How can we help beginners not to get addicted

[nullama]

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If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

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[junder]

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

when someone has gambled once and maybe they are curious to try it again and continue like that, it is possible that they could become addicted to gambling, if they are aware that this can make them addicted to gambling then they will restrain themselves from gambling by diverting their thinking. They are like what you said, when they want to gamble but are aware of the impact, they do other things that keep themselves busy, the aim of which is to eliminate the desire to gamble. but not everyone has this kind of awareness. Usually those who are addicted to gambling will continue to gamble until there is no end to it.

but indeed, if done consistently or with discipline, maybe this can help, by forcing ourselves to avoid gambling activities when we really want to gamble by diverting our thinking about wanting to gamble. and if you still want to gamble, hopefully you can set limits, have your own rules for what you do to prevent losses that could have a big impact on us.

[Jody.Drummer]

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If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

Yes it might work, but I think it's unlikely because after all we can never rule out the many temptations that exist in gambling which are mostly and overall always the initial trigger for gamblers to feel curious until in the end they try again and yes return to the situation of regret. In fact, they already know that most likely the results at the end of the session will definitely be the same as before, namely losing but this is only easy to say and difficult to do, none other than because the temptation in gambling does look very tempting and difficult to miss.

Especially if they are irresponsible gamblers or they are losers who come with the intention and purpose of winning which when losing then usually they will be emotional and unable to accept the situation which is clear that what they will do next is chase defeat to restore something that has been lost, although it is quite impossible but curiosity and emotions based on desperation have a very strong impetus so that in the end there is only one decision that is to realize satisfaction and not think about whatever will happen at the end especially experiencing a much bigger loss.

[murkyz]

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

[TopTort777]

Imho beginner will either get a light form of addiction, which is probably just an excitiment for something new in his life and easy way how to earn, but by the time he gambles more and more, he will turn into matured gambler who will realize all the consequences of frequent gambling and will not get addicted in the end. Or he will not get hooked by gambling at all and not even get a light form of addiction.

Imho it is enough to give few tips about addiction in the beginning, and if person is not stupid, he will make conclusions out of that.

[arjunmujay]

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If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

Yes it might work, but I think it's unlikely because after all we can never rule out the many temptations that exist in gambling which are mostly and overall always the initial trigger for gamblers to feel curious until in the end they try again and yes return to the situation of regret. In fact, they already know that most likely the results at the end of the session will definitely be the same as before, namely losing but this is only easy to say and difficult to do, none other than because the temptation in gambling does look very tempting and difficult to miss.
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The biggest temptation for gamblers is indeed their own greed. they will never be enough with what they have gained, or do not dare to accept defeat.

since I use online gambling, usually handle this kind of thing by looking away for a moment. because if I focus too much, of course I will keep playing. When I look away from the gambling screen, I still have time to think more positively.

[danherbias07]

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If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Yes, it is the same with any other behavior, it is one day at a time.

If you want to exercise, just go, one day at a time. If you want to quit alcohol, just do it one day at a time.

It's the same with gambling. If it is a problem, then you can try not gambling, one day at a time.

It is important to do something else that is enjoyable for you instead of gambling. That way your mind will be busy in other things.

Oh, I like that approach. One at a time.
Truly, we cannot rush things if we want change but when it comes to addiction, in my experience the best way is to stop in a snap. I did it with my smoking habit. I can finish 10 sticks of cigarettes per day and when I drink alcohol I can finish a pack. One day my brain just keeps on thinking about my kids and I don't want them to smell the secondhand smoke in me. They are also getting sick many times so I stopped. It had been 5 years since my last smoke.
But I think it will be different when it comes to gambling. Some do prefer they can still play in the times when they are bored and I think that's fine as long as we know our limits. Sports betting might be the best way to control gambling habits because you don't have to be in front of the computer the whole day.

[madnessteat]

If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

I thought we were talking in this thread about helping newbies not become gambling addicts. Based on this I conclude that in order to fully learn to control themselves during gambling novice must spend a lot of time and effort. As a result, it turns out that at the initial stage, almost every gambler will lose more than he expected, trying to recoup past losses and make mistakes. And as you know, this can lead to gambling addiction. Does this mean that we can not warn newcomers from gambling addiction at the initial stage?

[ethereumhunter]

If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

I thought we were talking in this thread about helping newbies not become gambling addicts. Based on this I conclude that in order to fully learn to control themselves during gambling novice must spend a lot of time and effort. As a result, it turns out that at the initial stage, almost every gambler will lose more than he expected, trying to recoup past losses and make mistakes. And as you know, this can lead to gambling addiction. Does this mean that we can not warn newcomers from gambling addiction at the initial stage?

I agree with @madnessteat that saying novice must spend a lot of time and effort to have self control because that thing can prevents or avoids novice from the risks of playing gambling. Playing gambling gives risks to all people, including novice but the risks will be bigger for the novice because they will lack of all needed to enjoy the gambling. If novice can learn many things that's needed while playing gambling, they will not have to lose much money and they will also knows when they must stops playing gambling. They will not becomes addicted to gambling because they can avoids that before happens to them. But unfortunately, not many novice realizes this and many of them gets deeper in gambling without seeing that they have a problems that needs to solve.

[teamsherry]

Addiction is a tricky thign at times they never know they are addicted until its already too late, just like someone who starts smoking or drinking, at times it could take do long for some to get addicted and others lesser.

The best way to reduce Addiction amongst beginners is to let then know the potential loss that gambling addiction can cause them and teach them how to control themselves, it's wrong to chase losses, but do you know when you are? These are questions that beginners should know and realise that such habits can lead them to incurring losses in gambling. So yeah I vote for education.

[panjul07]

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

Even if you know the math behind casino games or probability behind casino games, it wont help you to avoid addiction.
Addiction is more about mindset, emotion, and everything on how you deal with your own gambling habit.
Lets say you do not know the math behind the game, but you are so good in controlling your own gambling habits, you'll be able to avoid addiction.
Of course knowing the probability is good, because it will raise the awareness that our winning chance in gambling is smaller than the losing chance.

[Franctoshi]

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

Even if you know the math behind casino games or probability behind casino games, it wont help you to avoid addiction.
Addiction is more about mindset, emotion, and everything on how you deal with your own gambling habit.
Lets say you do not know the math behind the game, but you are so good in controlling your own gambling habits, you'll be able to avoid addiction.
Of course knowing the probability is good, because it will raise the awareness that our winning chance in gambling is smaller than the losing chance.

Obviously, you are right ,I kind of agree with you very much with how you control your habit towards gambling, In general self control is something we shouldn't take for granted in all we do, this way you won't do things that will push towards addiction, Therefore, for newbies to avoid being addicted to gambling they must avoid couple of things like, greed and avoiding risking way much than what they can lose, because risking too much triggers people to start chasing loses when they lose money and this further graduates them into spending much time than what they should spend gambling, and Addiction now becomes the resultant effect.

[Accardo]

Addiction is a tricky thign at times they never know they are addicted until its already too late, just like someone who starts smoking or drinking, at times it could take do long for some to get addicted and others lesser.

The best way to reduce Addiction amongst beginners is to let then know the potential loss that gambling addiction can cause them and teach them how to control themselves, it's wrong to chase losses, but do you know when you are? These are questions that beginners should know and realise that such habits can lead them to incurring losses in gambling. So yeah I vote for education.

Yes, educating newbie gamblers is the right option, but the challenging aspect of it is that not all new gamblers are exposed to learning or close to an expert who would guide them on ways to be responsible. I only wonder why they get to learn about chasing loss but fail to see or hear from anybody about gambling responsibly. Despite being written boldly on the casino. From the reaction of players towards losses, it proves the emotional defeat gambling has on the players. We all lose money differently in life, but not everyone cares about getting them back. Reverse is the case in gambling.

An increasing number of players tend to go after their losses involuntary, against their control. Those impulses drags both the newbies and experienced gamblers, alike. Hence, when helping new gamblers avoid dreadful losses, it's crucial the new player works closely with an expert. Education involves reading, and practical approach. Although, some smart people can learn by reading alone, yet in gambling when those self control factors are not practiced. It's as good as not reading at all. In a nutshell, such new players who don't have any experienced player close by, need to stay close to online gambling communities where most relatively confusing experiences of his will be handled and made clear

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

Even if you know the math behind casino games or probability behind casino games, it wont help you to avoid addiction.
Addiction is more about mindset, emotion, and everything on how you deal with your own gambling habit.
Lets say you do not know the math behind the game, but you are so good in controlling your own gambling habits, you'll be able to avoid addiction.
Of course knowing the probability is good, because it will raise the awareness that our winning chance in gambling is smaller than the losing chance.

I totally agree with your explanation, @panjul07. I find it strange for someone to think that addiction can be escaped when one is able to know the math behind winning and losing. 

@murkyz, It's even possible to know the math behind game odds and still lose your bets mercilessly. Most of the time, some people argue that blackjack is a game which requires a good skill of the gamblers as to make more wins, so people suggest that blackjack gives a 50% chance of winning. If you look at it closely, 50% is not even a great chance of winning because the game is still based on a 50/50 chance to lose and a 50% chance to win, so anytime the luck comes to the gamblers, that's when he or she will win the game. 

Addiction starts in the mind, when a gambler has a misconception about gambling, believing that he or she can make money through gambling or that he or she can win jackpots and make an abrupt amount of money over night, which can make them a millionaire overnight. Gambling addiction starts in different ways, and the only way a newbie can overcome it is to first realize themselves and acknowledge the fact that they are either deeply or gradually becoming addicted. 

[Slow death]

A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much

People know that the chances of winning are very small, but the fact that they see news on TV and in the newspapers saying that someone bought a ticket for $1 and won 5 million dollars makes many people decide to also buy lottery tickets. . in casinos and the same thing, people hear on TV, newspapers and on the internet talking about someone playing in a casino and leaving the casino very rich, people don't even want to hear about failure stories, as soon as they look at some news talking about someone lost a lot of money gambling, people stop reading and don't finish reading and immediately forget this type of news.

Because the truth is that people already know how to live is difficult and they avoid hearing sad stories, they want to hear about stories involving someone with nothing and who managed to become very rich. Of course, this way of thinking is not right, it is always good to be interested in people's stories of successes and failures, so that we can get a sense of the mistakes that other people have made and how to be able to avoid making such mistakes too.

and the only way a newbie can overcome it is to first realize themselves and acknowledge the fact that they are either deeply or gradually becoming addicted.

Gambling addiction is a disease like alcohol and drug addiction, see that consuming alcohol does not make anyone rich, consuming drugs does not make anyone rich, having a lot of sex does not make anyone rich. So why are there hundreds of people addicted to alcohol? So why are there hundreds of people addicted to drugs? So why are there hundreds of people addicted to sex? The reason is simple: when people have a lot of problems in life, they look for a way to forget about those problems, which is why they consume a lot of alcohol or drugs or sex or take up gambling because they believe they are having a lot of fun with those things. they will be able to forget about their problems and this leads to addiction. So to avoid addiction it's simple: be happy. happy person, person who has many ways to have fun does not become addicted

[irhact]

Yes, educating newbie gamblers is the right option, but the challenging aspect of it is that not all new gamblers are exposed to learning or close to an expert who would guide them on ways to be responsible. I only wonder why they get to learn about chasing loss but fail to see or hear from anybody about gambling responsibly. Despite being written boldly on the casino. From the reaction of players towards losses, it proves the emotional defeat gambling has on the players. We all lose money differently in life, but not everyone cares about getting them back. Reverse is the case in gambling.

An increasing number of players tend to go after their losses involuntary, against their control. Those impulses drags both the newbies and experienced gamblers, alike. Hence, when helping new gamblers avoid dreadful losses, it's crucial the new player works closely with an expert. Education involves reading, and practical approach. Although, some smart people can learn by reading alone, yet in gambling when those self control factors are not practiced. It's as good as not reading at all.

That is a very big challenge especially for individuals that live in rural areas where they're not exposed to experts that could guide them on how to gamble responsibly. Not all individuals are exposed to the Internet or have devices where they could get information, they do go to the betting shops to carry out their  gambling activities. Well I think the management of those gambling shops are in the right position to create awareness and help guide such individuals to gamble responsible.

  You're are right though, experience they say I the best teacher, one doesn't need to be very smart to learn how to be a responsible gambler, that's why it's wise for someone new into gambling to seek advise from experts or those that's good better experience in it before taking some unnecessary risks. I think most individuals fall victim to gambling irresponsibly because of greed which leads them to start chasing loses.

[Betwrong]

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Hm, interesting perspective. To me it almost sounds like "Gamble away, folks, and don't think about the possibility of getting addicted!"

In my ten years' long gambling adventures, the main thing that keeps me from falling into addiction is that I always remember the possibility of it. I would suggest to the beginners in the world of gambling to never forget about this possibility and keep checking periodically whether they are not there.

You are right, as long as you gamble with full awareness when doing so, I think you will avoid addiction. Because only we ourselves know or recognize our gambling situation and everything will be related to awareness so as not to get carried away by the atmosphere of the game and being able to control ourselves when there are signs of excessive gambling activity. Or stop immediately when you experience several defeats, and awareness will help in anything related to negative impacts or addiction.
So in my opinion, beginners must instill and practice to get used to playing with full awareness before getting involved in gambling so that they are the ones who have the ability to master the game, not you who are controlled by the game.
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Good words. Indeed, do not let the game control you if you don't don't want to get addicted to it. Gambling is our entertainment, so, it's reasonable to not be controlled by entertainment, isn't it? It's always a bad thing to want more and more entertainment in your life. You become like some bad character in fairy tales then.

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Yes, it's true that it's a perspective that I think is quite confusing, because the advice is still within the gambling circle - instead of banning it altogether ~

I wouldn't suggest banning it altogether, but thinking that focusing on not becoming addicted to it will lead to addiction is absurd in my opinion.

[$crypto$]

Imho beginner will either get a light form of addiction, which is probably just an excitiment for something new in his life and easy way how to earn, but by the time he gambles more and more, he will turn into matured gambler who will realize all the consequences of frequent gambling and will not get addicted in the end. Or he will not get hooked by gambling at all and not even get a light form of addiction.

Imho it is enough to give few tips about addiction in the beginning, and if person is not stupid, he will make conclusions out of that.

Beginners will be eager to gamble even though at the beginning it is for fun or you say it is trying something new but believe me the more often you gamble this will be addictive no matter how much money you lose in essence gambling is prone to addiction.

I feel how it used to be as a beginner who gambled with the intention of not playing in a row when losing, but curiosity and lust are what makes it easier for us to deposit again.

But it doesn't matter if he is well disciplined in the sense that one week only gambling $20 or below stays at that limit then I consider it still a normal limit.

[Accardo]

Yes, educating newbie gamblers is the right option, but the challenging aspect of it is that not all new gamblers are exposed to learning or close to an expert who would guide them on ways to be responsible. I only wonder why they get to learn about chasing loss but fail to see or hear from anybody about gambling responsibly. Despite being written boldly on the casino. From the reaction of players towards losses, it proves the emotional defeat gambling has on the players. We all lose money differently in life, but not everyone cares about getting them back. Reverse is the case in gambling.

An increasing number of players tend to go after their losses involuntary, against their control. Those impulses drags both the newbies and experienced gamblers, alike. Hence, when helping new gamblers avoid dreadful losses, it's crucial the new player works closely with an expert. Education involves reading, and practical approach. Although, some smart people can learn by reading alone, yet in gambling when those self control factors are not practiced. It's as good as not reading at all.

That is a very big challenge especially for individuals that live in rural areas where they're not exposed to experts that could guide them on how to gamble responsibly. Not all individuals are exposed to the Internet or have devices where they could get information, they do go to the betting shops to carry out their  gambling activities. Well I think the management of those gambling shops are in the right position to create awareness and help guide such individuals to gamble responsible.

  You're are right though, experience they say I the best teacher, one doesn't need to be very smart to learn how to be a responsible gambler, that's why it's wise for someone new into gambling to seek advise from experts or those that's good better experience in it before taking some unnecessary risks. I think most individuals fall victim to gambling irresponsibly because of greed which leads them to start chasing loses.

Greediness is famous amongst gamblers due to the losses they have incurred. Satisfaction is not guaranteed in money. Nobody who has lost money in gambling wouldn't want to win some more. Trust me, most newbie players think gambling has no procedural process for staying mentally sound or stable in the game. No one has ever told them about this. Not until I read a book authored by a gambling expert, I never thought about safety in gambling. Similarly lots of gamblers are not connected to the right source of gambling information.

Literally, a new gambler thinks he'll get through the process with no problematic development. Assuming people were told or informed about the risk of gambling blindly, they would have consulted an expert before engaging into gambling. Some responsible new players begin to seek help when the trouble begin to increase. I think the newbies who get addicted never asked for help at the very first beginning of the problem. When they're still emotionally stable enough to control themselves and abide by the instructions ushered by the expert.

[EarnOnVictor]

I think it is because they don’t set limit on their gambling behavior, that’s how it grows out of hand. It can happen to anyone because we’re all humans and have emotions, so it’s best to set limits/restrictions which will call you back to your sense when you are lost in trying to recover your losses or when you are becoming greedy (cause that sometimes is the beginning of the loss).

It takes willpower to set yourself limits and not break them. I myself use this practice and I'll be honest sometimes I really want to get some more money on the casino deposit to continue gambling. Most of the time I manage to avoid it, but again at this point I have to fight with myself. Therefore, I believe that helps not only limit the deposit, but also self-control gambler, because replenish the deposit casino nowadays can be replenished in a few minutes. It is important not to give in to this desire at the moment of temptation.

If it is a habit already then you’ll have to battle with yourself to do what is right, and sometimes you may not really do the proper thing. But what matters is that you constantly keep trying to follow the disciplined path. If you set a limit, do whatever it will cost to follow that goal. At first it’ll be difficult but over time, it gets easier and you’ll be used to doing what you say you will do.

Well said, but to be more precise and accurate, it is best for gamblers to keep it in their minds that they must have a very quality disposition towards gambling. They must be refined gamblers with the mindset that gambling is not a do-or-die affair, and that it is never the avenue to make money, so it is not a place where desperation should be allowed to thrive. If these minds can be observed, then it will be lovely for the gamblers to forge ahead in their gambling quests. With that mentality as well, the gambler should now look for the right strategy that will be more than average in delivering quality results. This is however not difficult to get, especially in sports betting. But the gamblers must tabulate their gambling style and plans further, which will include the gambling session, the time to start and finish betting, the amount to gamble as a whole and the portion of the whole sum that must be wagered per bet to avoid excessive gambling.

This is just to ensure the quality managerial aspect of gambling for it to allow restriction on the overconfidence that can entrap the gambler to cause losses. Going forward, the gambler needs to now manage himself very well. This is very important because if you can't manage/control yourself, no matter what you know about gambling, it will still amount to nothing. This is where the discipline comes in, and with good habits and plans set already, it will be easy for such gamblers to actualize the goal.