[CLOSED] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 pre-order - Specs: 0.69$/GH + 0.46W/GH

[hardhouseinc]

Is that honestly even trustworthy???

Of course not. Unless he shows proof of payment.

Yah, but still...
What chance do you have they will even ship it to you after they receive it.
Seems unlikely to me.  Just seemed shady.

Well of course you don't want the customer shipping it to you. You just change the address and SP-Tech ships to you. There is no need to ship it to the owner of the order.

True, that would be the best case.
IF they held up their end to actually have that done though would remain to be seen.
Seems like a too good to be true auction if you won it and a low price.

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[sidhujag]

Is that honestly even trustworthy???

Of course not. Unless he shows proof of payment.

Yah, but still...
What chance do you have they will even ship it to you after they receive it.
Seems unlikely to me.  Just seemed shady.

Well of course you don't want the customer shipping it to you. You just change the address and SP-Tech ships to you. There is no need to ship it to the owner of the order.

True, that would be the best case.
IF they held up their end to actually have that done though would remain to be seen.
Seems like a too good to be true auction if you won it and a low price.

I am the developer for devcoin and I createdthis site it is backed by the devcoin community. It is funded by devcoin for profits back to devcoin. It is not too good to be true. There is a reserve of about 1% of the retail price so that the site doesnt lose its shirt. Some customer will be very lucky if they get in at the end and win.

[hardhouseinc]

Is there some sort of SAFE and reputable escrow service provided by your site?
For example, they have to provide proof of the order transfer by SP-Tech before their
funds are released to them?  That seems the safest method to me for something of a
high dollar value between parties who dont personally know each other.

[sidhujag]

Is there some sort of SAFE and reputable escrow service provided by your site?
For example, they have to provide proof of the order transfer by SP-Tech before their
funds are released to them?  That seems the safest method to me for something of a
high dollar value between parties who dont personally know each other.

That might be something I'll consider in the future to build trust, but I imagined the site to be like any other site that builds trust through time and usership.. as more people begin to use it the more trust collectively they will have. I would have to work escrow into the logistics side of things so as of now you know you can pay via paypal too so you have some kind of backout incase you don't get what you pay for.

[hardhouseinc]

I honestly have no idea how in the world this works.
I BUY bids... I assume they are non refundable.
You place BIDS, but how much does a BID mean....
I see a BUY bids link but no way to exchange BIDS to
BTC or however.  To me its really not the best system
IMHO.  The page looks nice but the system sounds
like some sort of shell game scam which makes me
MORE hesitant.  If the site owned and is selling that item,
then it makes more sense but I honestly cant
figure this thing out to really be safe at all here.  
Sorry.

[Biffa]

I honestly have no idea how in the world this works.
I BUY bids... I assume they are non refundable.
You place BIDS, but how much does a BID mean....
I see a BUY bids link but no way to exchange BIDS to
BTC or however.  To me its really not the best system
IMHO.  The page looks nice but the system sounds
like some sort of shell game scam which makes me
MORE hesitant.  If the site owned and is selling that item,
then it makes more sense but I honestly cant
figure this thing out to really be safe at all here.  
Sorry.

Maybe it could be discussed in a thread where scammers and their prey could hash it out rather than this thread.

[Bicknellski]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

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Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

[sidhujag]

I honestly have no idea how in the world this works.
I BUY bids... I assume they are non refundable.
You place BIDS, but how much does a BID mean....
I see a BUY bids link but no way to exchange BIDS to
BTC or however.  To me its really not the best system
IMHO.  The page looks nice but the system sounds
like some sort of shell game scam which makes me
MORE hesitant.  If the site owned and is selling that item,
then it makes more sense but I honestly cant
figure this thing out to really be safe at all here.  
Sorry.

Did you read how it works page? Its a bidding fee auction system http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidding_fee_auction

Bids are refunded if the reserve is not met (around 1% of thr retail price)..

I do have an option where you can use Buy Now skipping the whole bidding system but then you would be paying retail price anyway so it only makes sense where I can get a high volume discount(smaller things) for a Buy Now to work. That would give ability to function as a regular checkout type site aswell as auction site. I will have this later as it gets busier.

Its basically quibids for cryptos but without the
bots..

[merv77]

if anyone has used quibids you'll know that it's a very shifty way to rip off people that don't understand how these type of auctions work.
once you find out then you'll never go back because of the way it works.

example.  you bid 0.01 cent increments and each 0.01 cent bid cost to buy $2.50

example 2. if you win (or someone wins) an iphone for $50,
               then it's calculated $50 * 100 = 5000 bids
               5000 * $2.50 = $12,500.00

in other words they sold the iphone for $12,500.00


BTW, isn't quibids band/illegal in the USA

[sidhujag]

if anyone has used quibids you'll know that it's a very shifty way to rip off people that don't understand how these type of auctions work.
once you find out then you'll never go back because of the way it works.

example.  you bid 0.01 cent increments and each 0.01 cent bid cost to buy $2.50

example 2. if you win (or someone wins) an iphone for $50,
               then it's calculated $50 * 100 = 5000 bids
               5000 * $2.50 = $12,500.00

in other words they sold the iphone for $12,500.00


BTW, isn't quibids band/illegal in the USA

No it wasnt a ripoff until they allowed bots and then had their own bots bid prices up.

Its profitable for the site yes. But usually they dont go that high.. and one person doesnt bid that much. If you do and still lose it will be part of the risk of landing a great deal. Most of the time you will end up paying less than retail while the site is still profitable. Thats a win win.

Each bid is less than $1 not $2.50. Later I will have a buy it now anyway so that if you bid and dont win you can still buy at retail cost and get your bids back. So where is the ripoff? Quibids and their bots were its demise.

[hardhouseinc]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

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Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

My god bro...



I deleted most of it already.
Anything left in there is BFL bashing.
I left a few to post on the BFL forums one more time when they don't count
my entries, IF they ever do, since they don't like me for all the BFL bashing Ive
done here.   I think were both on the same side here but you obviously wont
ever let anything go even when people APOLOGIZE.  My gulay!!

[RoadStress]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

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Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

I think he posted false trust remarks for the incentive tard Josh Zerlan gave for abusing the trust system. He figured what sort of company is BFL afterwords and he is surely regretting buying from them.

Yes shipment is with DHL.

@hardhouseinc I am sure that you learned you lesson from this. Next time don't get so easily attracted to free stuff.

[hardhouseinc]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

--

Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

I think he posted false trust remarks for the incentive tard Josh Zerlan gave for abusing the trust system. He figured what sort of company is BFL afterwords and he is surely regretting buying from them.

Yes shipment is with DHL.

@hardhouseinc I am sure that you learned you lesson from this. Next time don't get so easily attracted to free stuff.

Its honestly my bad, in more ways than one.
I had signed up for an account here like a week before that contest started.
I never read much here AT ALL before I bought from them.
I saw they shipped stuff already so how long could it take them right?
So, I admit, I didnt know ENOUGH about them to have ordered from them.
I should have read more here like I have since I saw that contest.
Honestly, that contest led me to read more here on BTCTalk.
I found out about FTC complaint, Wood Law lawsuit, other good info.
SO, in the end, BFL turned me on to the truth with it, so thanks for that.
This dude holds a grudge till he dies and obviously doesnt ahve fun with life,
just let things go that arent a bid deal, or ever just be a cool dude.  I have
nothing against him and see why he was targeted here after seeing all his old
posts.

I honestly wana see what they have to say when none of my entries show up in
the contest IF it ever gets produced....

RoadStress turned me onto a GOOD company, AKA SP-Tech when I started reading
the BFL bashing threads so win number 2 for getting turned toward reading more here.

So far SP-Tech has BFL crushed and destroyed in all departments so count me as
a loyal customer here.

BTW, sorry to clutter up your thread sir.

[RoadStress]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

--

Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

I think he posted false trust remarks for the incentive tard Josh Zerlan gave for abusing the trust system. He figured what sort of company is BFL afterwords and he is surely regretting buying from them.

Yes shipment is with DHL.

@hardhouseinc I am sure that you learned you lesson from this. Next time don't get so easily attracted to free stuff.

Its honestly my bad, in more ways than one.
I had signed up for an account here like a week before that contest started.
I never read much here AT ALL before I bought from them.
I saw they shipped stuff already so how long could it take them right?
So, I admit, I didnt know ENOUGH about them to have ordered from them.
I should have read more here like I have since I saw that contest.
Honestly, that contest led me to read more here on BTCTalk.
I found out about FTC complaint, Wood Law lawsuit, other good info.
SO, in the end, BFL turned me on to the truth with it, so thanks for that.
This dude holds a grudge till he dies and obviously doesnt ahve fun with life,
just let things go that arent a bid deal, or ever just be a cool dude.  I have
nothing against him and see why he was targeted here after seeing all his old
posts.

I honestly wana see what they have to say when none of my entries show up in
the contest IF it ever gets produced....

RoadStress turned me onto a GOOD company, AKA SP-Tech when I started reading
the BFL bashing threads so win number 2 for getting turned toward reading more here.

So far SP-Tech has BFL crushed and destroyed in all departments so count me as
a loyal customer here.

BTW, sorry to clutter up your thread sir.

No worries as long as you 2 make some kind of peace. His war against BFL will never cease as long as they are still in the Bitcoin mining business. You will have the trust system stigma all the time. Just live with it and accept it.

You learned the hard way how Josh Zerlan the liar and the scammer is doing his business. Next time just do a bit of research before investing/sending money to anyone/any company.

Just enjoy your new miners and happy mining to both of you.

[hardhouseinc]

YUP!!! My SP10s just cleared customs.
Hopefully delivered today but probably tomorrow
since DHL is slower to deliver the last 2 hour drive
here than they are the distance from Isreal to Tokyo
with previous delivers just coming from China.
NO clue how that works.
They shipped a small box from HongKong to Tokyo in 8 hours.
It took two more days to get to my house after only spending
2 hours in customs.  NO CLUE how they operate like that when
you pay that kind of money for EXPRESS shipping.

[Bicknellski]

Besides the fact the guy has no integrity to start with posting false trust remarks. Why would any believe he is concerned about fraud?

See here: hardhouseinc

--

Shipment is with DHL is it Roadstress / Spondoolies Tech?

Keen on having DHL as sending it to Norway S2 taking way longer than it should. Held up in customs in Oslo with UPS. Bitmain drop the shipping ball on that or UPS not sure which. Aggg... 5 days in Customs waiting. Not good.

I think he posted false trust remarks for the incentive tard Josh Zerlan gave for abusing the trust system. He figured what sort of company is BFL afterwords and he is surely regretting buying from them.

Yes shipment is with DHL.

@hardhouseinc I am sure that you learned you lesson from this. Next time don't get so easily attracted to free stuff.

Its honestly my bad, in more ways than one.
I had signed up for an account here like a week before that contest started.
I never read much here AT ALL before I bought from them.
I saw they shipped stuff already so how long could it take them right?
So, I admit, I didnt know ENOUGH about them to have ordered from them.
I should have read more here like I have since I saw that contest.
Honestly, that contest led me to read more here on BTCTalk.
I found out about FTC complaint, Wood Law lawsuit, other good info.
SO, in the end, BFL turned me on to the truth with it, so thanks for that.
This dude holds a grudge till he dies and obviously doesnt ahve fun with life,
just let things go that arent a bid deal, or ever just be a cool dude.  I have
nothing against him and see why he was targeted here after seeing all his old
posts.

I honestly wana see what they have to say when none of my entries show up in
the contest IF it ever gets produced....

RoadStress turned me onto a GOOD company, AKA SP-Tech when I started reading
the BFL bashing threads so win number 2 for getting turned toward reading more here.

So far SP-Tech has BFL crushed and destroyed in all departments so count me as
a loyal customer here.

BTW, sorry to clutter up your thread sir.

No worries as long as you 2 make some kind of peace. His war against BFL will never cease as long as they are still in the Bitcoin mining business. You will have the trust system stigma all the time. Just live with it and accept it.

You learned the hard way how Josh Zerlan the liar and the scammer is doing his business. Next time just do a bit of research before investing/sending money to anyone/any company.

Just enjoy your new miners and happy mining to both of you.

Seems to be no peace. The false trust ratings on my name still persist that he posted and he still keeps posting new ones each day. Not happy with this hypocrite. Solution is for him to remove the negative posts against me Dogie and Theymos as well as removing the POSITIVE posts for BFL he leaves each day. I will simply keep calling him out on him being a hypocrite whenever it is relevant to do so. He has NO ETHICS and continues negative posts each day. Sad man he is just sad.


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Thanks for the REPLY waiting on DHL in August Woot!

[hardhouseinc]

Done, now the only person here with negative feedback for no reason is me.
And BTW, I hadnt posted anything new in over a week when you posted there sir.

Gee, now Im the one with negative feedback from you and your chronies and I feel
wronged.  Maybe I should throw a 10 year old temper tantrum like someone here.
GULAY!!

I hope you can chill out now and quit the 3rd grade name calling.

I hoped to have another reason to call out BFL for fraudsters, but now I dont have
the chance.  Booo

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Back to the real matters at hand here.
Got my SP10s up and hashing.
Zvisha is EXTRA helpful and helped me tune both of them.
Just top notch customer service from SP-Tech from start to anytime you need help.
You cant beat their level of service ANYWHERE IMHO!!!

[zvisha]

Thanks!

[Bicknellski]

Done, now the only person here with negative feedback for no reason is me.
And BTW, I hadnt posted anything new in over a week when you posted there sir.

Gee, now Im the one with negative feedback from you and your chronies and I feel
wronged.  Maybe I should throw a 10 year old temper tantrum like someone here.
GULAY!!

I hope you can chill out now and quit the 3rd grade name calling.

I hoped to have another reason to call out BFL for fraudsters, but now I dont have
the chance.  Booo

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Back to the real matters at hand here.
Got my SP10s up and hashing.
Zvisha is EXTRA helpful and helped me tune both of them.
Just top notch customer service from SP-Tech from start to anytime you need help.
You cant beat their level of service ANYWHERE IMHO!!!

You need to contact dogie, littled and anyone else who posted Negative feedback on you.

I have removed my negative feed back on you.

[stienski]

f anyone wants to sell please hmu!