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They never give it to players whose teams didn't win anything, no matter how good one's performance was.
However, the reward receiver must be one of those who played a significant part in the team's success.
They tend to be strikers but not necessarily so. As you may remember Virgil van Dijk was #2 in the voting just after Messi in 2019 for helping Liverpool winning the UCL and he's a central defender.
He definitely was the best central defender of the world in that season but he would have never been voted so high in it if Liverpool didn't win the UCL.
I understand that, but still the end of the day the individual performance should mean more than the team performance, I'm not saying to give it to a player whose team didn't win anything big but in a situation where two teams with candidates for the Ballon d'Or get to win good trophies the individual performance should be what decides who win the Ballon d'Or and right now Kane is the most likely to win it as far as I'm concerned. that team trophies are important. But not be the sole reason. Two major trophies awarded, both candidates have made a good contribution. If individual performance is used, it should differentiate them. Consistency and big-game performances, goals and assists, and overall influence should be given a greater weight. Van Dijk's Champions League win last year was an example of just how much a win can help a player's cause, even for a defender. But Kane's output and effect so far is a solid case made for him. It's worth noting that it could be someone else for the rest of the season.
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Goals isn't the only criteria for a player to win the Ballon d'or. Normally players like Harry kane and Kylian are expected to score more goals than wingers or midfielders. If you Watch Barcelona last season, Lamine Yamal has the highest chance creation in his team and probably in La liga, because that's what his role is as winger. Because of that he was able to win the best player of the season over Kylian Mbappe, even though mbappe scored more goals. In the Bundesliga too, the Player of the season was also given to Olise , even though Harry Kane scored over 40 goals. This is why I feel this Ballon d'or will be tight and it's between Lamine Yamal and Harry Kane. Another player that I believe would win it, is Rodri due to being the best player in the FIFA world cup tournament, but is still don't think that will increase his chances of winning, he didn't give the type of Performance Messi gave in 2022 WC and also 2026 WC. But everything is in the hands of the Journalists, they are the one who decides the Winner.
You made some valid points regarding who will lift the Ballon d’Or, some people think that the moment you have scored lots of goals in a season that automatically you will win the Ballon d’Or but that’s a big lie. Harry Kane couldn’t win the best player of the league he plays his club football last season, and that will be against him during the voting. This year Ballon d’Or winner will come from the nation that won the FIFA World Cup, and that will be between Rodri and Lamin Yamal. If Spain didn’t have players in contention of the Ballon d’Or it would have been different. Erling Haaland lost the 2023 to Messi because of the World Cup consideration. Haaland had the best season of his career in the premier league, yet he lost it. So anyone counting on Harry Kane goals alone to get him the Ballon d’Or is making a mistake because it won’t happen. Lamin Yamal or Rodri will be the eventual winner.
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Goals isn't the only criteria for a player to win the Ballon d'or. Normally players like Harry kane and Kylian are expected to score more goals than wingers or midfielders. If you Watch Barcelona last season, Lamine Yamal has the highest chance creation in his team and probably in La liga, because that's what his role is as winger. Because of that he was able to win the best player of the season over Kylian Mbappe, even though mbappe scored more goals. In the Bundesliga too, the Player of the season was also given to Olise , even though Harry Kane scored over 40 goals. This is why I feel this Ballon d'or will be tight and it's between Lamine Yamal and Harry Kane. Another player that I believe would win it, is Rodri due to being the best player in the FIFA world cup tournament, but is still don't think that will increase his chances of winning, he didn't give the type of Performance Messi gave in 2022 WC and also 2026 WC. But everything is in the hands of the Journalists, they are the one who decides the Winner.
Exactly, goals number is not the only criteria for Balloon d'Or. For the rest of til now we never seen FIFA give a Balloon d'Or to those who just only scored more goals. Balloon d'Or have specific criteria like they scale through individuals performance (goal/assist/rating) and even team performance was also the part of this criteria. So in Kilyan Mbappe and Kane can't be fit in at this criteria..... Besides that if talk about Rodri then probably he won a World Cup title as well as have good performance at tournament like he Golden ball too. But Messi was much more deservable than Rodri for Golden Ball because Messi performance was much better than him and every one agree with me. However after this I just feel that Lamin Jamal is much favorite candidate than Rodri because people only draged Rodri due to Golden ball and WC title but now it's cleared that Golden ball decision was unfair. So Jamal will be teg man for Balloon d'Or
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Besides that if talk about Rodri then probably he won a World Cup title as well as have good performance at tournament like he Golden ball too. But Messi was much more deservable than Rodri for Golden Ball because Messi performance was much better than him and every one agree with me. However after this I just feel that Lamin Jamal is much favorite candidate than Rodri because people only draged Rodri due to Golden ball and WC title but now it's cleared that Golden ball decision was unfair.
So Jamal will be teg man for Balloon d'Or
No one is taking away from Messi's merit, but seeing that Argentina didn't win the World Cup makes him much less likely to win this award. Besides, with all the controversy surrounding Argentina and the perceived favoritism, the last thing anyone wants is to create another controversy. Rodri didn't do badly, nor did Lamine. The fact that they both won the World Cup should boost their chances of being chosen. Had Barcelona won the Champions League, it would undoubtedly have been Lamine's award.
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Rodri didn't do badly, nor did Lamine. The fact that they both won the World Cup should boost their chances of being chosen.
One was given the Best Player of the World Cup award whilst the other probably wasn't even considered for it. That's it, that's the difference. Both didn't achieve anything in the UCL last season so if the choice comes down to these two players, the winner is very obvious, there's no point in even arguing about it.
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You made some valid points regarding who will lift the Ballon d’Or, some people think that the moment you have scored lots of goals in a season that automatically you will win the Ballon d’Or but that’s a big lie. Harry Kane couldn’t win the best player of the league he plays his club football last season, and that will be against him during the voting. This year Ballon d’Or winner will come from the nation that won the FIFA World Cup, and that will be between Rodri and Lamin Yamal.
If Spain didn’t have players in contention of the Ballon d’Or it would have been different. Erling Haaland lost the 2023 to Messi because of the World Cup consideration. Haaland had the best season of his career in the premier league, yet he lost it. So anyone counting on Harry Kane goals alone to get him the Ballon d’Or is making a mistake because it won’t happen. Lamin Yamal or Rodri will be the eventual winner.
The way Balon D'or votes are done is in a way that they makes sure that all eligible voters cast their votes based on what they think it's worth it and according to the organizers, people that determine the votes don't know each other, this helps makes the voting system very solid and manipulated. We don't know the criteria that the voters are going to bring this time around but I can tell you that Rodri isn't going to win this Balon D'or, it's a shame to even include him. The people that are going to win it are all there and it has nothing to do with the word cup. Yamal had just one goal, when Mbape won the world cup he didn't win the Balon D'or and he did better than what he did in this word club. My fingers are pointing between Mbape and Kane but most importantly, Kane might have that award before Mbape because of how consistent he has been from the days he has been with Tottenham, the guy remains the best.
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Yes, that's the most logical thing to do, and therefore a very accurate analysis. I also think they could give it to them, but in terms of performance, I think the best player in the World Cup was Rodri. Lamine is always in the spotlight, waiting for his best plays, but Rodri did a very good job.
He wasn't the best play at the world cup. The best player at the World Cup was Messi, unless you hate Messi, you don't need to like him either. He lost the final but FIFA deliberately gave it to rodri to avoid another internet noise of FIFA help Messi to win this and that. Despite his contribution, he left with zero recognition because of his teammates behaviour at the World Cup. Yes Rodri won the best player right there but alot needs to be considered that will favour Yamal at the end . He won Zara Trophy, Best player in Laliga , Best player of the month in Laliga 4x . Super Copa del Espana winner , Laliga winner. Created so much wasted chances by Barcelona strikers , he's supposed to have nothing less than 25 assist. In short, I see Yamal having a fair advantage over rodri but nit Harry Kane .
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Goals isn't the only criteria for a player to win the Ballon d'or. Normally players like Harry kane and Kylian are expected to score more goals than wingers or midfielders. If you Watch Barcelona last season, Lamine Yamal has the highest chance creation in his team and probably in La liga, because that's what his role is as winger. Because of that he was able to win the best player of the season over Kylian Mbappe, even though mbappe scored more goals. In the Bundesliga too, the Player of the season was also given to Olise , even though Harry Kane scored over 40 goals. This is why I feel this Ballon d'or will be tight and it's between Lamine Yamal and Harry Kane. Another player that I believe would win it, is Rodri due to being the best player in the FIFA world cup tournament, but is still don't think that will increase his chances of winning, he didn't give the type of Performance Messi gave in 2022 WC and also 2026 WC. But everything is in the hands of the Journalists, they are the one who decides the Winner.
You made some valid points regarding who will lift the Ballon d’Or, some people think that the moment you have scored lots of goals in a season that automatically you will win the Ballon d’Or but that’s a big lie. Harry Kane couldn’t win the best player of the league he plays his club football last season, and that will be against him during the voting. This year Ballon d’Or winner will come from the nation that won the FIFA World Cup, and that will be between Rodri and Lamin Yamal. If Spain didn’t have players in contention of the Ballon d’Or it would have been different. Erling Haaland lost the 2023 to Messi because of the World Cup consideration. Haaland had the best season of his career in the premier league, yet he lost it. So anyone counting on Harry Kane goals alone to get him the Ballon d’Or is making a mistake because it won’t happen. Lamin Yamal or Rodri will be the eventual winner.New Judgement you have actually said it all... The manner you approached this from showed you truly are updated and knowledgeable about how Ballon d'Or award is given... I went through various comments, some guys are making their preference based in the goals a players scored during the season.. I even saw an image posted whereby Mbappe was placed at the number one, and some comment actually supported that simply because he is a goal machine.. Even though it is always stated that individual performance is part of the criteria for choosing the winner, I don't think that that is all they look at...From what I have experience in the past, Ballon d'Or isn't given based on the numbers of goals you had, if that was the case Ronaldo would have probably won it ahead of Dembele coz Ronaldo as we all know it has is currently to highest goal scorer of all time... World Cup is like a major decider...Rodri is a top choice for me..
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No one is taking away from Messi's merit, but seeing that Argentina didn't win the World Cup makes him much less likely to win this award. Besides, with all the controversy surrounding Argentina and the perceived favoritism, the last thing anyone wants is to create another controversy.
Are we still having to consider Messi in this! Man is a legend and belongs in the archives right now, the young lads have got to hold this at the moment. His performance in the World Cup was spectacular, no question but, the finals did cast a very large shadow on it all. Spain made the entire team look as though they didn’t come to compete or play the game. To give Messi for just participating in the World Cup would be a huge fraud. Rodri didn't do badly, nor did Lamine. The fact that they both won the World Cup should boost their chances of being chosen. Had Barcelona won the Champions League, it would undoubtedly have been Lamine's award.
They are the better contestants, coupled with Mbappe and Dembele. I truly do feel post between these guys.
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You made some valid points regarding who will lift the Ballon d’Or, some people think that the moment you have scored lots of goals in a season that automatically you will win the Ballon d’Or but that’s a big lie. Harry Kane couldn’t win the best player of the league he plays his club football last season, and that will be against him during the voting. This year Ballon d’Or winner will come from the nation that won the FIFA World Cup, and that will be between Rodri and Lamin Yamal.
If Spain didn’t have players in contention of the Ballon d’Or it would have been different. Erling Haaland lost the 2023 to Messi because of the World Cup consideration. Haaland had the best season of his career in the premier league, yet he lost it. So anyone counting on Harry Kane goals alone to get him the Ballon d’Or is making a mistake because it won’t happen. Lamin Yamal or Rodri will be the eventual winner.
The way Balon D'or votes are done is in a way that they makes sure that all eligible voters cast their votes based on what they think it's worth it and according to the organizers, people that determine the votes don't know each other, this helps makes the voting system very solid and manipulated. We don't know the criteria that the voters are going to bring this time around but I can tell you that Rodri isn't going to win this Balon D'or, it's a shame to even include him. The people that are going to win it are all there and it has nothing to do with the word cup. Yamal had just one goal, when Mbape won the world cup he didn't win the Balon D'or and he did better than what he did in this word club. My fingers are pointing between Mbape and Kane but most importantly, Kane might have that award before Mbape because of how consistent he has been from the days he has been with Tottenham, the guy remains the best. What has Rodri done compared to the performance of Mbappe, Lamine Yamel, Erling Haaland, Harry Kane, and Ousmane Dembele last season that they even published his name, Rodri is definitely out of the picture and neither is he going to win it this time regardless of whatever criteria they will be using this time to choose the award winner.
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