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May 28, 2024, 03:38:55 PM
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Maybe it would be even better to show the worst that can happen when gambling. That's something that casinos definitely don't want to be seen.

They only show the good parts. Also gamblers will always just share their wins, never their losses.

If someone is OK with that, then fair enough. At the end of the day everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their lives.

Showing the bad sides of things can be a good way to educate too
I remember when I was a kid I didn’t want to use the seat belt and then my parents asked a police officer to talk with me and showed me a crashed car, the police was quite a nice guy and then my child brain understood a bit better that not using seat belt

Yes showing the bad side and showing real evidence of bad events is probably a pretty good idea to make gamblers understand the dangers of gambling if done in the wrong way and I think there will be some gamblers who really consider that and then absorb it in their brains following by planning a better approach to gambling such as focusing more on various limits in terms of budget and time involvement or also expectations on winning.

On the other hand, the idea might work but it might not, because there are always some gamblers who are really stubborn and difficult to advise or set an example for, they continue to follow their wrong beliefs, and this is why there are always some people who have to experience the downfall first to finally experience a change in themselves.

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May 28, 2024, 03:47:37 PM
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It is really because of different feelings that whoever has money indulges in gambling addiction. When a person keeps winning money repeatedly from gambling he becomes addicted unknowingly because it is considered as the best way to earn money and become rich. Otherwise, everyone is interested in gambling knowingly because there is a source of losing or making double money. Gambling companies will always look for the best way so that they can catch a lot of gamblers. The more you become addicted to gambling the more those companies can increase their profits.

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May 28, 2024, 08:02:39 PM
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It is really because of different feelings that whoever has money indulges in gambling addiction. When a person keeps winning money repeatedly from gambling he becomes addicted unknowingly because it is considered as the best way to earn money and become rich. Otherwise, everyone is interested in gambling knowingly because there is a source of losing or making double money. Gambling companies will always look for the best way so that they can catch a lot of gamblers. The more you become addicted to gambling the more those companies can increase their profits.

Undesirable bad things always have a big possibility of happening when they don't understand what activity they are actually doing, or what this means is that when a gambler only knows that gambling can give them a win while ignoring other aspects of gambling such as the risk of losing then it is clear they will have no restrictions on gambling, usually as we know that addicted gamblers will continue to gamble while they have money and in fact they always use loans as an alternative to fund their gambling activities when they don't have money, and all this happens due to the large encouragement from hope and belief in victory, or they think that the results at the end of the session will be as they expected, even though it is clear that overall winning in gambling always depends on luck.

So the beginning of addiction is when they don't understand gambling as a whole, because if they know that gambling is high risk and there is no way to guarantee a win then they certainly won't dare to take excessive actions such as gambling with a budget that exceeds their budget. its limits, and another thing we have to understand is that most casinos apply an algorithm where the percentage of losses is always much greater than the chance of winning so it makes sense that now more and more new casinos are popping up and that proves that gambling is a profitable business for them .

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May 28, 2024, 09:33:21 PM
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It seems to me that we cannot influence in any way those who have come to gambling or betting, and are trying to make money in this way, or arrange emotional fun for themselves. We don't know the past of every person, maybe someone is genetically predisposed to addiction, maybe someone had a difficult childhood...
There are a lot of factors that correct personality behavior, and we cannot know them.

That's why I think it's enough for beginners to show videos about healed gamblers, but they can't be influenced in any way.

Maybe it would be even better to show the worst that can happen when gambling. That's something that casinos definitely don't want to be seen.

They only show the good parts. Also gamblers will always just share their wins, never their losses.

If someone is OK with that, then fair enough. At the end of the day everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their lives.

Showing the bad sides of things can be a good way to educate too
I remember when I was a kid I didn’t want to use the seat belt and then my parents asked a police officer to talk with me and showed me a crashed car, the police was quite a nice guy and then my child brain understood a bit better that not using seat belt
Then how you would really be making someone to show up some devastation of someones life because of gambling? Google? Videos? Yes this could work but if they wont really be able to see actual
things then they wont really be able to see but of course it would really be just that depending into a certain individual because  there are ones who arent that hardheaded and would really be
tending to welcome out others suggestions and recommendations without any issues but there are ones who would really be that following into the things that they do have in mind.
This is why for those who do listens then good for them but if not then it would be ending up on a disaster.

Bitter experience would be the ones will be the best thing that you would be able to make those kind of realizations because listening out other peoples suggestions would
really just that past up into your ears or you wont really be putting any care at all.

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May 28, 2024, 09:44:46 PM
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It is really because of different feelings that whoever has money indulges in gambling addiction. When a person keeps winning money repeatedly from gambling he becomes addicted unknowingly because it is considered as the best way to earn money and become rich. Otherwise, everyone is interested in gambling knowingly because there is a source of losing or making double money. Gambling companies will always look for the best way so that they can catch a lot of gamblers. The more you become addicted to gambling the more those companies can increase their profits.
Yes of course, it's understanding that every gambling site needs traffic in their platform, so when you're playing gamble frequently and you are experiencing loss almost everytime, it's clear that you are enriching the platform of that particular gambling platform, so many people who chases after their loss don't know that the more they are chasing loses the money they are enriching the platform because for them to win when you are chasing loss is very slim, so we don't need to be chasing our losses because is one of the things that contributed almost hundreds percent of someone getting addicted with gambling.

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May 28, 2024, 09:55:12 PM
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The reason why many people cannot recover from gambling is because of their mentality that does not allow them to stop.

They can stop the hype that they felt during the games and that's what most people suffer after they go out there, especially in our country where people don't have much to kill time and the only thing they know is to gamble and they always comes up with some idea and make animals fight each other to make a bet with it. I cannot blame them since that's the only thing they know and think of it as a good idea but they don't know about its reality and the bad consequences that brings to their lives which they will know when they start to sell every valuable properties they have just to fund their addictions which was happened to most people here.
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May 29, 2024, 05:34:15 AM
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What I think is that we have to be very tactful when talking to these people, because if we don't get along very well with them we could be in trouble with them, we have to know well what they like, or at least what they like the most. to find the ideal words to be able to say them, then sometimes you have to enter very tactfully so that a bad performance does not occur and that person, instead of us giving advice and becoming friends, do not go to achieve the opposite because there It's worse, so before speaking I think you have to be very intelligent to find the right words to enter tactfully.

There's nothing special about the system, we should always become careful because the slightest mistakes will make one record losses when money is involved. Beginners know exactly what they signed up for and they will do their best for the purpose not to learn it the hardware. I've come to realized how smooth gambling have become all these years and a very promising sector for those of the gamblers that do have a nice strategy to trigger for enormous profits for ourselves.

Well, in most cases, we can say, better mind your own business. I would prefer to give a piece of advice if they ask for it. If not, let them be. They will learn their lessons on their own time. We can't force some newbie to follow the rules in gambling if they haven't experienced it yet. Most of the time, you will understood such reminders if you happen to experience it on your own. So give them their own space and learn from their mistakes on their own accord. It is better this way as such learning will be instilled in their minds.

In any case that always happens, when we try to give advice in a kind way and they make us see that it is not our problem because they are not us and they have to go through their own experiences, then sometimes one refrains from saying certain things because in In reality, the money belongs to those people, and they have the right to see how they can manage and place bets in a casino. Those who want to listen to advice and, above all, apply it, will become very wise. Where I live there is a saying that says: "He who takes advice, grows old" and it is very true, always the people who have the most experience are the ones who can teach us best.

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June 03, 2024, 07:00:55 AM
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Ideally, the dangers of gambling entertainment should be talked about in some format as early as high school. Young people should realise that there are no free ways to get rich, and that some effort is required everywhere. One in a million can become rich just like that (unfortunately, I do not have exact statistics). And this must be kept in mind and do not forget when you dive headlong into gambling entertainment.

Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.

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June 03, 2024, 07:51:45 AM
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Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.

Gambling is a different type of entertainment though.

First of all, it is way more expensive per hour than other entertainment options.

Second, the "feel good" part of it is addictive, so you want more and more.

If you watch a game, once it is finished you are usually satisfied, same with a movie, show, dinner, etc.

With gambling it is different. It is designed so that you always want more.

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June 03, 2024, 08:00:07 AM
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Ideally, the dangers of gambling entertainment should be talked about in some format as early as high school. Young people should realise that there are no free ways to get rich, and that some effort is required everywhere. One in a million can become rich just like that (unfortunately, I do not have exact statistics). And this must be kept in mind and do not forget when you dive headlong into gambling entertainment.

Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.
Beginners needs to know this, and they should not go into gambling because of what they see on social media about people who won huge amount of money in gambling. Some are true and some are not, it is not easy to win a huge amount in gambling, and that is why gamble should be done for fun.

Likewise, beginners should know that the money lost cannot be recovered, because gambling is not a business that losses can be recovered but it is an activity done to try one's luck, and if you are not lucky, you just let go without thinking twice because it is a game. Little amount of money should be used for gambling at all time to avoid emotions on your loss.

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June 03, 2024, 08:14:23 AM
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It is really because of different feelings that whoever has money indulges in gambling addiction. When a person keeps winning money repeatedly from gambling he becomes addicted unknowingly because it is considered as the best way to earn money and become rich. Otherwise, everyone is interested in gambling knowingly because there is a source of losing or making double money. Gambling companies will always look for the best way so that they can catch a lot of gamblers. The more you become addicted to gambling the more those companies can increase their profits.
Yes, it's true that anyone who has money and gambles will definitely be addicted to gambling, so it's not always beginners who will be addicted to gambling, even someone who often gambles can be addicted to gambling, people have different characters and their perspectives too, so in my opinion, manage your gambling time and budget. so as not to exceed the limit, the more consistent we are with it the more difficult it is for us to become gambling addicts, usually people who are smart in limiting their gambling time and budget will definitely know better when they should gamble and when they should stop gambling.

If we talk about casinos and gambling sites, it is clear that they like the more people who are addicted to gambling, the more money will come into their coffers, so that may also be the reason why casinos and gambling sites never get involved or help a site that supports it. healing for people who are addicted to gambling because that is how their money enters the coffers of casino owners and gambling sites. Everyone already knows about it, it's just that they are more focused on gambling and hope to beat the dealer but they can't beat him at all.  Grin

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June 03, 2024, 08:20:04 AM
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Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.

Gambling is a different type of entertainment though.

First of all, it is way more expensive per hour than other entertainment options.

Second, the "feel good" part of it is addictive, so you want more and more.

If you watch a game, once it is finished you are usually satisfied, same with a movie, show, dinner, etc.

With gambling it is different. It is designed so that you always want more.

I would not call gambling as more expensive entertainment. This still individually. Gambler can win during that hours and end with profit. Gambler can bet 1 sat all the time. A single movie theatre visit can cost more if you take all the options. That "feel good" part with time can turn into "fed up with gambling". If you watch sports and make a bet, when game finishes you are, as you say usually satisfied, and I doubt that gambler will want to gamble more, since the game is over.

So from this I can make such and advice - place bets only on beloved team. This you will support it, be engaged into gambling, and gambling will be pause when the game is over. Such kind of gambling wont turn into none-stop gambling, like with slots or table games.

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June 03, 2024, 08:57:59 AM
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Ideally, the dangers of gambling entertainment should be talked about in some format as early as high school. Young people should realise that there are no free ways to get rich, and that some effort is required everywhere. One in a million can become rich just like that (unfortunately, I do not have exact statistics). And this must be kept in mind and do not forget when you dive headlong into gambling entertainment.

Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.

Exactly that's a nice point mate, most newbies in gambling are normally convinced by the wins they normally encounter via social medias because most people normally showcase only their wins via social media making newbies to think that they can easily get rich through gambling fast. Which is a wrong mindset when it comes to gambling.

That's why the best advice one should give a beginner Is to tell them to always gambling wisely and also show them the good and bad
(like one can easily get addicted to gambling it not handle well)  part about gambling, not focusing only on the good part .

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Exactly that's a nice point mate, most newbies in gambling are normally convinced by the wins they normally encounter via social medias because most people normally showcase only their wins via social media making newbies to think that they can easily get rich through gambling fast. Which is a wrong mindset when it comes to gambling.

That's why the best advice one should give a beginner Is to tell them to always gambling wisely and also show them the good and bad
(like one can easily get addicted to gambling it not handle well)  part about gambling, not focusing only on the good part .

Spot on.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if someone is earning a lot of money doing something, they usually are going to keep quiet about it.

If you think about it, there's basically no incentive for them to make a video about it. Why bring competition?

That makes you realize that most of these videos and promoters are basically only making money from the videos themselves and not from the gambling they are doing.

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June 04, 2024, 12:52:35 PM
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Exactly that's a nice point mate, most newbies in gambling are normally convinced by the wins they normally encounter via social medias because most people normally showcase only their wins via social media making newbies to think that they can easily get rich through gambling fast. Which is a wrong mindset when it comes to gambling.

That's why the best advice one should give a beginner Is to tell them to always gambling wisely and also show them the good and bad
(like one can easily get addicted to gambling it not handle well)  part about gambling, not focusing only on the good part .

Spot on.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if someone is earning a lot of money doing something, they usually are going to keep quiet about it.

If you think about it, there's basically no incentive for them to make a video about it. Why bring competition?

That makes you realize that most of these videos and promoters are basically only making money from the videos themselves and not from the gambling they are doing.

In some cases they have an incentive to talk about it. I can think about two situations
1. The source is drying up soon and the person can monetize a bit more, like squeeze the last bit of profit on a strategy that will probably be obselete soon
2. Some strategies benefit from more people following them like some trading strategies

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The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

 I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding.  Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

Its the awareness entirely,naturally,before ever we want to get something or do something,we are always adviced or been given an advice towards the set plan/goal,Whether good or bad.The awareness that they have puts them in charge of their thoughts,decisions and actions.

Once someone hears the word gambling,that word extremely places an individual with a very high anxiety and lust.Whenever you introduce someone to gambling also coach him/her to be able and available to take responsibility for their behavior.
It's very understandable that gambling is toxic and one should be guided about the risks,gains and losses.Know when its appropriate to get help,advice,and informations on how to use to right tools for a safer gambling.
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Its the awareness entirely,naturally,before ever we want to get something or do something,we are always adviced or been given an advice towards the set plan/goal,Whether good or bad.The awareness that they have puts them in charge of their thoughts,decisions and actions.

Once someone hears the word gambling,that word extremely places an individual with a very high anxiety and lust.Whenever you introduce someone to gambling also coach him/her to be able and available to take responsibility for their behavior.
It's very understandable that gambling is toxic and one should be guided about the risks,gains and losses.Know when its appropriate to get help,advice,and informations on how to use to right tools for a safer gambling.

Apart from that, when taking actions or decisions it is of course better to consider them carefully first. with those who are beginners who usually don't think about the losses that will occur, they can do whatever they want without thinking about the exact risks that will occur with the gambling they do, and with those who don't think about the risks that will occur, they usually easily become addicted and as a result makes them addicted to gambling by not being able to stop gambling, even though they lose at gambling, but because they have become addicted to gambling they will return to gambling to bet again.

I agree with what you said, when we introduce someone to gambling then we have to be able to introduce them well by telling them everything so that nothing untoward happens, but I myself would not do that, I would not introduce someone to gambling, even if If they want to do it, I'd better remind them not to do it even if they insist, maybe it's just advice and after that it's up to them.

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June 04, 2024, 04:53:41 PM
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Exactly that's a nice point mate, most newbies in gambling are normally convinced by the wins they normally encounter via social medias because most people normally showcase only their wins via social media making newbies to think that they can easily get rich through gambling fast. Which is a wrong mindset when it comes to gambling.

That's why the best advice one should give a beginner Is to tell them to always gambling wisely and also show them the good and bad
(like one can easily get addicted to gambling it not handle well)  part about gambling, not focusing only on the good part .

I don't do blamw cane's for newbies because today ways of gambling, it's full of making money and making money, there is nothing really fun to begin with but we all pretend that's the main thing that make everyone to gamble but when you check very well, it's all about money these days. So when a new person joined, instead of them to learn how to maximize their skills to win, they will gamble everything continuesly untill they waste all that money and they continue like that till addiction set in.

It's really the responsibility of a gambler to understand gambling and casino responsibility to help a new gambler but because money is always the motivation of the two parties, nobody have time for that, the casino want to make money as possible and the gambler also want to make more money as possible, no time for learning and the person that suffer the most is the gambler because the casino is the one at the receiving end always.

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June 05, 2024, 01:35:01 PM
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I don't do blamw cane's for newbies because today ways of gambling, it's full of making money and making money, there is nothing really fun to begin with but we all pretend that's the main thing that make everyone to gamble but when you check very well, it's all about money these days. So when a new person joined, instead of them to learn how to maximize their skills to win, they will gamble everything continuesly untill they waste all that money and they continue like that till addiction set in.

It's really the responsibility of a gambler to understand gambling and casino responsibility to help a new gambler but because money is always the motivation of the two parties, nobody have time for that, the casino want to make money as possible and the gambler also want to make more money as possible, no time for learning and the person that suffer the most is the gambler because the casino is the one at the receiving end always.

Yeah, that's 100% the responsibility of the person doing the gambling.

Yes, it might be a tricky thing, yes, it might be tough on the people, but that is just how the game works.

There is nothing anyone else can do to help, it is just them vs the odds, which are against them. That's it.

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June 06, 2024, 06:34:12 PM
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Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted
It's hard, but it's still possible for them not to get addicted to gambling.

The fastest way is to not involve themselves into gambling at all. This is hard especially when the person is curious on how gambling works, and he's also seeing tons of winnings coming from other people. It's hard for them not to get involved into gambling because these might attract them to try it as well hoping that they will win.

Now that online gambling is gaining popularity and on a fast pace, it's hard for beginners not to get addicted into gambling. For me, I think the best way is to teach them the negative side of gambling. Teach them how gambling can affect one's life negatively. Teaching them the negative effects of gambling might be a reason for them not to try it at all. For addicted ones, this might be hard to do, but for beginners, this can be easily done I believe.

I don't think not getting involved at all is such an useful technique
I mean, observe other things like sex and drugs
you can tell teenagers to do what you think it right about it, but the best way is teaching them about the risks (and rewards) and giving them knowledge about it

though for some drugs I'd agree that the best way is staying away completely.

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