Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction

[uneng]

-snip-

The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.

The streamer didn't have any solidarity for the fan who suicided because for him, it meant only one less view for his videos... This is how these influencers see their publics: as numbers, exclusively!

Numbers which raise them to the pantheon of most popular internet's celebrities, bringing fame, money and the false sense of being a demigod walking over the Earth. They do anything to maintain their status, never caring at all for the people who really maintain them on the throne of dust they don't want to be vanished, because on the influencers' subverted mind, they belong to a superior category of human beings.

And unfortunatelly they are where they are only because there is a massive number of people who follow these guys and treat them as their lords, including the man who suicided... After all, if the audience were doing something productive with their lives, streamers like Adin Ross would also have to do something productive in his own life for a living, instead of foolishing and deceiving people on the internet!

[1714279490]

1714279490

[1714279490]

1714279490

[1714279490]

1714279490

[1714279490]

1714279490

[redsun114]

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

Mate, take a break and get yourself relaxed. Your life is much more important than this activity of yours, think about the people who love you, and never think of doing such a stupid thing because you will go but those who are here will stay in pain throughout their lives. Gambling is nothing, think of it this way and I'm sure you will be able to get away from it with time. You are stronger than what you think of yourself but you need to believe in yourself.

The reason why you are not being able to quit gambling is because you think about it too much, stop thinking about this, and try to focus on things that are more important in your life. You must have a family, think about them, spend more time with your family and friends, and I'm sure you will get out of this problem one day soon.

[Quidat]

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

Mate, take a break and get yourself relaxed. Your life is much more important than this activity of yours, think about the people who love you, and never think of doing such a stupid thing because you will go but those who are here will stay in pain throughout their lives. Gambling is nothing, think of it this way and I'm sure you will be able to get away from it with time. You are stronger than what you think of yourself but you need to believe in yourself.

The reason why you are not being able to quit gambling is because you think about it too much, stop thinking about this, and try to focus on things that are more important in your life. You must have a family, think about them, spend more time with your family and friends, and I'm sure you will get out of this problem one day soon.

On the time that you are on the verge of addiction then it would really be that too damn hard for you to realize or think up those things on which you would really be that giving out that kind of
thinking that these things wont really be that important specially if you are on the condition on which problems are really that on extreme extent on which you would really be having those thoughts that this is something that cant really be resolved out but rather you would really be just that only trying out to kill yourself or having that suicide to be your most viable option left.
On this state then it would really be that impossible that you would really be thinking of people who are really that thinking or loving you on which it would be a common approach
those kind of emotions on which you would really be having those kind of thoughts and views that no one loves you specially on the time that you are on such state.

[junder]

In my opinion, people who are influenced by streamers don't seem to be able to think straight, they think that what the streamers are doing is right with wins that are easy to get by just gambling and can make money, they don't think that it's just tricks and tricks so that they believe and believe they can make a win or money by gambling, and the streamer's goal is profit, where the more people who believe and gamble at the advertised casino, the greater the profit the streamer will get.

When they have been trusted by streamers to gamble, they will not think about the risks, especially when they have started to become addicted to gambling. They will continue to gamble without thinking about the risk of defeat and loss that will occur more often with the gambling they do, and it is true that if they are already addicted, they will likely take actions that are not considered first, so that these actions cause them to experience their own losses. In my opinion, to take action, you have to pay attention and consider it first, not just in gambling, other things are the same. Decision making or actions must be considered so that major losses do not occur.

It's true what you say chasing losses is basically useless, we won't get what we want, it will only complicate matters and there will be a lot of losses there and this factor is also influenced by big emotions about what happens because of expectations. not in accordance with reality and agree with you, if we have experienced defeat once or twice then take the positive side, namely from our experience that gambling results in more losses than wins, then we can use this as motivation and valuable experience so as not to lose. excessive gambling.

Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

[AprilioMP]

-
What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Streamer becomes a service job from there he earned income with a contract of agreement. I don't blame those who work as streamers when there are fans of a fan of killing themselves because of addiction.
Fans who like a streamer already know that the spectacle will not apply if the one watching does the same thing as they watch.

If we are addicted, that's where a disaster begins.
No wonder the effects of addiction can lose their lives because such events have crossed the limits of a human awareness.
The suicide incident due to addiction is not a rare thing, but as I recall, there have been many events exposed by the media about the effects of gambling addiction.

[madnessteat]

^

People become suicidal for many reasons and the main one is that they don't want to solve problems, they choose to get rid of problems forever in the easiest way possible. What they don't realize is that they're pushing the problems onto their loved ones. Just imagine the grief that the mother of a person who takes her own life because of some problem. I have always believed that any problem can be solved, you just have to want it and make an effort. Suicide is not a solution, no matter how serious the problems are.

[Asuspawer09]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Probably it all adds up to the point of taking his own life, I mean for sure addiction could actually be a huge problem in the long run but I dont think it is going to be that easy or just because of money someone is going to take his life. I'm sure other problems add up besides his frustration with gambling making him take this kind of action, as long as you get a lot of support probably from your family there is always a way to recover from losses.

There are lot of influencers and streamers that gamble online actually, I've seen a lot of facebook live and it seems like that gambling was getting really popular to a lot of streamers and as well as trading cryptocurrency, I remember last time most of the streamers are mostly playing NFT games but it seems like it wasn't profitable anymore so they migrated to online gambling already, that just means that there are a lot of gambling website that is offering a lot of influencers theses days which can be concerning considering there are possible children watching.

[taufik123]

Suicide is one of those stupid shortcuts, there is nothing justified for this ridiculous act.
Seeing the fact that many of them commit suicide due to gambling addiction,
this makes us as players or even gambling fans have to be careful and always do good management for funds and on our psychology.

Seeing how infatuated others are when gambling, it is an early indication of how they will become addicts.
The streamers seem to master the gambling game, look to have a lot of money but in reality they bear a lot of losses and in case of problems they do not find a solution to solve it.

Even gambling addiction will have more complex effects, having multiple loans for gambling and further compounding the problem.

It is quite sad when seeing many incidents of gambling addiction like that, as a person who is responsible for yourself,
you must be aware of what is being done, be aware that gambling is just entertainment and do not use money too much.

It's actually not the gambling that is wrong, but the individuals who can't control themselves.

[topbitcoin]

How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

[Zoomic]

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

I see people putting blames on  the streamer for influencing the death of one of his fans. We cannot restrict everyone from doing what they deem best for them. There are several other contents on the Internet,  TV and other places that can actually influence lots of people to gamble even way beyond their limit. It is left for the the gambler to stay focused so as not to get motivated unnecessarily to gamble till they get addicted.

Every gambler is responsible to himself. When addiction sets in, he and those around him suffer the consequences and not the streamers, casinos or other mediums he gets his motivation from. The fan who took his life must have suffered depression to the point taking his own life seemed like the best option. Stories like this should serve as a deterrent for other gamblers who gamble like their lives depend on  it.

[zuzie]

Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

Yes, because expectations that are too high make streamer fans forget about the bad things they will get in the future because they only see and imitate streamers who they are proud of or trust because of their ease in winning gambling and in fact the streamers will also definitely lose if they only upload it to social media only when they win and there is no way they show their loss.
I agree with you that it is best to gamble according to your financial capabilities because this is a safe step and is far from the impact of bad risks as you mentioned, namely getting into debt, committing suicide, etc. Such incidents result from uncontrolled gambling.

[stomachgrowls]

Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

Yes, because expectations that are too high make streamer fans forget about the bad things they will get in the future because they only see and imitate streamers who they are proud of or trust because of their ease in winning gambling and in fact the streamers will also definitely lose if they only upload it to social media only when they win and there is no way they show their loss.
I agree with you that it is best to gamble according to your financial capabilities because this is a safe step and is far from the impact of bad risks as you mentioned, namely getting into debt, committing suicide, etc. Such incidents result from uncontrolled gambling.

On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

[zuzie]

On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

Yes, that's true and I will add a little fact that in my opinion streamer fans do not have a consistent sense of self-confidence because they can only imitate the behavior of other people, namely their favorite streamers, even though they are not. have it behind them. not necessarily according to what he sees on social media.
And we really have to pay close attention to this, we can imitate the streamer's steps with notes that make sense to imitate and we can also use as a reference or analysis in playing gambling with precise and correct rules.

[Psynthax]

How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

[Rampagoe004]

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

I agree with you. Most gambling streamers cheat their viewers with big wins and 50%+ winrate. I see many gambling streamers who keep winning and we know gambling is about winning and losing. You can't make money from gambling. It's just for fun and if you hit the jackpot it's your bonus. The streamers seem to have collaborated with gambling sites to provide big wins and always get jackpots with big bets when they are streaming. If you say gambling streamers are a plague, then the sites that collaborate with them are also a plague because they try to cheat their viewers.

[junder]

On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

Yes, that's true and I will add a little fact that in my opinion streamer fans do not have a consistent sense of self-confidence because they can only imitate the behavior of other people, namely their favorite streamers, even though they are not. have it behind them. not necessarily according to what he sees on social media.
And we really have to pay close attention to this, we can imitate the streamer's steps with notes that make sense to imitate and we can also use as a reference or analysis in playing gambling with precise and correct rules.

The possibility is like that, when they see a streamer and like it then it could be that they will do the same thing, to get the same results. But of course, in gambling, the name cannot be ascertained, even though the streamer mentions that it is certain, can, guaranteed to get an easy win, it is just a tactic. Don't get an easy win, just getting a win once is difficult if we don't have luck in gambling. It is also not recommended to imitate the gambling that streamers do, including the tricks or patterns they share. That's just fraud.

But even so, don't be completely motivated by the streamer, because I think gambling is done by ourselves, the fear is that when we fully follow the streamer but the results are opposite, we blame others or the streamer, even though gambling is done by ourselves, actually it is the right of each individual, it's just that we have to know the limits, not because the streamer easily wins while we who imitate all the directions or steps from the streamer get defeated, sometimes it's annoying why we have to follow the streamer.

[slapper]

How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

Man, our thoughts are warzones. Every action, every phrase, can stir deeper emotions. Streamers are on the frontlines, with insane influence. You're right regarding audience understanding. However, it's not ideal protection. Older people recognize life is a hard war you must win alone. Suicide? It's a method to hurt everyone else and leave them floundering without you

Streamers' fandoms mirror them. Negativity spreads like a disease. A terrible loop. Our situation isn't hopeless. Choose. Choose who and what we consume and absorb. Becoming an army of independent thinkers rather than followers is everything

[coin-investor]

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Some streamers are deceptive and manipulative and they don't care about their followers all they care about is the number of people that will sign up using their code.

This is why I don't watch these streamers, they make it appear it's ok to lose huge money because there's always a chance that you can recover it.

But we must admit they are a big help to casinos to get more leads, they offer streamers money and bonuses to stream their platform, but with the way they sometimes do extreme streaming these controversial streamers will eventually lose the platforms they stream.

[Beparanf]

Some streamers are deceptive and manipulative and they don't care about their followers all they care about is the number of people that will sign up using their code.

This is why I don't watch these streamers, they make it appear it's ok to lose huge money because there's always a chance that you can recover it.

But we must admit they are a big help to casinos to get more leads, they offer streamers money and bonuses to stream their platform, but with the way they sometimes do extreme streaming these controversial streamers will eventually lose the platforms they stream.

Because encouraging and entertaining their viewers is their job to let them stay and at the same time get an additional profit with referrals in exchange for their time and effort for streaming. They are not charity but rather just working in this kind of industry. They are like the new era of artist that provides entertainment with their content.

Winning big or losing big is what the most typical highlights that viewers usually wants to watch on stream that’s why they always focusing on it. The most important thing for the, is they are using disclosure about gambling responsibly on their stream since it’s already known that the money they are using are fake.

[topbitcoin]

~

..............

Every gambler is responsible to himself. When addiction sets in, he and those around him suffer the consequences and not the streamers, casinos or other mediums he gets his motivation from. The fan who took his life must have suffered depression to the point taking his own life seemed like the best option. Stories like this should serve as a deterrent for other gamblers who gamble like their lives depend on  it.

Of course, every individual is responsible for all actions and decisions they take. and it is true that the media has a strong influence on a person's behavior, especially if that person is very vulnerable and easily influenced. And with all the limitations that each individual has, we all need to know that not all individuals have the same ability to overcome external influences, including the influence of spammers and gambling-related content.

and you are right that we must be able to learn from experience, which is not only personal experience, but also the experience of other people. We need to learn this, none other than to prevent ourselves from irresponsible behavior and other things that we do not expect.

the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

Because they were born before us, with the various experiences they have, perhaps they can better understand how to solve a problem and find the best solution, rather than having to end their lives in vain. and therefore it is quite important, when we have a problem that we are not ready to handle, it would be good if we explain the problem to the people closest to us who are considered more mature than us. because by telling stories, even though we don't get the best solution, at least this can make us a little relieved.

And regarding attacks on gambling streamers, they should be able to take responsibility for every content they create. But rather than arguing with gambling actors, it would be better if we were able to process all the information we get as well as possible, so that we would not be easily influenced by negative things that could harm us.