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March 26, 2024, 04:17:03 AM
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But even so, don't be completely motivated by the streamer, because I think gambling is done by ourselves, the fear is that when we fully follow the streamer but the results are opposite, we blame others or the streamer, even though gambling is done by ourselves, actually it is the right of each individual, it's just that we have to know the limits, not because the streamer easily wins while we who imitate all the directions or steps from the streamer get defeated, sometimes it's annoying why we have to follow the streamer.

Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

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March 26, 2024, 06:18:21 AM
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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

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March 26, 2024, 07:21:05 AM
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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.

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March 26, 2024, 08:21:31 AM
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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.

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March 26, 2024, 01:03:11 PM
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How I love that Gambling streamers should take responsibilities in those sadness that comes from their works in gambling industry because indeed that they are the reason why these happens.
sadly  this is still happening in my country up to now and I hate seeing addicted growing in my locations and even youngsters are being victim of their streams luring people to gamble.

That's sad; another gambler lost his life due to gambling addiction. The image of gambling is getting worse because of this news. As for other people, gambling actually helps because, for others, it not only gives stress relief but also gives fun.
there is no issue when people enjoy and having fun in gambling but the problem is when you invest so much into this that you can ruin your own life just because of gambling and that is what we must not have in life.

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Just don't let us overdo it with gambling, because when it's not controlled, we develop an addiction that other gamblers don't realize. But I hope other streamers will also be responsible because they are also the reason why other viewers can gamble because of their promotion, which is also mixed with creativity.
wish this is easy said than done mate.

but we cannot act that easy when we are the one that involves in gambling so much , i have tasted this in the past mate and trust me it is so hard to achieve .

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March 26, 2024, 02:24:14 PM
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People become suicidal for many reasons and the main one is that they don't want to solve problems, they choose to get rid of problems forever in the easiest way possible. What they don't realize is that they're pushing the problems onto their loved ones. Just imagine the grief that the mother of a person who takes her own life because of some problem. I have always believed that any problem can be solved, you just have to want it and make an effort. Suicide is not a solution, no matter how serious the problems are.

You've said it right. Indeed, people who take their own lives commit one of the gravest crimes possible. The extent of the grief they inflict upon their relatives and loved ones is unfathomable.

Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

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Each one of us makes the final decisions on a subject based on our own motivations. Streamer can open gambling for a person, but before gambling each of us should study this topic on our own. Only then can we make decisions about what money we are willing to risk. Apparently, this young man did not want to study this topic on his own and therefore simply did not calculate his risks. I also believe that streamers advertising gambling should not be held responsible for the actions of others.

For example, I can watch some videos on Youtube now about margin trading. Open a position with 100 leverage on one of the crypto exchanges and get liquidated in a few hours. I don't think the author of one of the videos I watched will be guilty of anything. 

The situation is exactly the same there.

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March 26, 2024, 04:30:05 PM
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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.

I would feel okey enough with those streamers if they actually showed some proof of them using their own money to gamble and bet instead some fake money or bonification a given by the casino. It would be also refreshing if there was some way for the streamer to show to his fans that his game/software is not set up for him to have better results than I would get if I decided to sign up to the same casino he is advertising.
There is nothing wrong with doing some advertisement for a service like a casino, the problems start when those streamers and shady small casinos cross the line of deceiving their viewers and make them believe their can change their lives by gambling and earn much money. That is when these things turn unacceptable.

I wonder if someday, the government of the United States and the European Union will dare to place some basic rules for streamers of gambling content, on those points. So it would be harder for viewers to create false expectations for themselves and gambling.  Sad

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March 26, 2024, 04:42:43 PM
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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.
True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

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Rightly said there is no point in blaming the gambling steamers. If we can control ourselves, these misinformation advertisements of the steamers will not harm us. Advertisements do this to boost their campaigns. Avoid mistakes and consider payment options and betting opportunities before betting In the end it's not just about the odds but the overall betting experience. Overall safety and reliability are essential ingredients for a safe betting journey.
Suicide is never what we should know about, there are other ways to resolved matters. There are essential sectors in the system, we just need to be to be extremely careful and not embedded in grant sections. Taking his own life due to addiction, for this awful incident to happen, he had taken think about the necessary actions and the repercussions. We avoid mistakes in the system and pass through the eligible process. The odds are important, but we should always levelled the system with necessary odds, it generates gigantic profits.
When all kinds of pressures come together, it becomes very difficult for us to make the right decision. As you said suicide is never a solution but a person under such pressure finds it easier to commit suicide. A person who commits suicide is a person who has made the decision to commit suicide after multiple attempts have failed. Up until the moment before committing suicide, the victim thought that death would be easier for him because of his depression. When a man's back is against the wall, his wisdom does not work very well and when he cannot find the right path, he decides to commit suicide. It is true that a person who commits suicide does not care about the world but his dependent family members are going through a lot of problems.

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March 27, 2024, 02:38:32 AM
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In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.

It's a shame that many people easily believe what streamers do, but it's definitely an interesting thing when you see people getting big wins at gambling and giving the steps, but they believe too much so they can't differentiate between what's real and what's just just manipulate. when they believe in streamers they don't think about the downside, their brain nerves are filled with fantasies of winning only. with thoughts that only think about winning, they actually set themselves up for addiction and other problems.

Too much trust is also not a good thing, when we believe we can win with the steps given by the streamer it can make us put aside our awareness, we will only think about winning, even when the gambling ends in defeat we still think about winning. so it continues like that until all the money is gone, and because the brain's impulses are filled with gambling wins, any action will occur that encourages us to make money, even if it is a big risk. Indeed, there are many gamblers who are in debt because they want to complete the thought of winning at their gambling. If they never get a win, it makes them stressed, so when that happens, there is a possibility that they could end their life because of excessive pressure, but this happens because of their actions. I was also wrong from the start.

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March 27, 2024, 03:18:57 PM
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True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

Because it is part of the streamer's job to create or create illusions or content whose aim is to attract the attention of people who see it so that he makes money here. Yes, basically it won't be easy for a gambler to win, they will only be cheated or lied to by the streamer because the person who wins or loses has the right to issue it is the host himself even though the gambler takes over. If the streamer has taken the correct and appropriate steps, the results are still very doubtful. I agree with you that the best decision is from within yourself, not from other people's experiences whose truth is uncertain.

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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.

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March 27, 2024, 03:26:53 PM
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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.
The answer the that question is not far fetched since we already know that most of the streamers doesn't gamble on real games, at least according to speculations because we have seen how the experience of the streamers on the live video shows are always different from what the real gamblers experience at some point of time.


The ability to just doctor the show is what is their aim and once they got that audience and attention they will always control the mindsets of they followers just like in this case, streamers have alot to hide from the public and only display the positive display making their activities to feel as if it real and end good results meanwhile, some of those scammers never bet in real life, it all for the content.

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March 27, 2024, 03:44:21 PM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This case means that live streaming is not a basic reference for gamblers. It can be used as a guide to encourage users to win in the gambling arena, This proves that the fan who committed suicide certainly had a reason, maybe he was frustrated or something else due to the effects of watching him stream online on social media.

I often see my friends, after they watch streams on TikTok or Instagram, without thinking twice they immediately start gambling and I see they never get good results, In fact, we get losses, so gamble as much as we can and gamble according to the knowledge we have. Don't put your hopes and heavy addiction to streaming. We might lose control and end up ending our lives if it doesn't live up to our hopes.

Gamble what we have, remember streaming is not the main capital for you to win, let us control ourselves when gambling, that might be better.

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March 27, 2024, 04:43:24 PM
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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.
You could really be able to make out such assumption that this might really be that somehow been fixed or somewhat rigged and this is why some people or some gamblers would really be having that
kind of urge when it comes on playing gambling because they've seen that those streamers are really that winning and this is something which is really that make that kind of boost up into someones emotion.
This is why it would really be making out those kind of assumptions that its been fixed up or simply those people are really having that huge account balance and thats why they do really play like
on having those huge bets and thats why when they do win then it would really be something significant and that would be giving that kind of boost up.

This is why it would not be shocking that these streamers doesnt really that minding much about others condition about into its viewers whether they do have ended up on having a gambling problem or not.
We do know that its their job and its normal that they would really be that focusing into something that they would really be needing to do.

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March 28, 2024, 12:00:12 PM
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True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

Because it is part of the streamer's job to create or create illusions or content whose aim is to attract the attention of people who see it so that he makes money here. Yes, basically it won't be easy for a gambler to win, they will only be cheated or lied to by the streamer because the person who wins or loses has the right to issue it is the host himself even though the gambler takes over. If the streamer has taken the correct and appropriate steps, the results are still very doubtful. I agree with you that the best decision is from within yourself, not from other people's experiences whose truth is uncertain.
Every gambler must know that when they are gambling it will not be so easy for them to win because they think it is simple but in reality the result will not be as simple or in their favor. If a gambler gambles without thinking that they can lose by gambling then my comment is that they don't understand anything about gambling, they are only motivated by others and they are taking big risks like gambling. Gambling is not as easy as gamblers think gambling is. A person does not commit suicide immediately, he thinks that suicide is not the right decision for him till the moment before he commits suicide, but he is under pressure from which he cannot come out and he takes such a decision. If we have gamblers around us who risk their lives on gambling then we should bring them back to normal life.

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March 28, 2024, 12:37:07 PM
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Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

I agree. People should realize that it’s mainly our choices that lead us to where we are presently. We could be influenced and motivated to take some actions you ordinarily wouldn’t,, but in the end, no one actually forced the individual to take those actions that led to suicidal thoughts and behavior. We should consider being more responsible for our actions and not try to run away from the outcome.

It may become a big problem for the influencer and perhaps the platform itself being used when 50% and upwards of his fans and followers become suicidal after having listened and encouraged by the streamer to do whatever.
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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.
That is a common trick by these influencers and they show to their viewers of how easily they won the bets but in reality, that is impossible for casual players.
I ain't falling into this trick as we have been gambling for many years and the chances never change. As a gambler, we should know when to stop and limit our time in gambling because the more we are doing this, the bigger the chances of getting into addiction. Following these so-called gambling experts makes no sense because they are the reason why many gamblers get in trouble for believing that they are true to what they have spoken.



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March 28, 2024, 01:14:55 PM
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Every gambler must know that when they are gambling it will not be so easy for them to win because they think it is simple but in reality the result will not be as simple or in their favor. If a gambler gambles without thinking that they can lose by gambling then my comment is that they don't understand anything about gambling, they are only motivated by others and they are taking big risks like gambling. Gambling is not as easy as gamblers think gambling is. A person does not commit suicide immediately, he thinks that suicide is not the right decision for him till the moment before he commits suicide, but he is under pressure from which he cannot come out and he takes such a decision. If we have gamblers around us who risk their lives on gambling then we should bring them back to normal life.
Yes, that's right, luck to win at gambling is actually very difficult to come by, but for gamblers who don't have good knowledge and understanding of gambling, it will make it easier for them to take wrong actions in every gambling session.
It could be that gamblers who commit suicide because they lose too much and have too many problems in their lives will take shortcuts such as committing suicide, but this is very unfortunate because it does not use common sense but is a very stupid thing. scary.

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