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March 20, 2024, 06:27:27 PM
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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

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March 20, 2024, 08:22:51 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Bro this is extreme.

No, I did not mean anything violent. I just think that just as we got rid of some infectious diseases, such as the plague, (by better sanitation, hygiene, medical advancements...) so we need to find a permanent solution for problem gambling among young people. In the same way that rats were once the main cause of the spread of vicious diseases among people, today we have streamers who promote gambling, which can have dire consequences.

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March 20, 2024, 08:28:34 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Those guys are bad actors although they are up to they own business but the Truth is that, they are not being truthful to the audience and there is no any form of risk warning from their part so their followers thinks that as the fake bets they are streaming are winning same it is in real life, but when the attempt to apply same approach to they own betting they end up losing what they can not afford to lose and then slid into depressions.


I don't follow any of the streamers since I already have the knowledge of how they operate and what to expect in reality from gambling, so for that let they go to hell with all the lies they preach with fake money and fake winnings just to promote they own trends

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March 20, 2024, 08:30:11 PM
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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.
Influencers and advertisers who promote gambling frequently do so in a deceptive or misleading way. They may disregard the risks involved or make false promises about the potential rewards. Not just the influencers, Many gambling companies also use predatory marketing practices to lure people in. They may offer freebies or bonuses to get people started, and then gradually increase the stakes, making it harder and harder to walk away. This is a serious problem.

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March 20, 2024, 08:35:43 PM
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This is a bit of a complicated situation in my opinion because in the end, when a streamer is gambling and broadcasts it to a large audience, it will definitely become a situation where it will be followed but the mistake in this case is that the fans should also be able to control their gambling situation because something like this could not have happened if they were selective about gambling so as not to make addiction spread to themselves.
This is not entirely the streamer's fault but it does not mean that he is also not at fault because he is guilty of not reminding his followers where gambling can make the situation worse, so it is important to remind each other to limit themselves in every gambling that is done because after all this is an important thing that we must do.
I am sorry for those who did commit suicide whether it is new or old news but in the end this should be a lesson that sometimes ending life just because of a problem will not solve the problem but instead create new problems so be wise for all of us in thinking about something so as not to be controlled by lust.

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March 20, 2024, 08:39:41 PM
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Most of these streamers are really young. When you give someone at that age this kind of money and fame, they are bound to misuse it. They are getting paid millions for doing what exactly? I have watched clips of a couple of their livestreams and they do and say nothing productive. Adin Ross is quite the controversial character, unfortunately he has a large community online and teenagers make up the majority of his audience. I do not have a problem with promoting legitimate gambling casinos, that’s his job but his reaction to the sad news shows how little he cares about his followers. It’s no surprise that most influencers have no sense of responsibility for what they choose to say and promote.  

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March 20, 2024, 08:40:59 PM
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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

It is a very sensitive topic, I would say delicate, but you have to know how to play and know how to say some things, a normal influencer has to always have a very High spirit, and that is something that you have to do all the time, for Therefore, when we are people who are generating some money through work like this, we must Know very well that things will sometimes turn ugly and go wrong, we must have enough moral strength to get out of any adversity, We live in a system where we are able to get out of adversity very well, except that we live in a world where everyone wants to point us out for doing things that others believe are wrong, but that those people do do.

It is a thought that someone commits suicide because they are lacking the bond of faith and love that is life, life is so beautiful to take it away that sometimes I think that people who commit suicide are because they are influenced by many bad Things.


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March 20, 2024, 08:46:18 PM
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Aww, sad and awful. I think that most streamers need to always remember their fans that they should only gamble with what they can afford to lose. Platforms like kick and twitch, they can't casinos sponsoring streamers to have them advertised on their streams and contents. It is not going to stop so there's no way to stop that unless the streamer changes his way and decides not to advertise anymore. And us being part of the gambling community, as promoters of casinos too and at the same time gamblers, we have to consider ourselves and needs to check every time that we're not feeling well. Maybe there's already something wrong from within that we can't realize it the earliest but in the long run, that what we have noticed is already having a heavy impact to our lives. It's hard to say that we should just stop when we cant' take the losses but we don't have the same tolerance as these victims of their own misfortune that led to something terrible such as ending their own lives. We don't want this to happen to anyone and that's why if we see someone who's struggling then we can approach them and have it reminded to gamble moderately.

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The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 
Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

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In real sense, or reality per say, we can necessarily blame gambling streamers for whatever fate that befalls any of their fans, for I personally have always had this believe that a man is the moulder and author of his or her own destiny, when watching streamers do what ever they do on live stream, I believe they never force anyone to do the same thing they do, viewers still have their liberty to choose to, or not choose to do that which they have watched the streamer do.

So, in the nutshell, I am not saying that what Adin (or what ever he's called) did is right by dismissing the death of his fan who committed suicide in such a manner that he did, for I believe that he should have showed a little concern and payed some respect to the dead, but in the end, we all are captain of our life and decide how to live it decide what to do and what not to do, and actually, It is not any of his fault that his fan had to take his own life, that was completely the fan's decision and a poorly made one at that.

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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

It is a very sensitive topic, I would say delicate, but you have to know how to play and know how to say some things, a normal influencer has to always have a very High spirit, and that is something that you have to do all the time, for Therefore, when we are people who are generating some money through work like this, we must Know very well that things will sometimes turn ugly and go wrong, we must have enough moral strength to get out of any adversity, We live in a system where we are able to get out of adversity very well, except that we live in a world where everyone wants to point us out for doing things that others believe are wrong, but that those people do do.

It is a thought that someone commits suicide because they are lacking the bond of faith and love that is life, life is so beautiful to take it away that sometimes I think that people who commit suicide are because they are influenced by many bad Things.


Lets consider out other factors too on why people do really commit out suicide and not everything should really be getting blamed into those influencers considering that they are really just that doing their job.
It is really just that these kind of suivide situation for those people who do become that addicted is that not all things would really be that be blamed into the influencer itself on which we do know that
each of us does have that kind of so called way of thinking on things on which it would really be that so impossible that you cant really be able to make out decisions for yourself whether you are
that be stopping on doing gambling because you have lost too much or would really be playing since you are really just that spending on the amount which you can afford to lose.
It would really be just that basing up on how you would really be making up decisions because its impossible that a certain person wouldnt really be having into.

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March 20, 2024, 09:55:44 PM
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Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction
After reading the news completely, I have learned that when any addiction causes a mental disorder, then automatic aversion to that addiction is created. A streamer's repeated streaming about gambling and criticism by netizens may have caused him to develop a negative attitude toward gambling and lose all control over himself, so he committed suicide.
When such an addiction instead of giving people pleasure, when they face hatred, people do not have control over that addiction, instead they find easy ways to commit suicide and kill themselves. There are many gamblers in our society who became so deeply addicted to gambling that now most of them are seen as drug addicts. So I cannot in any way consider a bad addiction like gambling as a means of entertainment or income.

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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.
You'll never understand them. I don't want to commit such and it's not on my radar but, these people that have reached the peak of their emotional being that they can't get ahead of it and can't remove the thoughts that they're thinking at that point.

Most of the situations that I have read about a gambler ending their lives were like they've been in debt and in just a few spin or bet, they lose it all.

They don't know where they're going to get their payment but it's their problem and hard to heal from that. Such situations are easy to assess but if it's already personal and you're in the actual situation, it's hard to imagine how you'd deal with it when your mind is blowing and can't get the right thinking.

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March 20, 2024, 10:34:31 PM
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The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 
Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

Yes and also when they manage to get the audience that enters through the referral link that they share and I think they only spend time in terms of their work as a casino promotion agent because as you said and I think it is true that the money that we see is very large that they make the capital is actually money from the casino or you can say it is also fake money that cannot be withdrawn and can only be played, but it doesn't matter because their goal is to make the audience tempted by the big wins they managed to get which in the end is what makes people enter through the referral link that is shared.

On the other hand I don't know if there are other funds or other income they get but what I know for sure is that they will get a large enough fee for their agreement with the casino and after that they will also get an additional bonus from the number of gamblers who lose, or simply put they get a few percent share when the gamblers who enter through the referral link they share lose, and yes maybe the problem for them is in terms of subscribers, because that can reach more people to watch the shows that are done.

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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.
Influencers and advertisers who promote gambling frequently do so in a deceptive or misleading way. They may disregard the risks involved or make false promises about the potential rewards. Not just the influencers, Many gambling companies also use predatory marketing practices to lure people in. They may offer freebies or bonuses to get people started, and then gradually increase the stakes, making it harder and harder to walk away. This is a serious problem.
Well then I think the problem is actually from the gamblers then, because I believe if you are discipline and strick with your gambling habit then all these promotions and promises wouldn't be of any challenges to you because you would already be on the mentality that you have a specific gambling rules which pushes you farther away from getting stuck in chasing losses or winnings in any casino that you involve yourself in gambling.

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March 20, 2024, 10:50:28 PM
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The streamer should not be blamed, thos is because as a gambler one need to understand the health states, and knowing what risk you can take and that your health can handle, let say for someone who is having high blood pressure, he or she should stay away from anything that could trigger the heart to beat fast, and gambling results could definitely put someone under that kind of tension, so it best to stay away from gambling if you have any underlying health issues.

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March 20, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.
Sometimes most people add other life challenges to what they experience from gambling streams, which will place their depression on another level. So most people don't just commit suicide because they watch streamers lose games or because they play and lose a large amount of money to gambling.
 
But they do this after they have calculated everything they are passing through, and they might just think there is no point for them to stay alive again.
 
Better yet, they take their lives to stay alive and still continue that suffering. All such people need is someone who can talk them out of that and show them there is more to life than just taking their lives, which will cause their family more harm than they can ever imagine.

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March 20, 2024, 11:03:49 PM
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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

I agree that it's annoying, and somehow I feel bad that the streamer doesn't show any sympathy to that guy, at least, knowing the person is one of his avid fans and following him. But generally, it's not the streamer's fault that it happened. We don't know the real story behind it and maybe the person does have lots of problems already aside from gambling addiction.

I also don't like streamers but what a bullshit if we allow ourselves to be influenced by these streamers. It should be obvious from the start that these streamers, especially those who are gambling, only care for money. Why become weak and be under these streamers? We should be the ones to control our decisions, not them.
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March 20, 2024, 11:07:05 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel about streamers because I do enjoy watching some of them. The content can be quite entertaining. I don't enjoy the big fake streamers such as xposed, trainwreckz(might be misspelled), Drake's fake stream for stake, Rosh, or any of the guys that are wagering $1000 or more per spin. Anyone who believes they are wagering that amount daily and not caring might not be ok in the head. They are doing a show for the gambling site and being paid for their time, the money you see being wagered is nothing but pure air.

The smaller streamers with real emotions involved are however very entertaining as the wins and losses they go through are directly tied in with the money they might make. Anyways, this isn't about my likes or dislikes.

The 1 thing I do like about a streamer such as trainwreckz is the fact that he tells people he is down millions and not to gamble. People should have to have some sort of disclaimer to let people know they are for entertainment only IMO. Might save someones life.

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March 20, 2024, 11:09:45 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

If you wanna explain to a 14 year old what fake lifestyle looks like point them to a gambling streamer for they are a perfect example of people living a mirage type of life. And this has really affected negatively the lens of the young people who follow these streamers on social media platforms about gamble, which has ruined them. The government has to call to order the attitude of these streamers because all it appears they care about is the money they making from whatever they chose to stream not putting into consideration the implications to their fans especially those with weak minds.

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