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July 26, 2024, 10:13:54 PM
Last edit: July 29, 2024, 07:04:49 PM by AmoreJaz
 #281

Most of the casinos advertised on this forum are very trusted, maybe not a few, but trusted casinos are scattered here, everyone plays on casino sites that are actually on this fourm, if there is cheating or anything, it has been ensured that the casino site they are playing at is not from this fourm, it can even be said that it is definitely a fraud under the guise of a casino.
It is better to always keep your eyes open, as we have seen on the past casinos that had a great reputation losing it all because of single incident, or simply because the casino was sold to another owner without informing their customers and the casino became a scam at some point, so a great deal of caution still needs to be exercised even when playing at a casino in which you have done this for years, and this is even more true with casinos hardly anyone has heard to talk about.
I think change of management is usually the biggest problem big casinos face. The new management most times does not fully understand what it takes to build such level of reputation, the reason they don't pay attention to sustaining it. We have seen recent incident of such change of management and how it has affected on of the biggest casino in this forum, although they have been working very hard to remedy the accumulated problems the change in system is causing them. If popular and big casino can face such problems, just imagine how it will be for a new casino that have not built a strong reputation.

Sometimes it is better to start from scratch rather than carry the burden of what's left of the previous management. Because even if they say they are the new management, people already have formed their opinion on the reputation of the site. It is a challenge for the people to forget their original reputation. It would take years and years of good operation and a lot of hard work before people will finally trust the site again. Therefore, some new owners will just create a brand new site not tied up to any old site, to avoid relating them to any bad reputation gained by the old one.

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July 27, 2024, 04:15:29 PM
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That's the worst case which could happen in any casino whether physical or online. The greedy agents are just like those scammers who want to take money of the gamblers and if gamblers win they try their best to not pay them the winnings.

The agent was a greedy one that's why he didn't pay the player who won the bet. I believe that such greedy people should not get license at first and if they get license then their license should get terminated if they try to scam the players.

Such is life, you will discover in some ugly situations like this, whereby the gambler will risk his money to gamble and lost the game and no one will volunteer in sharing the lost with him, but when it comes to winning, they will take the steps on being responsible on that and want to claim their share, i bet no one dare try that shit with me, except am willing and excited about giving the agent, he will have to explain to me more better on why should i give him a dime from my winning.
I've tried to differentiate this on the forum many times but it seems most people are still mistaking the agent arrangement for the true land-based casinos which are to be regarded as the only true physical casinos. Those casinos using agents with physical structures are online-based casinos in my opinion, they are only using those agents as a means to reach out to more people, but their online betting still stands if anyone wants to explore it.

The only difference is that those gamblers who do not have access to their gadgets or/and internet service mostly resort to them, and in some cases too, those gamblers may not be able to fund their gambling accounts ASAP. It's those agents who are extorting people with a percentage or a fixed cut which is beyond the power of the parent company. So we should not use this crime of such arrangement to tag the true land-based casinos that have all their operation directly without the involvement of such hungry and lesser agents like that.

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July 27, 2024, 10:39:17 PM
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I've tried to differentiate this on the forum many times but it seems most people are still mistaking the agent arrangement for the true land-based casinos which are to be regarded as the only true physical casinos. Those casinos using agents with physical structures are online-based casinos in my opinion, they are only using those agents as a means to reach out to more people, but their online betting still stands if anyone wants to explore it.

The only difference is that those gamblers who do not have access to their gadgets or/and internet service mostly resort to them, and in some cases too, those gamblers may not be able to fund their gambling accounts ASAP. It's those agents who are extorting people with a percentage or a fixed cut which is beyond the power of the parent company. So we should not use this crime of such arrangement to tag the true land-based casinos that have all their operation directly without the involvement of such hungry and lesser agents like that.
Those that are referring to casino's that have physical agent shop as physical offline casino are either not knowledge on what they are saying and also just making such statements and engaging in gambling discussions without the basic knowledge of what gambling is all about and how to differentiate between offline and online casinos, well in my little understanding offline casino's are those physical casino houses that offers only physical games and without any site that their games are listed to stake and played.

Unlike those casino's that have physical agent shop but still rely online and the internet to both stake and play some of the games and the only thing that that agent does is to stake games for player's anytime they approach the shop to book some games, so this is far from what is call offline operations, and indeed only a few people really understand this differences.e

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July 28, 2024, 06:19:44 AM
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Most of the casinos advertised on this forum are very trusted, maybe not a few, but trusted casinos are scattered here, everyone plays on casino sites that are actually on this fourm, if there is cheating or anything, it has been ensured that the casino site they are playing at is not from this fourm, it can even be said that it is definitely a fraud under the guise of a casino.
It is better to always keep your eyes open, as we have seen on the past casinos that had a great reputation losing it all because of single incident, or simply because the casino was sold to another owner without informing their customers and the casino became a scam at some point, so a great deal of caution still needs to be exercised even when playing at a casino in which you have done this for years, and this is even more true with casinos hardly anyone has heard to talk about.
I think change of management is usually the biggest problem big casinos face. The new management most times does not fully understand what it takes to build such level of reputation, the reason they don't pay attention to sustaining it. We have seen recent incident of such change of management and how it has affected on of the biggest casino in this forum, although they have been working very hard to remedy the accumulated problems the change in system is causing them. If popular and big casino can face such problems, just imagine how it will be for a new casino that have not built a strong reputation.

Sometimes it is better to start from scratch rather than carry the burden of what's left of the previous management. Because even if they say they are the new management, people already have formed their opinion on the reputation of the site.

Most of the casino here are already filtered with their reputation those stays long time are the one who keep playing by the community and even the management of the previous casino that has a bad reputation must need to fix their action from their previous accusations just to clear their name, no matter what tons of changes with their management at the end of the day they are still carrying their brand deal so I guess still they are responsible to fix the raised concerns and issues.

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July 31, 2024, 07:36:40 AM
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Most of the casinos advertised on this forum are very trusted, maybe not a few, but trusted casinos are scattered here, everyone plays on casino sites that are actually on this fourm, if there is cheating or anything, it has been ensured that the casino site they are playing at is not from this fourm, it can even be said that it is definitely a fraud under the guise of a casino.
It is better to always keep your eyes open, as we have seen on the past casinos that had a great reputation losing it all because of single incident, or simply because the casino was sold to another owner without informing their customers and the casino became a scam at some point, so a great deal of caution still needs to be exercised even when playing at a casino in which you have done this for years, and this is even more true with casinos hardly anyone has heard to talk about.
I think change of management is usually the biggest problem big casinos face. The new management most times does not fully understand what it takes to build such level of reputation, the reason they don't pay attention to sustaining it. We have seen recent incident of such change of management and how it has affected on of the biggest casino in this forum, although they have been working very hard to remedy the accumulated problems the change in system is causing them. If popular and big casino can face such problems, just imagine how it will be for a new casino that have not built a strong reputation.

Sometimes it is better to start from scratch rather than carry the burden of what's left of the previous management. Because even if they say they are the new management, people already have formed their opinion on the reputation of the site.

Most of the casino here are already filtered with their reputation those stays long time are the one who keep playing by the community and even the management of the previous casino that has a bad reputation must need to fix their action from their previous accusations just to clear their name, no matter what tons of changes with their management at the end of the day they are still carrying their brand deal so I guess still they are responsible to fix the raised concerns and issues.
I can perhaps also add to your discussion that it is a change in the management of a company, in this case a casino, that is sometimes a good reason to justify some unpleasant innovations for the players of this casino in the work of this casino itself.
 Sometimes it is very easy to blame all the mistakes and miscalculations on the leader who has left his post.  And sometimes this is done fictitiously and he simply nominally changes his last name and first name to a new person, while he continues to make key decisions on the operation of his business.  Well, in short, this is all a good method to correct the image of an unpleasant situation with the players of this casino. 
Well, problems naturally arise for players, which goes without saying.  And above all, of course, everyone is concerned about the hassle-free withdrawal of money from a casino deposit to their account.

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September 02, 2024, 02:22:49 PM
 #286


I've tried to differentiate this on the forum many times but it seems most people are still mistaking the agent arrangement for the true land-based casinos which are to be regarded as the only true physical casinos. Those casinos using agents with physical structures are online-based casinos in my opinion, they are only using those agents as a means to reach out to more people, but their online betting still stands if anyone wants to explore it.

The only difference is that those gamblers who do not have access to their gadgets or/and internet service mostly resort to them, and in some cases too, those gamblers may not be able to fund their gambling accounts ASAP. It's those agents who are extorting people with a percentage or a fixed cut which is beyond the power of the parent company. So we should not use this crime of such arrangement to tag the true land-based casinos that have all their operation directly without the involvement of such hungry and lesser agents like that.
Those that are referring to casino's that have physical agent shop as physical offline casino are either not knowledge on what they are saying and also just making such statements and engaging in gambling discussions without the basic knowledge of what gambling is all about and how to differentiate between offline and online casinos, well in my little understanding offline casino's are those physical casino houses that offers only physical games and without any site that their games are listed to stake and played.

Unlike those casino's that have physical agent shop but still rely online and the internet to both stake and play some of the games and the only thing that that agent does is to stake games for player's anytime they approach the shop to book some games, so this is far from what is call offline operations, and indeed only a few people really understand this differences.e
In my opinion, offline gambling rarely doubles as an online gambling, because there will definitely be 2 managements in managing this gambling, so there is no possibility that 1 casino can have 2 services, but I don't know for sure what the situation is like out there.

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September 03, 2024, 04:31:01 AM
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Most of the casino here are already filtered with their reputation those stays long time are the one who keep playing by the community and even the management of the previous casino that has a bad reputation must need to fix their action from their previous accusations just to clear their name, no matter what tons of changes with their management at the end of the day they are still carrying their brand deal so I guess still they are responsible to fix the raised concerns and issues.
In an online casino or a physical casino of course they must be able to solve the problems that occur if it still involves the casino. And I think the online or physical casino will be responsible for the problems that occur, but in an online casino there is usually fraud with the occurrence of problems and the absence of responsibility that they do where a casino like this might cheat. In addition, I think that physical casinos that are still standing today also have an online version of the casino, because indeed this technological development should be utilized to reach more people to place bets at their casino because indirectly it also makes them get more profit.

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September 03, 2024, 05:48:33 AM
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Most of the casino here are already filtered with their reputation those stays long time are the one who keep playing by the community and even the management of the previous casino that has a bad reputation must need to fix their action from their previous accusations just to clear their name, no matter what tons of changes with their management at the end of the day they are still carrying their brand deal so I guess still they are responsible to fix the raised concerns and issues.
In an online casino or a physical casino of course they must be able to solve the problems that occur if it still involves the casino. And I think the online or physical casino will be responsible for the problems that occur, but in an online casino there is usually fraud with the occurrence of problems and the absence of responsibility that they do where a casino like this might cheat. In addition, I think that physical casinos that are still standing today also have an online version of the casino, because indeed this technological development should be utilized to reach more people to place bets at their casino because indirectly it also makes them get more profit.
Sadly we can't have it all, one has to trade one advantage for another.

Online casinos are safer, absence of physical threats and at the same time you can make friends and have some fun n physical casinos if you are the type that likes to be in the midst of people, some gamblers are even afraid that online casinos can cheat them that's why they choose to stay with physical casinos, the problem I have with physical casinos is dangers that lurk among my people, fear of tracing back home or someone bad is wawre of the money you win.

It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.
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September 03, 2024, 07:10:09 PM
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It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.

That part is good, not always when you win or lose you have to publish, although I honestly compare throughout my life as a player I can say that I have had more failures than successes, but it is not something that embarrasses me , thanks to those experiences I have gained a lot of knowledge, now I see that with sports guidelines , the options to win are many and better, of course it is my way of seeing things, it is not that it is something determining, but it does help to be able to do a better job to earn money.

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September 03, 2024, 08:05:28 PM
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Sometimes it is better to start from scratch rather than carry the burden of what's left of the previous management. Because even if they say they are the new management, people already have formed their opinion on the reputation of the site. It is a challenge for the people to forget their original reputation. It would take years and years of good operation and a lot of hard work before people will finally trust the site again. Therefore, some new owners will just create a brand new site not tied up to any old site, to avoid relating them to any bad reputation gained by the old one.
You are on point with this statement, because one of the mistakes some new team makes is to buy an already existing company and try to rebrand them into fitting their own ways of operations, without knowing the risk that comes with such an approach of building a company such as a Casino, this risk of buying pre owned casinos is relevant to both physical and online casinos, because on a multiple time, we have seen how some online cryptocurrency casinos get sold to another manager and from that start of point their start declining on a fast level which is not good for the future substantiality of such a business, so for that if anyone wants to build a company, such is gambling sites, be it physical or cryptocurrency casinos, there is the need to put all this things into consideration and try to balance up every possible approach, while some physical casino get bought over my frequently compared to online Casio, I don't know what the rationa compared to both.

But then pre own company is a bad business strategy and if will affects the business on the list ng run, because before you buy the company over, there are already some old records that could play out in the future in whichever direction, but the most important thing is that building from the very start, helps a lot and in most of the ways if you check the ratio of success between an organic grown company such a as a casino and the bought over own, you will discovered that those self build succeed more than a bought company.

We still also have some of the peculiar similarities between the risks of running a physical casino compared to tht of running an online cryptocurrency casinos and this should be taken into account so that it can help our sense of judgement.

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September 03, 2024, 09:50:27 PM
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Most of the casino here are already filtered with their reputation those stays long time are the one who keep playing by the community and even the management of the previous casino that has a bad reputation must need to fix their action from their previous accusations just to clear their name, no matter what tons of changes with their management at the end of the day they are still carrying their brand deal so I guess still they are responsible to fix the raised concerns and issues.
In an online casino or a physical casino of course they must be able to solve the problems that occur if it still involves the casino. And I think the online or physical casino will be responsible for the problems that occur, but in an online casino there is usually fraud with the occurrence of problems and the absence of responsibility that they do where a casino like this might cheat. In addition, I think that physical casinos that are still standing today also have an online version of the casino, because indeed this technological development should be utilized to reach more people to place bets at their casino because indirectly it also makes them get more profit.
Sadly we can't have it all, one has to trade one advantage for another.

Online casinos are safer, absence of physical threats and at the same time you can make friends and have some fun n physical casinos if you are the type that likes to be in the midst of people, some gamblers are even afraid that online casinos can cheat them that's why they choose to stay with physical casinos, the problem I have with physical casinos is dangers that lurk among my people, fear of tracing back home or someone bad is wawre of the money you win.

It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.
One of the main reasons on why people would really be that skeptical on playing into those physical casinos on which it would really be pertaining about on someones safety on which it is really that indeed true.
When it comes to this manner then we do really know that it could really be happening and this is why its really that depending on someone whether they would really be that accepting those potential risks or not.
Somehow not all the time there would really be some news about this because this is really just that mostly happening into those people who do win up jackpots or significant amounts but not all the time.
People are really just that too paranoid when it comes to safety on which even myself would really be prioritizing safety over convenience. You would be surely thinking that if you are really that to deal with gambling
then you could do it online or something that do talks about keeping yourself away from potential harm. In the issues or talks about non fair online casinos then there are actually ones but those are scam ones but
somehow proving it out into those known ones cant really be determined. This is why better stick into those popular but there's no assurance about being fair but somehow having those kind of reputation will really be
at least giving out that kind of confidence that you are playing on the right place. Everything would really be that according into someones preference because there are really those gamblers whom do really like to deal up with gambling games on their both eyes and hands on doing such thing or simply loving the ambiance and also socializing with other people on which you cant possibly be able to experience when dealing up with online gambling which it is indeed true. Also, not all does have the confidence on going into physical casinos as if they thought that it is really just that for rich people which its actually not.

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September 04, 2024, 01:12:28 AM
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In an online casino or a physical casino of course they must be able to solve the problems that occur if it still involves the casino. And I think the online or physical casino will be responsible for the problems that occur, but in an online casino there is usually fraud with the occurrence of problems and the absence of responsibility that they do where a casino like this might cheat. In addition, I think that physical casinos that are still standing today also have an online version of the casino, because indeed this technological development should be utilized to reach more people to place bets at their casino because indirectly it also makes them get more profit.
Sadly we can't have it all, one has to trade one advantage for another.

Online casinos are safer, absence of physical threats and at the same time you can make friends and have some fun n physical casinos if you are the type that likes to be in the midst of people, some gamblers are even afraid that online casinos can cheat them that's why they choose to stay with physical casinos, the problem I have with physical casinos is dangers that lurk among my people, fear of tracing back home or someone bad is wawre of the money you win.

It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.
online casinos are indeed safer in terms of physical, because online casinos can be done in a safe place as we wish and it seems impossible for anyone to want to gamble online in an open or public place, of course players will choose a safe place to do it like at home or even in their own room. However, with the current large number of online casinos available, it is difficult for us to determine which online casinos are real and which online casinos are fraudulent.
I myself do choose online casinos, because I think it is easier to do with our ability to do it without having to travel far first, but to discuss security in terms of fraud or not, I don't know for sure when visiting a new online casino I have to be careful to determine whether the casino has a good reputation or not.

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September 04, 2024, 07:19:00 AM
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It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.

That part is good, not always when you win or lose you have to publish, although I honestly compare throughout my life as a player I can say that I have had more failures than successes, but it is not something that embarrasses me , thanks to those experiences I have gained a lot of knowledge, now I see that with sports guidelines , the options to win are many and better, of course it is my way of seeing things, it is not that it is something determining, but it does help to be able to do a better job to earn money.

Experience is essential and privacy of your path if you want so - too. I applaud the way that you've gone through and I think you will become even better with time, both in self-discipline and analysis.

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In an online casino or a physical casino of course they must be able to solve the problems that occur if it still involves the casino. And I think the online or physical casino will be responsible for the problems that occur, but in an online casino there is usually fraud with the occurrence of problems and the absence of responsibility that they do where a casino like this might cheat. In addition, I think that physical casinos that are still standing today also have an online version of the casino, because indeed this technological development should be utilized to reach more people to place bets at their casino because indirectly it also makes them get more profit.
Sadly we can't have it all, one has to trade one advantage for another.

Online casinos are safer, absence of physical threats and at the same time you can make friends and have some fun n physical casinos if you are the type that likes to be in the midst of people, some gamblers are even afraid that online casinos can cheat them that's why they choose to stay with physical casinos, the problem I have with physical casinos is dangers that lurk among my people, fear of tracing back home or someone bad is wawre of the money you win.

It is left for gamblers to choose one that suits the type of person they are, for me I will always choose to be a coded gambler where no one knows if I win money or lose money, I don't like people knowing too much about me, it is in the blood.
online casinos are indeed safer in terms of physical, because online casinos can be done in a safe place as we wish and it seems impossible for anyone to want to gamble online in an open or public place, of course players will choose a safe place to do it like at home or even in their own room. However, with the current large number of online casinos available, it is difficult for us to determine which online casinos are real and which online casinos are fraudulent.
I myself do choose online casinos, because I think it is easier to do with our ability to do it without having to travel far first, but to discuss security in terms of fraud or not, I don't know for sure when visiting a new online casino I have to be careful to determine whether the casino has a good reputation or not.

But there are gambles here obviously, that before the advent of online casinos, played on traditional brick and mortar casinos and up to know, we chooses to play on them. And for me I still feel safe playing outside and again, as what others said, the ambience the atmosphere and even if you don't play, you can go with your friends and have a free drinks.

There are times that when I go in a land base casinos, I will see some of my neighbors and say that they have complimentary hotel accommodations (I don't know how they got it), and just stay in the floor have some fun, watch the live band playing. So it's really the atmosphere and I do not think that you can have that experience playing alone in a online casinos.

 
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September 04, 2024, 09:59:45 AM
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physical gambling platforms did you mean a land based casino right I thought every land base casino is crazy rich with ton of money so they didn't care how many amount the user win.  Grin

based on twitter user https://x.com/AdenikeAwe1/status/1782154829801927095 "The case is still in court. It was adjourned till the 3rd of next month." So the court can processed a gambling winning meaning in the nigeria gambling is legal right/

If there is way to bring the case to police and gambling is legal I will bring this case to police too

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September 04, 2024, 08:40:08 PM
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The popularity of online gambling platform have been on the increase for a while now thereby creating several arguments between them and the  physical outlets in terms of which is the best. There was an incidence I saw on twitter this money that made me decide to create this post so anyone who is bent on using physical shops should be cautious.

According to the tweet and the victim narration, he bet the game in a physical shop and won N16,700,000 (~$13,500) but the agent of the shop refused to pay him even after the betting company from their head office instructed him to pay. Not that the company did not pay the agent, they paid but the agent refused to pay him saying that someone else have come to withdraw the money. He approached the court only to get N3,000,000( $2,400) out of the total winning and was asked to go and look for the people that withdrew that money. Normally, when there is winning, the only way to withdraw is to tender the ticket to the agents who will take the ticket before paying the winning. So I do not know how someone will withdraw the winning of another and what the person used to make the withdrawal. I think the agent wanted to steal the entire money but due to the pressure from the court, he has to return part of it. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

That's just dark and unfair . And the money that they gave the Man is not even enough at compare to his real pay . There are others disadvantages of physical casino, like when you endup with a huge win some folks can hear your win and will try and threaten you later to get that same win from you.

So those that do normally go to physical casino should always be careful because have heard of alot of cases where by some persons wins was taken from them by force . Due to some certain leak of information of the individual win.

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