School or Skills?

[jvanname]

A real-life example of the importance of education and qualifications is to look at the world's leading corporations today. Except for founders like Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, they do not have college degrees but they are people who have studied at the most prestigious schools in the world. Meanwhile, most of the remaining CEOs of large corporations have high education and degrees.
For example, Tim Cook, he has a master's degree from Duke University and a bachelor's degree from Auburn University. Or Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, who also graduated with a bachelor's and master's degree from Stanford University...I have never seen anyone without a degree and only skills who can take up important positions in corporations and companies.

It can be said that education and degrees are still extremely important in today's age. Only short-sighted people look down on degrees and think that skills alone are enough.

As long as universities promote violence, we cannot say that attending a university has anything to do with education whatsoever. People who attend universities are stupid ass fucking morons!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[SuperBitMan]

The greatest people in the world now are people who use skills to progress. School provides you with government work which can never make you the richest person on earth no matter what kind of government work you possess. But using your skills and running your own business, being a boss of your self, your can achieve greater height than being employed by the government.

To understand life better and to progress, we need both skills and schooling. Schooling gives a person awareness thinking ability and the ability to recognize right and wrong. Skills enable us to succeed in the practical field. Just getting a degree is not enough, but it is also necessary to learn skills according to the requirements of the time. Education gives us a perspective to think, while skills give us the power to put our thoughts into practice. In today world only those nations are moving forward that are educated and skilled. Youth should learn some useful skills along with education. Knowledge is necessary to understand the problems of life better. And skills are essential to find solutions to these problems. The combination of education and skills is the key to a successful life.

You are right, Education and skill are both important in our life as humans, just like you said the countries that are moving forward with good economy are those that there youth are both educated and skilled in producing things, let's take a look at china, a lot of production are been done in China and the reason for there success is because of there education and skills but together.
In my country right now if you are only educated it takes the grace of God for you to get a good job that will pay your bills very well, what is now working in my country is being educated and skilled, companies in my country prefer to employ someone that is well educated and very skilled than someone that is just educated.
In today's world a lot of people who are both educated and skilled are really making it very big I'm not saying those that are also just educated are not making it I'm only saying most people making it currently are people that are both educated and skilled.

[Jaksonhard]

We usually get all the education and skills a person needs in life from school. We definitely need both school and skills. School teaches a person to choose the wrong path and the right path. And we acquire all the knowledge we need to live a normal life from there. And along with this, we need skills to move forward in our overall life. If we do not have any skills in any work, then we cannot stand there. If we notice that today, those who are ahead in the world are the ones who are ahead in skills and education. Usually, if we go to do any business, then we definitely need skills and a lot of education is needed here. In this case, in a word, we need both skills and education to live a normal life, of which these two are never able to make his life successful.

[jvanname]

We usually get all the education and skills a person needs in life from school. We definitely need both school and skills. School teaches a person to choose the wrong path and the right path. And we acquire all the knowledge we need to live a normal life from there. And along with this, we need skills to move forward in our overall life. If we do not have any skills in any work, then we cannot stand there. If we notice that today, those who are ahead in the world are the ones who are ahead in skills and education. Usually, if we go to do any business, then we definitely need skills and a lot of education is needed here. In this case, in a word, we need both skills and education to live a normal life, of which these two are never able to make his life successful.

You seem to be completely psychotic. Public schools are violent places where students act like shit. Universities are also places where people act like shit. Universities promote violence. I fucking know because I was a professor. And I do not want to hear your bullshit until UNIVERSITIES FUCKING APOLOGIZE AND IMPROVE THEIR BEHAVIOR! Since universities promote violence, any sensible person must conclude that all the morons who graduate from these institutions are stupid ass pieces of shit who are completely fucking worthless to any sane society.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Futurexxx]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?

Their is nothing as such, our educational systems is doing just fine, just that their are some special skills that are in high demands, but that doesn't mean that to be educated is not worth it.

My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

If I were an employer of labour, who will I consider the most, I don't think I will be judging by anything else except what you can brings to the table, i don't care to know of your educational background, what am more concerned about is if you can deliver, as long as you can deliver and give me what I want, you are getting the job that's it.

[eightdots]

The greatest people in the world now are people who use skills to progress. School provides you with government work which can never make you the richest person on earth no matter what kind of government work you possess. But using your skills and running your own business, being a boss of your self, your can achieve greater height than being employed by the government.

To understand life better and to progress, we need both skills and schooling. Schooling gives a person awareness thinking ability and the ability to recognize right and wrong. Skills enable us to succeed in the practical field. Just getting a degree is not enough, but it is also necessary to learn skills according to the requirements of the time. Education gives us a perspective to think, while skills give us the power to put our thoughts into practice. In today world only those nations are moving forward that are educated and skilled. Youth should learn some useful skills along with education. Knowledge is necessary to understand the problems of life better. And skills are essential to find solutions to these problems. The combination of education and skills is the key to a successful life.

You are right, Education and skill are both important in our life as humans, just like you said the countries that are moving forward with good economy are those that there youth are both educated and skilled in producing things, let's take a look at china, a lot of production are been done in China and the reason for there success is because of there education and skills but together.
In my country right now if you are only educated it takes the grace of God for you to get a good job that will pay your bills very well, what is now working in my country is being educated and skilled, companies in my country prefer to employ someone that is well educated and very skilled than someone that is just educated.
In today's world a lot of people who are both educated and skilled are really making it very big I'm not saying those that are also just educated are not making it I'm only saying most people making it currently are people that are both educated and skilled.

People who are aware of their talents wait for the right time to use their talents and do it. Sometimes accessing and using information is also a talent, sometimes being in the right place at the right time. In fact, talent is a behavior that can be developed, and therefore people who can develop their talents economically can reach what they want.

In places where education is of high quality, people benefit both society and themselves. Education contributes to every person, whether they are starting a business or working somewhere. Raising individuals who know the value of education is the best thing for society.

[Emylion]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Like many may say school is scam. But trust me the result is very vital, going to school is a different thing from acquiring a skill, they are both important in ones life, like there are some organization you'd like to be employed and they will need both qualifications and it might be a life changing job, but just because you're only educated or only a skilled worker you might lost it, so in my own opinion if I'm to be in such condition I won't make a choice on the one to hold on to, but make sure I take the advantage of both skill, till that very day that right phone call will be made, then boom you get to know the importance of both.

[qurbanshah02]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?

Their is nothing as such, our educational systems is doing just fine, just that their are some special skills that are in high demands, but that doesn't mean that to be educated is not worth it.

Every country's system is completely normal, but the difference lies in the demand for jobs in their global economy, due to which our system in the whole world decreases. If we improve the job system in our country, then this dispute and their percentage will also be normal in every country. And according to me, experience should be considered better and education is better for a job. But if we look at both, we will have to think according to the system of our country and our home.

[armanda90]

You are right, Education and skill are both important in our life as humans, just like you said the countries that are moving forward with good economy are those that there youth are both educated and skilled in producing things, let's take a look at china, a lot of production are been done in China and the reason for there success is because of there education and skills but together.
In my country right now if you are only educated it takes the grace of God for you to get a good job that will pay your bills very well, what is now working in my country is being educated and skilled, companies in my country prefer to employ someone that is well educated and very skilled than someone that is just educated.
In today's world a lot of people who are both educated and skilled are really making it very big I'm not saying those that are also just educated are not making it I'm only saying most people making it currently are people that are both educated and skilled.

China has become one of the most successful and developing countries right now because its able to collaborate between education and skills regarding both side can't separate each other. China keep pressure how important about education or school regarding improve their citizen balance with skill, right now easily for China how produce top technology during they have top talent citizen having high education and good skill.
Having high education make us easily how to find good job bigger salary payment, but have high skill during not balance well with high education quite difficult in my country Indonesia how to accept at good job with bigger payment salary.

School and education are both important part for your achievement.

[Abdulzuruku01]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Both school and skills are important, and if you posses both, you will have a greater chance of getting hired if you apply for a job because you will feel more confident about yourself when you go to an interview. This brings us back to your original question, if I'm to choose between school and skills,  I will choose skills because of the experience I had in my first year after graduation. I applied for a job in road construction company and i was called for an interview, but I wasn't confidence in myself because I knew I was just excellent at the theoretical parts of it.

I did the calculations the interviewer asked me to do, and he asked me to relate my answers to the practical aspect. I was so confused and disappointed because I was unable to respond, and they told me that they needed someone who would add value to their company. The person who was hired didn't have the same level of education as me, but he has the experience more than me, so he has a chance to get the job. At that time, my qualifications were unhelpful, and I realized that skills is more important than school. That's from my own view.

[Mate2237]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Both school and skills are important, and if you posses both, you will have a greater chance of getting hired if you apply for a job because you will feel more confident about yourself when you go to an interview. This brings us back to your original question, if I'm to choose between school and skills,  I will choose skills because of the experience I had in my first year after graduation. I applied for a job in road construction company and i was called for an interview, but I wasn't confidence in myself because I knew I was just excellent at the theoretical parts of it.

I did the calculations the interviewer asked me to do, and he asked me to relate my answers to the practical aspect. I was so confused and disappointed because I was unable to respond, and they told me that they needed someone who would add value to their company. The person who was hired didn't have the same level of education as me, but he has the experience more than me, so he has a chance to get the job. At that time, my qualifications were unhelpful, and I realized that skills is more important than school. That's from my own view.

The the truth is that both school and skill is important but what we should concentrate our attention to is the fact that we should be more concerned about the kind of education that will should acquire because education is more of a theoretical which is causing more problem in society because the world is moving beyond the level of theoretical education vocational education should be prioritized  in our pursuit of education.


People should be add vocational education which is more concerned about getting a skill which will best equip the students population to face the harsh life after school because the fact is that there are no industries for people to work so acquiring skill means that you are already self employed

[Mahanton]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Both school and skills are important, and if you posses both, you will have a greater chance of getting hired if you apply for a job because you will feel more confident about yourself when you go to an interview. This brings us back to your original question, if I'm to choose between school and skills,  I will choose skills because of the experience I had in my first year after graduation. I applied for a job in road construction company and i was called for an interview, but I wasn't confidence in myself because I knew I was just excellent at the theoretical parts of it.

I did the calculations the interviewer asked me to do, and he asked me to relate my answers to the practical aspect. I was so confused and disappointed because I was unable to respond, and they told me that they needed someone who would add value to their company. The person who was hired didn't have the same level of education as me, but he has the experience more than me, so he has a chance to get the job. At that time, my qualifications were unhelpful, and I realized that skills is more important than school. That's from my own view.

The the truth is that both school and skill is important but what we should concentrate our attention to is the fact that we should be more concerned about the kind of education that will should acquire because education is more of a theoretical which is causing more problem in society because the world is moving beyond the level of theoretical education vocational education should be prioritized  in our pursuit of education.


People should be add vocational education which is more concerned about getting a skill which will best equip the students population to face the harsh life after school because the fact is that there are no industries for people to work so acquiring skill means that you are already self employed

Actually both are important but talking up realistically on how things being done then we do know that after finishing up college then we are all that having no experience and thats why we are applying into a job to get some experience but there are some sh!t employers out there who do prioritize into those who do have skills on which leaving out no room or chance for those who are fresh graduates and this is why we do able to see that there are tons who wasnt been able to land a job just because they've been that having that lack of opportunity on getting one. This is where they would be trying out to touch up other things which is out of their expertise and knowledge on which it isnt a bad option either but due to having no option then they will be coming out with that kind of idea. As an employer then you will be giving out that priorities into those who do have that both qualifications but there are some exemptions into those people who do showcased out those expertise or skills despite of lacking with those needed credentials. For an individual then as much as possible then you should be that finishing up studies because this is something that you would be needing for you to have that start up. Come to think that on how you would be able to obtain up a skill if you wont be able to land a job in the first place? Yes, getting your first job is hard since majority of those employers are finding or looking for those experienced people on which it is that very ironic. There are just that those times or conditions on which some individuals are trying out to find up ways for them to learn and acquire up such skills on different method. There are those conditions that luck factor do also have that kind of effect specially to those who had been that chosen up on landing up a job despite on having no educational attainment just because there are those employers who are that considering with those individuals who are that having the experience despite of lacking with those credentials but in personal point of view and approach then you would be needing up to consider on finishing studies no matter what. You do know on who do have the advantage because you do know that it turned out to be a default requirement.

[red4slash]

China has become one of the most successful and developing countries right now because its able to collaborate between education and skills regarding both side can't separate each other. China keep pressure how important about education or school regarding improve their citizen balance with skill, right now easily for China how produce top technology during they have top talent citizen having high education and good skill.
Having high education make us easily how to find good job bigger salary payment, but have high skill during not balance well with high education quite difficult in my country Indonesia how to accept at good job with bigger payment salary.

School and education are both important part for your achievement.

All this happened because in the end not only the government is disciplined in promoting this to be an advantage but also their human resources also have more advanced thinking so that in the end some countries that can be said to be advanced like China can do more practical things and that indirectly supports the sustainability of their country which becomes bigger because the government can control what they expect from their human resources where the people already know that in the end they need education but besides that they are also aware of the quality of themselves that must continue to be upgraded with skills.

Education has become a benchmark in our country (Indonesia) apart from nepotism in the end a higher education degree always becomes a benchmark in our country to get a bigger position and of course a higher salary. No matter how good our skills are when we do not pass the qualifications (especially in education degrees) then in Indonesia we will not be able to be anything, there may be some who can but that is only a small part of them who I consider to be lucky people.

[bakasabo]

The the truth is that both school and skill is important but what we should concentrate our attention to is the fact that we should be more concerned about the kind of education that will should acquire because education is more of a theoretical

Do you think that every lesson in school is important? In our country it is obligatory school for 9 years, then a students can choose between vocational school ( get a profession) or 3 more years in school. Observing what children learn during first years, I have doubts that 12 years in school are really that necessary. When I was at school, in first grade we were learning letters, numbers and how to write - basics. Now, children that go to first grade must already know how to read, write, substract and add to 20. They end first grade knowing multiplication table. I think school is running forward with todays teaching. Add that not every lesson is so necessary. I totally dont use knowledge in music, drawing, chemistry I have learned. For example I have been learning chemistry for 6 years at school, but despite H20, NaCl, H2SO4 and CO2 dont remember anything, and I doubt that I would use anything that I could have learned.

[Apocollapse]

Do you think that every lesson in school is important? In our country it is obligatory school for 9 years, then a students can choose between vocational school ( get a profession) or 3 more years in school. Observing what children learn during first years, I have doubts that 12 years in school are really that necessary. When I was at school, in first grade we were learning letters, numbers and how to write - basics. Now, children that go to first grade must already know how to read, write, substract and add to 20. They end first grade knowing multiplication table. I think school is running forward with todays teaching. Add that not every lesson is so necessary. I totally dont use knowledge in music, drawing, chemistry I have learned. For example I have been learning chemistry for 6 years at school, but despite H20, NaCl, H2SO4 and CO2 dont remember anything, and I doubt that I would use anything that I could have learned.

It's too reduce the risk for students who don't know what they want and what they have to learn.

I think almost all students doesn't know what they want and what they want to be, hence they learn all in order to have basic, at least it's not as hard as starting from zero. I agree not all lesson in school are important, many of them are just a requirement for the students to finish the school.

[bakasabo]

Do you think that every lesson in school is important? In our country it is obligatory school for 9 years, then a students can choose between vocational school ( get a profession) or 3 more years in school. Observing what children learn during first years, I have doubts that 12 years in school are really that necessary. When I was at school, in first grade we were learning letters, numbers and how to write - basics. Now, children that go to first grade must already know how to read, write, substract and add to 20. They end first grade knowing multiplication table. I think school is running forward with todays teaching. Add that not every lesson is so necessary. I totally dont use knowledge in music, drawing, chemistry I have learned. For example I have been learning chemistry for 6 years at school, but despite H20, NaCl, H2SO4 and CO2 dont remember anything, and I doubt that I would use anything that I could have learned.

It's too reduce the risk for students who don't know what they want and what they have to learn.

I think almost all students doesn't know what they want and what they want to be, hence they learn all in order to have basic, at least it's not as hard as starting from zero. I agree not all lesson in school are important, many of them are just a requirement for the students to finish the school.

I think children pay attention their parents and relatives professions and that is their base for who they want to be in future. They are flexible, but when they are +/- 14 yo, they have several options who they want to become. I would be happy if I had chance to replace several lessons that I had for years with useful skill or get some experience. Today, school look more like a place where parents leave children while they are at work (because there are no other option), than a place where children learn something useful all the time, all those years.

[HOPE25]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

I think that formal education is not just a paper certificate, but a holder of acquired knowledge or skills. To develop the talent given from birth or to increase skills, it is necessary to get it from formal education. Because I can increase skills only by using my acquired knowledge or talent, and to develop that, the basis of formal education is not school or skills, but the knowledge acquired from school is the tool of skills.

[illanz]

We’re living in a time of rapid change where new tech appears faster than anyone can keep up, so lifelong learning is essential but a solid basic education is still important because it gives you the foundation you need to adapt and succeed.

[knowngunman]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

I don't want to argue about which is best among the two but I will go straight to answer your second question that I bold in your post. Of course, if I'm in a position to employ and I have two applicants where one has only a school certificate and the other has both school certificate and a skill related to the job, I will definitely employ the one with a certificate and a skill. School certificate is just a piece of paper and can even be bought in some cases which means it shouldn't be a prerequisite when employing. Moreover, certificate can not do the work but personal experience and skills. Skill is what is required to move the company forward and not the number of first class or second class holders you have in your company. Quite alright, school is very necessary but we should be aware that it's just a strategy to delay the queue so government offices can not be over populated at a time.

[Solodoski]

It's really difficult to separate the two, because even with your skill, you still need educational certificates to help you get a good job. The main issue with education right now is that most school still includes what's irrelevant in there curriculum and this affect the students, because when they come to the real world to get a job, they will realize that they need a certain skill that will be required for the job that they are applying for, and this skill was never thought it their schools.
I would really have preferred skill acquisition to education,  but most of the companies or industry that want to employ will still ask for your educational certificate when they know that they still have to train you for the job. I will advice that you get your educational certificate, but also try to aquire skill while you have the certificate.