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[nicehash]

Yeah, like you're connected with an ethernet cable.

I get a little better numbers from my office - on westhash, not f2:

PING westhash.com (141.101.127.76): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 141.101.127.76: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=6.906 ms
64 bytes from 141.101.127.76: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=5.956 ms
64 bytes from 141.101.127.76: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=6.868 ms
64 bytes from 141.101.127.76: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=6.564 ms

Guys, guys, you are not pinging our stratum servers but CloudFlare's proxy servers for our web page which will always be close to you since CloudFlare has globally distributed infrastructure. But web servers has nothing to do with mining, you have to ping stratum servers to find your ping time. We have ping disabled on our stratum servers, but you can ping the endpoints of our provider's datacenters:

"ping speedtest.ams01.softlayer.com" for NiceHash
"ping speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com" for WestHash

this will give you ping results, relevant for miners your (should be below 100ms for optimal results) - of course you should ping from the location of your miners.

f2pool stratum address is stratum.f2pool.com

"ping stratum.f2pool.com" will give you ping results for f2pool connection.

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[dog1965]

ant 1 = Antminer S5
ant2 = Antminer S3 oc to 250mhz
ant3 = Antminer S3 defualt 225Mhz

Ant1 is giving me issues ant 2 and 3 or not ant2 is overclocked and ant3 is not. I am Getting a lot of rejected speed issues with the S5 ?

[dog1965]

How to you set DIFF manually if you use #XNSUB I heard you cant have multi parameters on the password line if you are using it. I dont like the DIFF values I am getting. I am getting a lot of HW errors that I dont get with F2POOL.COM ?

[pdx99]

Wrong info from me about the mining software. The Titan uses bfgminer v 5.0.0 so extranonce isn't an issue.

You will have to set #xnsub and #skipcbcheck manually, i.e., your pool url will be stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333/#xnsub#skipcbcheck .

Based on what the Westhash site recommends for difficulty I used 32768 which is the recommendation for a hashrate of 64MHs - 128MHs, although I'm over that at app 330-350 MH/s, but the 64 - 128 MH/s is the highest range on their chart.

Try to set the difficulty to 16384 - d=16384 . You can set the difficulty you like, you don't want to put the difficulty they recommended. If this is also not working, don't set any difficulty, just mine without difficulty parameter(d=X).

After 6 hours with that difficulty my hashrate is way lower than I get elsewhere (327 vs 340+ at clevermining) and rejects is at 6.8, so that difficulty isn't the answer.

I keep hearing (actually only from Nicehash/Westhash people) that the Titan works on Nicehash/Westhash and gets 350 MH/s with low rejects, etc but every time I try it I get lower hashrate and high rejects. I'll probably head back to clevermining - where my return might be very slightly less - but I can set the miner and forget it and get a high hashrate and low rejects.

Please do what I say and check whether it is okay!

   -MZ

Thanks for the additional feedback. I've been using the #xnsub and #skipbccheck all along based on a posting/recommendation on the KNCMiner forum on 1/10/15 which said the following:

    We suggest you to use #xnsub AND #skipcbcheck parameters to get stable mining on NiceHash or WestHash, example:

         stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com/#xnsub#skipcbcheck

       With those settings you'll be able to get a stable 350 Mh/s average speed with fw 1.95 overclocking at 325MHs.

**

And the poster posted this screenshot https://www.nicehash.com/imgs/KnC_Titan_NiceHash.png as "proof" but to me that looks like 320 MH/s over 1253 hours, not 350 and what looks like 0.00% rejects .

Based on the screenshot, about an hour ago I tried 16384 and I'm currently at an effective hashrate of 327 MH/s with a reject rate of 6.5% so I still apparently haven't located the secret decoder combination of settings which will get me mining at app 340-350 with a reject rate of around 1-2%.

After 20 hours with diff set to 8192, I had an effective rate of 326 MH/s and 7.1% rejects. So apparently the Titan still doesn't work very well at westhash/nicehash. Back to clevermining

[Muhammed Zakir]

How to you set DIFF manually if you use #XNSUB I heard you cant have multi parameters on the password line if you are using it. I dont like the DIFF values I am getting. I am getting a lot of HW errors that I dont get with F2POOL.COM ?

I have used price and difficulty parameters ecen after using #xnsub & #skipcbcheck and there was no problem. May I know the source of your hearing?

   -MZ

[Muhammed Zakir]

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After 20 hours with diff set to 8192, I had an effective rate of 326 MH/s and 7.1% rejects. So apparently the Titan still doesn't work very well at westhash/nicehash. Back to clevermining

Have you tried merge mining? Try using Ghash.io or Multipool.us merge mining to getvmore profit. I recommend Ghash.io . If you have any question about this, PM me, posting here is Off-topic.

   -MZ

[nbruce]

Hi,
Just a question about a notice that appeared on nicehash website today.
Just after the payout run, a notice appeared at the bottom of the worker info table. It said words to the effect of
"you have misconfigured miner(s) too much invalid work - see FAQs"

I looked at the  FAQs and found the FAQ related to scrypt mining and using an older version of cgminer

This message appeared on a page of SHA256 workers, of which 2 S3s are running your official cgminer binary and an S5 which has apparently been updated for extranonce compatibility.

I do run a few GC3355s through nicehash, but they a running through cpuminer and don't appear to be having any issues. The notice didn't appear on the scrypt page of my results anyway.

As it happens, the notice has disappeared from the SHA256 page too now.

Any clues ?

Thanks

[jkminkov]

trying to mine on westhash I put p=0.0122 and my miner is not mining put if I just put x as password it mines how to I set the p value ?

 

if you put a password for miner -> p=0.001 on your ant miner interface, it doesn't mine at all, same for d=1024 or some combination like p=0.001;d=1024

you need stratum proxy I guess...

[kreativling]

trying to mine on westhash I put p=0.0122 and my miner is not mining put if I just put x as password it mines how to I set the p value ?

 

if you put a password for miner -> p=0.001 on your ant miner interface, it doesn't mine at all, same for d=1024 or some combination like p=0.001;d=1024

you need stratum proxy I guess...

Make sure you do not use #XNSUB feature. Then p=0.01 should work.

[SunnyIgor]

Ant1 is giving me issues ant 2 and 3 or not ant2 is overclocked and ant3 is not. I am Getting a lot of rejected speed issues with the S5 ?

I have the same problem with my s5's, they have about 5% rejects on nicehash.
my s3's work fine btw.
did you find a solution?

[nicehash]

I have the same problem with my s5's, they have about 5% rejects on nicehash.
my s3's work fine btw.
did you find a solution?

AntMiner S5's are indeed having some minor issues when mining some particular low-diff and fast-work restart coins. Therefor in particular periods when these miners are working on such altcoin NiceHash/WestHash order they will produce some rejects. But on the long run these rejects shouldn't go above 2-3%. We've already notified Bitmain about this and hopefully they'll provide a patch in their upcoming firmware (we'll also leave a note in the AntMiner S5 bitcoin thread).

[SunnyIgor]

I have the same problem with my s5's, they have about 5% rejects on nicehash.
my s3's work fine btw.
did you find a solution?

AntMiner S5's are indeed having some minor issues when mining some particular low-diff and fast-work restart coins. Therefor in particular periods when these miners are working on such altcoin NiceHash/WestHash order they will produce some rejects. But on the long run these rejects shouldn't go above 2-3%. We've already notified Bitmain about this and hopefully they'll provide a patch in their upcoming firmware (we'll also leave a note in the AntMiner S5 bitcoin thread).

oke thanks for the info, hope they will fix it soon.

[topminingcontracts]

Still I make more than that on f2pool.com why would I want to use westhash ?

Keep in mind that f2pool takes 4% fee while NiceHash/WestHash only taks 2% and also keep in mind that f2pool stratum servers are far away for USA and EU users (China - as far as I now) - high latency will make you rejects and stales which will decrease your payouts - you have to take into consideration all parameters not only hashrate and prices.

Also, due to our special service implementation with extra rewards for miners on fast switching buying orders you have to monitor the actual earnings, not only hashrate of your miner, multiplied by predicted average direct Bitcoin mining. Our service has the most predictable and stable mining incomes, this is why many users stays at our pool even at declared below direct Bitcoin mining profits and this is because our stable and low latency connection and consistent payouts, - all this makes better then Bitcoin mining in short-term profit (not to mention the extreme spikes with high profits which happens once in a while ).

Thank you for using our service!

My 2 cents.

No doubts NiceHash/WestHash a better result than f2pool or any other PPS pool.

Is not a small difference will be 7-8% at least any day in favor to NiceHash/WestHash

Don't believe me run your own tests pointing 1 PH to each pool and check the result after 1 day.

Regards

Juan

[crk]

I don't know if is just me or anyone else is having the same problem that i have.. The total unpaid amount of BTcs is not been updated on the website but i can see that i'm getting some rewards on the graph.

[nicehash]

Hi,

Today we introduced an attractive feature for buyers of hashing power - fixed orders.

This type of order will allow you to place an order with fixed price and will guarantee you the the desired hashing speed through order's lifetime, even if there are other bidding orders with higher price submitted later on. You will have to pay a bit higher price in relation to current fixed orders demand. This type of order is especially appropriate for renters of smaller amount of hashing power who are seeking for a way to rent hashing power with a peace of mind with no need to watch over the order in case some other to over bid you. This is essentially the same as renting a physical miner or renting a physical rig, however you still retain all the benefits of renting hashing power by being able to cancel the order any time and pay only for accepted shares without any risk for faulty configured rigs. Needles to say that this type of renting is also prone to bots manipulation since the hashing power is dedicated to your order.

Please take a look at updated FAQ "How can I buy hash power at NiceHash?" for all the details.

So, if you're still in the old-school of directly renting rigs now is the time to upgrade to our Fixed orders - in most cases you will get a price well below directly renting miners or rigs while still preserving all the benefits of renting hashing power with the same careless experience as having your own on-demand miner or rig!

Thank you for using our service.

NiceHash

[dhsc19]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can improve this config for 280X GPU.  I am particularly interested in the settings for keccak.  All the other algos seem to hash very well.  My problem with keccak, I'm getting at least 20% reject either job not found or stale shares.

Code:

{
"pools" : [
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Scrypt",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4333",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "zuikkis",
                "intensity" : "13",
                "gpu-engine" : "1100",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Scrypt-N",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4335",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "nfactor" : "11",
                "algorithm" : "zuikkis",
                "intensity" : "13",
                "gpu-engine" : "1080",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X11",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4336",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "worksize" : "64",
                "algorithm" : "darkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X13",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4337",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "marucoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Keccak",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4338",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "maxcoin",
                "intensity" : "14",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X15",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4339",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "bitblock",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-NIST5",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4340",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "talkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-NeoScrypt",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4341",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "rawintensity" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "neoscrypt",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1350",
                "gpu-powertune" : "30",
                "worksize" : "64"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Lyra2RE",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4342",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "Lyra2RE",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X11-Last-Resort",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:3336",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "darkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        }
]
,
"xintensity" : "0",
"rawintensity" : "0",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-fan" : "30-85",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "-20",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "90",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "72",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-network" : true,
"api-port" : "4028",
"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : false,
"expiry" : "1",
"failover-switch-delay" : "30",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"no-submit-stale" : false,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"failover-only" : true,
"kernel-path" : "/home/user/Downloads/mining/sgminer/kernel"
}

[boki15]

Nice to see there is an update on nicehash, fixed orders are possible . Let's see how this will develop, I am positive about the change, thanks.

[boki15]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can improve this config for 280X GPU.  I am particularly interested in the settings for keccak.  All the other algos seem to hash very well.  My problem with keccak, I'm getting at least 20% reject either job not found or stale shares.

Code:

{
"pools" : [
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Scrypt",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4333",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "zuikkis",
                "intensity" : "13",
                "gpu-engine" : "1100",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Scrypt-N",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4335",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "nfactor" : "11",
                "algorithm" : "zuikkis",
                "intensity" : "13",
                "gpu-engine" : "1080",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X11",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4336",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "worksize" : "64",
                "algorithm" : "darkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X13",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4337",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "marucoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Keccak",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4338",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "maxcoin",
                "intensity" : "14",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X15",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4339",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "bitblock",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-NIST5",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4340",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "talkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-NeoScrypt",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4341",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "rawintensity" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "neoscrypt",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1350",
                "gpu-powertune" : "30",
                "worksize" : "64"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-Lyra2RE",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:4342",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "Lyra2RE",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        },
        {
                "name" : "WestHash-X11-Last-Resort",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.westhash.com:3336",
                "user" : "BTC_addr",
                "pass" : "x",
                "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
                "algorithm" : "darkcoin-mod",
                "intensity" : "18",
                "gpu-engine" : "1150",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500"
        }
]
,
"xintensity" : "0",
"rawintensity" : "0",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-fan" : "30-85",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "-20",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "90",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "72",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-network" : true,
"api-port" : "4028",
"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : false,
"expiry" : "1",
"failover-switch-delay" : "30",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"no-submit-stale" : false,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"failover-only" : true,
"kernel-path" : "/home/user/Downloads/mining/sgminer/kernel"
}

Maybe this helps, here is one of my neoscrypt settings for 280x (should work with most models), I use following settings:

Code:

                "algorithm" : "neoscrypt",
                "gpu-engine" : "1030",
                "gpu-memclock" : "1500",
                "gpu-powertune" : "20",
                "shaders" : "2048",
                "worksize" : "64",
                "thread-concurrency" : "16385",
                "intensity" : "13"

Depending on card I get 130-170 with 14.12. I am keeping GPU at 70°, increasing fan speed to 70% would give me <65°.

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Hi,

Today we introduced an attractive feature for buyers of hashing power - fixed orders.

This type of order will allow you to place an order with fixed price and will guarantee you the the desired hashing speed through order's lifetime, even if there are other bidding orders with higher price submitted later on. You will have to pay a bit higher price in relation to current fixed orders demand. This type of order is especially appropriate for renters of smaller amount of hashing power who are seeking for a way to rent hashing power with a peace of mind with no need to watch over the order in case some other to over bid you. This is essentially the same as renting a physical miner or renting a physical rig, however you still retain all the benefits of renting hashing power by being able to cancel the order any time and pay only for accepted shares without any risk for faulty configured rigs. Needles to say that this type of renting is also prone to bots manipulation since the hashing power is dedicated to your order.

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So, if you're still in the old-school of directly renting rigs now is the time to upgrade to our Fixed orders - in most cases you will get a price well below directly renting miners or rigs while still preserving all the benefits of renting hashing power with the same careless experience as having your own on-demand miner or rig!

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This new feature doesn't looks good for x13.
Now they can create a bot for the web interface waiting for low price and put a fixed order.
IMHO, fixed orders must be disabled for algo with low hashrate available.

https://i.imgur.com/qfIfZDA.png

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How do I get KNC Jupiter to mine properly with Nicehash. From time to time I keep getting a slower speed (25% slower) because it keeps reconnecting or submitting 0 shares.

How to enable the extranounce ?