Streaming community are getting worst!!!

[angrybirdy]

This is dangerous if they show up some fake winning result since there would be a lot of guys will be interested to try what the guys do to see if they can also get the same large winning result.  

Do not believe in everything we watch in the internet. That's why people should educate themselves about such gambling stream or gambling in general. As I said before in this thread, if there are many people get attracted to try because of big win shown in the gambling stream and they believe that will get the same big win but they do not aware that gambling is all about luck or do not know that losing chance is big then it is their own fault.

Well said! Not all we watched in the livestreams are true, some of them has been using a set up account in order for them to show pure winnings only while advertising the gambling game that they promote. That type of livestreaming can really attract their prospect users because money is involve in that game and People nowadays are easily believe what they watch or read even if they haven't studied it yet, what more if they watch it from people they admire and trust? We know that usually the fans of an influencers really follow or imitate what they see in their idols.

[ethereumhunter]

I think we cannot prevent that from happening, and as long as they are not making any illegal thing, they should be allowed to continue doing their thing. They just want people to sign up and make money from their, that's the reality in the world we are living now.

However, we should not condone them because they are just doing their job to earn a living, and as long as gambling is not illegal in our country they have every rights to promote it. What the government should do is to educate people, about the risk of gambling, and IMO, that's the only solution, not ban.

We can't prevents that from happening but we can prevents that happens to us. If we can take care of ourselves and always be careful with anything we watch or read, we will not gets tricks by them. We will knows what we needs to do if we watch the video or anything else so we don't gets tempts like other people. It's better we use something that can avoids us watch the streamer that we don't wants.

They doing like that to make money but with wrong ways. We can only protect ourselves with search for much information about that thing so we don't get tricks. The governments needs to educates people but we must take care of ourselves so nothing bad will happen to us while we watch the video from the social media. But it's a personal decision to follows those streamers and if we can be careful, we will not be like them.

[Maslate]

I think we cannot prevent that from happening, and as long as they are not making any illegal thing, they should be allowed to continue doing their thing. They just want people to sign up and make money from their, that's the reality in the world we are living now.

However, we should not condone them because they are just doing their job to earn a living, and as long as gambling is not illegal in our country they have every rights to promote it. What the government should do is to educate people, about the risk of gambling, and IMO, that's the only solution, not ban.

We can't prevents that from happening but we can prevents that happens to us. If we can take care of ourselves and always be careful with anything we watch or read, we will not gets tricks by them. We will knows what we needs to do if we watch the video or anything else so we don't gets tempts like other people. It's better we use something that can avoids us watch the streamer that we don't wants.

They doing like that to make money but with wrong ways. We can only protect ourselves with search for much information about that thing so we don't get tricks. The governments needs to educates people but we must take care of ourselves so nothing bad will happen to us while we watch the video from the social media. But it's a personal decision to follows those streamers and if we can be careful, we will not be like them.

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

[Negotiation]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

       -     You know honestly speaking here in our country almost all our local streamers in gambling online are deceivers. why did i say because almost all of the ones they show live streaming are replay videos.

then they show it live while they are live, and what they say is a lie just to fool their viewers to make it appear that what they are showing live gambling play is true. so they are not really good influencers actually, instead they hook viewers.

I agree that these streams are not to be trusted when it comes to online gambling they provide wrong information most of the time. Live streaming is a method of data transmission in gambling which is a strategy to attract customers when someone watches a video on the Internet. It is a way to distribute a video file bit by bit at a time often from a remote storage location.

[passwordnow]

This is true, there is no problem if these streamers will have a disclosure that they're promoting a casino and the kids or whoever is in not at the right age shouldn't patronize and gamble. It's only for the adults that have jobs and can sustain their gambling enjoyment. Otherwise, it's not for all the audiences of the streamers that are doing their thing and livelihood through that craft they have. There are many responsible and as well as irresponsible viewers that the streamers can't control but the same goes to them when they don't tell a lot of facts about the casino that they promote.

Most of the time, they'll be given some demo account and it's going to have a lot of money on it and letting the fans think that they've got a lot of money deposited in there. But little did they know, it's not what they think. All of the money that are into that account of streamers are actually activated by the casino themselves and they're just demos so that they can show it to their viewers on what kind of gamblers they are. Another twist is this, the chance of winning of those streamers account are very much high compared to the accounts of the customers that will try to sign up under them. It's just so crazy and the marketing level is on a different level with that because they want to take advantage of those streamers that has a wide engagement.

Streamers are delicate. They must entertain and pay the bills, which is difficult. Flashy demo accounts with cash? The picture is deceiving, right? These accounts are rigged to lure you in. Smart marketing, but dishonest.

I agree, they're not to blame here as that's how they do it with their livelihood but with sort of deception with how they market a casino. That's how many have been hooked thinking that those cash they're winning are for real and could also happen to them. It's really a marketing strategy that many don't realize it and they're biting that way of marketing so they think that the chances that these streamers are getting are also going to come to them.

Not all streamers are to blame. Lack of upfront disclosure is the issue. Simply saying "Hey everyone, I'm getting paid to promote this" is enough. Knowing the score, adults could choose. We need true transparency with kids. They must realize that what they see isn't everything. Education and protecting the vulnerable

I have seen a lot of them that are disclosing that they're sponsored by a casino and always get to the point at the end to gamble responsibly and moderately. So, with that, they know that everyone that should gamble because they've promoted the casino needs to be responsible as well and they never lack of reminders to them. Yes, they earn money from these promotions but not all of them are having that sense of responsibility for the fans that they're going to drag into the casino and deposit and becomes addicted later on. They don't think of that much because many of them think about the affiliate and commission that they're going to get from them later on.

[Dewi Aries]

We can't prevents that from happening but we can prevents that happens to us. If we can take care of ourselves and always be careful with anything we watch or read, we will not gets tricks by them. We will knows what we needs to do if we watch the video or anything else so we don't gets tempts like other people. It's better we use something that can avoids us watch the streamer that we don't wants.

They doing like that to make money but with wrong ways. We can only protect ourselves with search for much information about that thing so we don't get tricks. The governments needs to educates people but we must take care of ourselves so nothing bad will happen to us while we watch the video from the social media. But it's a personal decision to follows those streamers and if we can be careful, we will not be like them.

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

Honestly I would agree with you if the stremers promoted the casino or site only to people who were already involved in gambling, but the fact is that it is not like that where most of their targets are ordinary people who never know about gambling and are just people - people who are still unfamiliar with the bad effects of gambling, the stermers show something that looks very tempting, namely how easy it is to get large amounts of money just by gambling so it is clear who doesn't want to get big wins like that so this is what drives people who never know about the real bad facts that exist in gambling to enter and get involved with very high hopes and confidence to be able to get big wins like the stremers get.

As you said, we will assume that what the stremers do is normal because it is a business and we say that because we already know everything but what about ordinary people who really don't know? Of course it is very likely that they will become victims of impulsive gambling because in their minds they are focused on getting big wins, and I understand that what should be promoted is "responsible gambling" but this is not promoted by them.

[ethereumhunter]

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

Yes, as I said it before, we must be careful with all of we see on the internet. Many people doing something regards of what they wants without thinks about what happens to other people and as long as they can gets what they wants, they will continue to gets for more. It's our jobs to prevents the bad things that comes in front of us by always carefully and always filter what we gets so we don't have to gets the impact. With research, we will knows if that thing is what we looking for or we needs to search for more because that thing is not what we wants. We must have responsibility in gambling so we don't gets many problems like other people and we can enjoy playing gambling. After all, we must take care of ourselves from the things that we don't knows.

[EarnOnVictor]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling

Sell their dignity to promote gambling? How? Is it not for the money nowadays for everyone, I mean getting as much money as you can? You show your talent, you get paid for it one way or another. Why are they doing that in the first place if not for the benefits, and do you think it is for the passion alone? Even if you have that passion and you can utilise the passion well to also make more money, won't you go for it? I do not see the dignity they are soiling here. For me, they are even dignifying themselves better for making more money. Some of them are basically being promoted by these companies you said they sold themselves to. Do you know how much the promoters are giving them annually? You will be amazed at the payslip of some of them. Some of these guys have turned these streaming games into a full-time career, do you want their career to impoverish them?

In all senses of reasoning, I see nothing wrong here. As they use their talent and capability, they entertain you and the promoters use the opportunity of their platforms to announce their presence (adverts). It is a win-win for everybody in my opinion. It is now left to anyone to register with their sponsors or not. However, if the arrangement is not comfortable for you, you may stop watching the streamer forthwith. But I will always view that decision as cruel because it is harmless to you, just do whatever you want to do and ignore the ones you do not want to participate in. I see tens of adverts daily on websites, platforms and videos, but they've never been my issues because I have my focus and purposes and the objective of visiting those channels which can never be compromised by ads.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, as I said it before, we must be careful with all of we see on the internet. Many people doing something regards of what they wants without thinks about what happens to other people and as long as they can gets what they wants, they will continue to gets for more.

This part is very important, because no one worries much anymore whether Actions hurt them or not, so in this order of ideas we are people who are always going to establish many things, first, the nature of an influencer is to help, it is to Guide, It is that your Community is on a safe path, and if an influencer begins to carry out advertising projects that are scams, casinos or casino-scams, that is very bad, it makes people lose money, but they sell for a few Dollars , and that is not good, an influencer should never be carried away by emotions and greed, for them they must first be their People , they Cannot do things so that Others lose and the influencer Wins, that is why now everything is based on an influencer Be honest and lead your community to a better path of Greatness.

[Accardo]

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

Yes, as I said it before, we must be careful with all of we see on the internet. Many people doing something regards of what they wants without thinks about what happens to other people and as long as they can gets what they wants, they will continue to gets for more. It's our jobs to prevents the bad things that comes in front of us by always carefully and always filter what we gets so we don't have to gets the impact. With research, we will knows if that thing is what we looking for or we needs to search for more because that thing is not what we wants. We must have responsibility in gambling so we don't gets many problems like other people and we can enjoy playing gambling. After all, we must take care of ourselves from the things that we don't knows.

Yes I'm in support of promoting responsible gambling enough to reach out to young people on same social media. If you look at it those influencers or streamers don't care much about responsible gambling. Or some of them only wants to make money without reducing the rate at which their viewers get themselves involved in addiction. It's meant to be balanced, since they own more fellowship and viewers, such medium are also the right place to place ad about gambling responsibly.

But it seems nothing huge would be benefited by promoting responsible gambling. Yet it's the right thing for the growth of a responsible society. With consistency more underaged people and new gamblers will get prepared properly before engaging in gambling. I've not seen anyone doing it, aside some personal interest boards established for promoting responsible gambling.

[STT]

All that needs to be true from a stream is the game being played is the same game available to anyone.   I see no problem with watching a stream of gambling, decide if you want to watch or not and the decision is on you as an adult.  Why it became controversial is a mystery, theres a stream of a log burning on stream and thats been a classic broadcast going back decades and its perfectly harmless.  Do I support forest fires no, but people can burn a log if they feel like it and put it on steam and so to gambling.  I'd only dispute it as deceptive if the game odds were not true to life, if its a different game not available to the public in any way.

[angrybirdy]

Yes, as I said it before, we must be careful with all of we see on the internet. Many people doing something regards of what they wants without thinks about what happens to other people and as long as they can gets what they wants, they will continue to gets for more.

This part is very important, because no one worries much anymore whether Actions hurt them or not, so in this order of ideas we are people who are always going to establish many things, first, the nature of an influencer is to help, it is to Guide, It is that your Community is on a safe path, and if an influencer begins to carry out advertising projects that are scams, casinos or casino-scams, that is very bad, it makes people lose money, but they sell for a few Dollars , and that is not good, an influencer should never be carried away by emotions and greed, for them they must first be their People , they Cannot do things so that Others lose and the influencer Wins, that is why now everything is based on an influencer Be honest and lead your community to a better path of Greatness.

influencers should be the ones who give inspiration to their viewers to do the right thing or to improve themselves or their lifestyle. For me, if you are an influencer, you should be a role model for your fans because what you do, it is possible for them to imitate it but it depends, there are others like influencers who use their popularity to earn money , let's not clean it up but most of them really have that goal, to make more money even if the exchange is to give bad images to their viewers.

[seoincorporation]

influencers should be the ones who give inspiration to their viewers to do the right thing or to improve themselves or their lifestyle. For me, if you are an influencer, you should be a role model for your fans because what you do, it is possible for them to imitate it but it depends, there are others like influencers who use their popularity to earn money , let's not clean it up but most of them really have that goal, to make more money even if the exchange is to give bad images to their viewers.

You have a good point here, the streamers should be a good example for their viewers, but the main problem about the gambling streams is the fake balance, we see some streamers placing insane bets of $50,000 each BlackJack hand and some people believe that's real money, but that's where the problem starts, the money isn't even real, they have a deal with the casinos to play with bonus money who has a roll-over. In other words, what they show is a lie. And that isn't cool at all.

[ethereumhunter]

This part is very important, because no one worries much anymore whether Actions hurt them or not, so in this order of ideas we are people who are always going to establish many things, first, the nature of an influencer is to help, it is to Guide, It is that your Community is on a safe path, and if an influencer begins to carry out advertising projects that are scams, casinos or casino-scams, that is very bad, it makes people lose money, but they sell for a few Dollars , and that is not good, an influencer should never be carried away by emotions and greed, for them they must first be their People , they Cannot do things so that Others lose and the influencer Wins, that is why now everything is based on an influencer Be honest and lead your community to a better path of Greatness.

We as the audience needs to be wise when we watch any videos from the influencers and make sure that the video we watch is not gives a bad effect to us. The influencers can gives any videos they wants to attract more visitors to their channel but everything will be the audience responsibility to avoids the impact from the videos. Many people are tempts to follows the influencer after they watch the videos and that's our job to make sure that we don't gets the same thing by always be wise watch the video. Many influencer trying to make money from social media and makes many videos to attract more visitors so we must be careful to select the influencer. We don't have to subscribe to their channel if they don't gives a good videos to us so we can take care of ourselves.

Yes I'm in support of promoting responsible gambling enough to reach out to young people on same social media. If you look at it those influencers or streamers don't care much about responsible gambling. Or some of them only wants to make money without reducing the rate at which their viewers get themselves involved in addiction. It's meant to be balanced, since they own more fellowship and viewers, such medium are also the right place to place ad about gambling responsibly.

But it seems nothing huge would be benefited by promoting responsible gambling. Yet it's the right thing for the growth of a responsible society. With consistency more underaged people and new gamblers will get prepared properly before engaging in gambling. I've not seen anyone doing it, aside some personal interest boards established for promoting responsible gambling.

Many people will supports of promoting responsible from the influencers, especially if the influencer can gives videos that can helps the audience to finds what they wants. Those influencers or streamers doesn't thinks about responsibility of playing gambling because they just focus on how to gets many audiences to their channels and how they can makes money from their channel. If they can thinks about that, maybe those influencers or streamers will have many subscribers that will enjoy watch their videos.

Promoting gambling games can makes their reputations is down and their channel can gets prohibition, especially if many people doesn't like their channel and reports the channel to the authority. But if those influencers or streamers can explains why they shares the videos, maybe they can still have their reputations. But the decision will be on us to select the influencers or streamers so we must be carefully to select the influencers or streamers.

[Hispo]

All that needs to be true from a stream is the game being played is the same game available to anyone.   I see no problem with watching a stream of gambling, decide if you want to watch or not and the decision is on you as an adult.  Why it became controversial is a mystery, theres a stream of a log burning on stream and thats been a classic broadcast going back decades and its perfectly harmless.  Do I support forest fires no, but people can burn a log if they feel like it and put it on steam and so to gambling.  I'd only dispute it as deceptive if the game odds were not true to life, if its a different game not available to the public in any way.

It is supposed to be the same game which is available for anyone to play, otherwise it would be a clear case of deceit, I am not ever sure to what extent that is even legal, to be honest.
The only case I am very sure there is no a real distribution of odds and winning probabilities with comes to slot games of casinos is when people download a game which happens to be the demo of the slots.

The demo can be completely different in terms of chances to win, under the assumption the person playing the demo would like to see the full animations which play when the user wins money or hit a jackpot, it would be for the sake of selling the game as a provider, though, one the game is set up on the casino and real money is at stake, there is no reason for the chances to actually favor the gambler, and then it where the actual profit for the house comes from.
I would like to think those streamers are not cheating in anyway, it would be quite a scandal otherwise.

[fullhdpixel]

Are you a Filipino? this has been a norm and meme in our country that many of the content creators, coming from the gaming streams that they do everyday, they've changed their contents to gambling related contents. I think that the pay is higher with that and with their influence to their fans is very much high. But they don't know that a lot of lives have been destroyed with how they promote the casino as if they're always going to win those bets they do. There's a false marketing on their end and making it look like it's easy to win.

To be honest, I feel that if gambling is legal and allowed within a country and there are physical or land-based casinos as well, then you can't blame content creators completely for doing what they are doing because they are doing a job and they earn a living with it, but it's our responsibility as viewers to know and understand what is good and what is bad for us and that we shouldn't blindly follow anyone that we see doing something over the internet.

Kids shouldn't be allowed to watch live streams because it's not suitable for them unless it's some kids-related stream, and adults should be mature enough to understand the positive and negative consequences of gambling and shouldn't think it's easy to win just because a streamer is winning.

[irhact]

To be honest, I feel that if gambling is legal and allowed within a country and there are physical or land-based casinos as well, then you can't blame content creators completely for doing what they are doing because they are doing a job and they earn a living with it, but it's our responsibility as viewers to know and understand what is good and what is bad for us and that we shouldn't blindly follow anyone that we see doing something over the internet.

Kids shouldn't be allowed to watch live streams because it's not suitable for them unless it's some kids-related stream, and adults should be mature enough to understand the positive and negative consequences of gambling and shouldn't think it's easy to win just because a streamer is winning.

What I think is that, since gambling is not illegal in most countries, i don't think those influencers are doing the wrong thing, they would only be wrong if they mislead individuals blindly  or say things that would lead them to become addictive gamblers, but in a case where they're not an just influencing a gambling platform with their social media page then I don't see anything bad in that.

 Maybe the OP has made a wrong decision from an influencers predictions or lost some money through it that's why he feel pained but then he should understand that those influencers most times don't care if you're making the wrong decisions or not so far they're getting paid by the platform they're influencing, moreover it's left for you as an individual to decide to listen to them or follow them blindly.

[pawanjain]

Everyone wants a piece of the cake. People are earning huge amounts of money through streaming.
Not only they get money from the streaming platforms but also earn money from the sponsors.
So it's a double income and so many people are trying their luck with these streaming platforms.

On point, A streamer that I’m following disclosed the offer he gets from promoting the casino. They get fixed amount of money approximately 1000$ per stream with fixed amount of stream time. They can get more profit from views and affiliate commission that’s why they decided to change content to gambling since they already have followers that is willing to support him even on new content because they frequently having a giveaway to active followers.

Casino industry offers a lucrative amount of money for their deal. My country is dominated by this online casino mostly owned by Chinese companies that operates in our country.

 Chinese company, really? I think I have never personally interacted in casinos or sport books which are based on China, the west is pretty much dominated by casinos which have their headquarters in countries like the United States, Europe and in the Caribbean Islands.
Out of curiosity... What country are you from or what country do you gamble from? I assume you are from Africa or east Asia? Otherwise, I don't see how it could be possible for a Chinese company to comply with the tight KYC regulations which are usually imposed in the West.

Leaving that aside. One thousand dollars is quite a significant amount of money, no doubt about it, even for people living in developed countries, though, because how big the streaming landscape is, I would assume it is rather difficult for the average person to become a streamer and find sponsorships from casinos. It takes some kind of specific personality for someone to succeed on it.

Chinese people are good software developers and so I wouldn't be surprised if there are Chinese startups owning gambling sites.
$1000 is indeed a great amount just for a stream. With just few streams a week, a streamer can earn thousands of dollars a week.

[EluguHcman]

Streaming in the gambling is no more a new thing and it service as a marketing strategies in speculating a specific casino platform.

They are usually hired for it and it is usually individuals who has the dignitary capacity to influence the audience due to numbers of fans they had gathered as a community community with their popularity which if the influencer leads for others to follow, the audience would definitely find it interesting in participating in whatever the influencer does.

It is actually not a bad idea if the casino sites using individuals for such marketing skills but it is worth sanctioning with terms and conditions to be applied so that the influencer doesn't have to inspire or invoke some chronic addictions on the audience where they can be negatively affected.

[KTChampions]

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

The problem is that streamers are not promoting even close to responsible gaming, but quite the opposite. The casino gives them fake money and during the stream they lose (sometimes they win, of course, but very rarely) millions. They do it so easily that it is obvious to me that this is fake money. And yes, I noticed that now (apparently due to problems with promotion through other channels) a huge number of gambling projects have entered the streaming sphere, but I cannot say that at least half of them operate adequately.