing how many people look up to them. It's not just about views and likes,  it's about caring for their audience especially those who might be going through a rough patch. And platforms should definitely do more to keep tabs on what's being put out there to avoid spreading harmful stuff