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March 13, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
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Well we all know about your promises not being kept over the years, that's what lead the project into the current situation Smiley

The difference between the two scenarios:

First, I've made no promises here, only a commitment to follow through with exchange listings. Second, my efforts have been only been bottle necked by external forces i.e. lack of documentation, proper API requirement, etc., which I organized and funded in order for Kucoin to list the project.

https://news.kucoin.com/en/kucoin-will-list-boolberrybbr-on-31st-october/
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pull/56


Instead of attempting to blame shift the current state of the project and marketcap into my court and cause unnecessary conflict - why don't you focus on improving your release schedule and announcement structure?

The real hype within this community has been centered around your development roadmap. That's been the hype ever since you came here with a proposal to reboot development under your stewardship. Three months later, on Saturday, you make an announcement about a new website but make no mention about the centerpiece of it - the roadmap.

The community here and any potential BBR investor needs clarity on the milestones you're working on. A public development roadmap is a critical part of any successful cryptocurrency project. The lead developer posts a roadmap, outlining their short, medium or long term goals and the community decides if its worth investing or not. No journalist can even cover your announcement/roadmap yet because nobody knows the value proposition:

Example 1: How/Why is your LMDB implementation an improvement over Monero? Why not simply take IceBreakers advice and "rebase" to Monero?
Example 2: Why are resources being dedicated to redoing the GUI wallet? What improvements will it have over the current system?

These are basic examples of what the general crypto community is looking for in order to get genuinely excited about the project, not trivial posts about who is responsible for hype. I think we all here want this project to be successful but I don't think that is possible if you don't show a level of professionalism with Boolberry announcements i.e. releasing unfinished website, not addressing important topics.. If the leadership here can't showcase value to current holders then they have no hopes of getting outside investment.

Here are some tips to showcase value:

Mondays and Thursdays are the best time to make announcements, not Saturday or Sunday when the market is AFK. Monday starts the week and Thursday carries the weekend. Try getting on a regular announcement schedule instead of this random nonsense. If you want this project to be taken seriously by professionals then start being professional here.

Start listening to the community instead of trying to run a dictatorship. If the community says raising the mining tax to fund the project initiatives is OK, then it's OK. This is called consensus and is the way to operate in the cryptospace. I would have hashappliance be the steward of these funds, it would be a lot more confidence inspiring.

I've recruited a world class team of marketing professionals to this project. Utilize their expertise instead of discouraging them by trying to micro manage every aspect of the project. There was no feedback given to any of them prior to migrating the website to a live server. When you have resources like that available it would be a good idea use the same cooperative workflow instead of doing so after the fact.

Lastly, don't try to make scapegoats out of proactive holders. It doesn't set a good trend to inspire others to contribute time, resources or capital into this project. I may have a lot of energy but that is because I've been living this life for a long time and the competitive pace at which things move here is very fast. If you don't have the energy to keep this pace then you shouldn't be involved in these projects.

Anyways, I hope this helps you understand what the project needs to move forward. We all look forward to hearing the unique value propositions for the milestones on your roadmap.

Thank you for your feedback, we will discuss, and take your thoughts into consideration. To be clear, we appreciate your efforts with exchanges and community, we just want do things in a bit different way, with consensus in the team.

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March 13, 2018, 11:10:18 AM
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.

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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.
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Greetings everyone. Today I would like to introduce the first Boolberry Improvement Proposal or BBIP-001, entitled Boolberry V2: Efficient Compact Decentralized Anonymous Payments via Ring Signatures.

This is the culmination of roughly 9 months of research and development by my R&D group, Chainmasons, into improving the existing efficiency of the Boolberry variant of the Cryptonote protocol. We believe our proposed system is the 3rd iteration of the Cryptonote protocol as it represents a major leap forward for the underlying protocol not present in any other system.

Boolberry in it's current state is not quite ready for major improvements like this one until it's existing memory issues are resolved. Although, as we approach that eventuality in the coming month we would like to introduce this proposal so that it goes through the proper scrutiny and public peer review before being introduced as an upgrade to the system. We hope this proposal will be the first of many like it to help further research and development of Boolberry.

Any positive and constructive feedback is welcomed and will be credited in the "thanks" section located at the end of the draft. We will be submitting this for publication to IACR in the coming days so will appreciate any and all contributions. Additionally, if there are any misrepresentation with regards to the contents of the draft please inform us and we will fix them.

We hope that you enjoy our research and find it enlightening.

Here is the ePrint draft v1.0 –> http://docdro.id/rzmGj7b
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March 13, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
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Awesome Baha, this is much welcomed research into ring-sig. I have a lot of appreciation for the efforts you have put in to making this happen, thank you.
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March 13, 2018, 05:33:09 PM
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Awesome Baha, this is much welcomed research into ring-sig. I have a lot of appreciation for the efforts you have put in to making this happen, thank you.

Thanks crypjunkie! Much appreciated!
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March 13, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.
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Greetings everyone. Today I would like to introduce the first Boolberry Improvement Proposal or BBIP-001, entitled Boolberry V2: Efficient Compact Decentralized Anonymous Payments via Ring Signatures.

This is the culmination of roughly 9 months of research and development by my R&D group, Chainmasons, into improving the existing efficiency of the Boolberry variant of the Cryptonote protocol. We believe our proposed system is the 3rd iteration of the Cryptonote protocol as it represents a major leap forward for the underlying protocol not present in any other system.

Boolberry in it's current state is not quite ready for major improvements like this one until it's existing memory issues are resolved. Although, as we approach that eventuality in the coming month we would like to introduce this proposal so that it goes through the proper scrutiny and public peer review before being introduced as an upgrade to the system. We hope this proposal will be the first of many like it to help further research and development of Boolberry.

Any positive and constructive feedback is welcomed and will be credited in the "thanks" section located at the end of the draft. We will be submitting this for publication to IACR in the coming days so will appreciate any and all contributions. Additionally, if there are any misrepresentation with regards to the contents of the draft please inform us and we will fix them.

We hope that you enjoy our research and find it enlightening.

Here is the ePrint draft v1.0 –> http://docdro.id/rzmGj7b

CZ, I was really impressed by this paper when I reviewed it earlier, what are your thoughts on it?

                                     
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March 14, 2018, 01:55:05 AM
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Greetings everyone. Today I would like to introduce the first Boolberry Improvement Proposal or BBIP-001, entitled Boolberry V2: Efficient Compact Decentralized Anonymous Payments via Ring Signatures.

This is the culmination of roughly 9 months of research and development by my R&D group, Chainmasons, into improving the existing efficiency of the Boolberry variant of the Cryptonote protocol. We believe our proposed system is the 3rd iteration of the Cryptonote protocol as it represents a major leap forward for the underlying protocol not present in any other system.

Boolberry in it's current state is not quite ready for major improvements like this one until it's existing memory issues are resolved. Although, as we approach that eventuality in the coming month we would like to introduce this proposal so that it goes through the proper scrutiny and public peer review before being introduced as an upgrade to the system. We hope this proposal will be the first of many like it to help further research and development of Boolberry.

Any positive and constructive feedback is welcomed and will be credited in the "thanks" section located at the end of the draft. We will be submitting this for publication to IACR in the coming days so will appreciate any and all contributions. Additionally, if there are any misrepresentation with regards to the contents of the draft please inform us and we will fix them.

We hope that you enjoy our research and find it enlightening.

Here is the ePrint draft v1.0 –> http://docdro.id/rzmGj7b
Thanks for the update, because your hard work bbr project will be better. Grin
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March 14, 2018, 04:20:47 AM
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As described above, if you are sending from an exchange to a local wallet, you do not need a payment ID.  If you send coins to an exchange, then you must use the address and payment ID field. 

The payment ID field acts similar to a "for further credit to (FFC)" when wiring funds through an intermediary bank. An exchange, regardless of size, can use a single wallet address for all incoming deposits from all customers. The payment ID field is what is associated with your actual account on the exchange, it is likely that all users will have the exact same incoming address, but each account will always have a different payment ID.  The payment ID is the method of tracking where the deposit came from, and what account to credit. 

When using Bitcoin or Bitcoin based coins (which is 95+% of all coins) the incoming deposit address is associated with a specific account at an exchange.  With Cryptonote coins, which allows sender / receiver privacy from a single address, the payment ID is the portion that specifies the ultimate destination, whereas the "address" only makes sure that the coins get to the exchange's wallet.   

It is very important to make sure you include this payment id information when sending to an exchange.

To be clear, this is not an issue with Boolberry, this was an oversight by that specific exchange when they did their integration, and to eliminate the possibility of funds being lost we have asked them to suspend trading indefinitely.

Again, ALL transfers from Stocks.ex should be to a local wallet.  Do not attempt to send to another account at Stocks.ex or any another exchange or account on another exchange.

Hope this clarifies the issue and reasoning behind the warnings and the request that was made to halt trading.  We are only trying to protect the user experience, and until that exchange fixes their issues, we want to protect our constituency by avoiding use of their platform.

What kind of nonsense?

Stocks.ex - use Boolberry address and Payment Id
btc-alpha.com - use Boolberry address and Payment Id

And trading was stopped only on one exchange ! ...
What are you putting noodles on our ears?

money has already been credited to the stock exchange
and who will withdraw them from the stock exchange is no longer important, the miner or buyer
no loss of money from trading on the exchange does not happen!
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Greetings everyone. Today I would like to introduce the first Boolberry Improvement Proposal or BBIP-001, entitled Boolberry V2: Efficient Compact Decentralized Anonymous Payments via Ring Signatures.

This is the culmination of roughly 9 months of research and development by my R&D group, Chainmasons, into improving the existing efficiency of the Boolberry variant of the Cryptonote protocol. We believe our proposed system is the 3rd iteration of the Cryptonote protocol as it represents a major leap forward for the underlying protocol not present in any other system.

Boolberry in it's current state is not quite ready for major improvements like this one until it's existing memory issues are resolved. Although, as we approach that eventuality in the coming month we would like to introduce this proposal so that it goes through the proper scrutiny and public peer review before being introduced as an upgrade to the system. We hope this proposal will be the first of many like it to help further research and development of Boolberry.

Any positive and constructive feedback is welcomed and will be credited in the "thanks" section located at the end of the draft. We will be submitting this for publication to IACR in the coming days so will appreciate any and all contributions. Additionally, if there are any misrepresentation with regards to the contents of the draft please inform us and we will fix them.

We hope that you enjoy our research and find it enlightening.

Here is the ePrint draft v1.0 –> http://docdro.id/rzmGj7b
Thanks for the update, because your hard work bbr project will be better. Grin

Thank you for the kind words! For those that would like to follow along, I have created a separate thread to get feedback from the academic community.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3118418.0
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March 14, 2018, 06:16:47 PM
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.

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The price of crypto is under G20 influence
https://www.g20.org/en/calendar

Incoming Dates to observe, where they will discuss about Crypto: 
* 17.-18.3.2018 Meeting of Finance and Central Bank Deputies
* 19.-20.3.2018 Meeting of Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors

Lets hope they will not find consensus among all G20 and central banks. 
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.

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I have some good news everyone! It looks like Kucoin is finished integrating most of the APIs. I'm waiting for them to confirm when we'll be able to start testing deposits and withdrawals.
so much hype so little action with this project. At some point the project has to move forward. asking for donations when the lead dev goes dark and nothing is done is a joke! its too bad but one person can't make a coin successful these days. so many other better more focused projects. I'm still holding my position but not my breath!

I wouldn't say this is a lot of hype. As far as I can remember Boolberry was hardly ever a hyped coin at all. It's a pity though that there wasn't constant development.

"... one person can't make a coin successful these days...."  - I agree with this, and that's why i brought here two people that i personally know pretty good and count on them (i mean PRavaga and wnntaler). And also we have Clintar, who was here, supported this project alllll this time(!), we have Johnny(hashappliance) who making such a big efforts to promote project, and i believe we'll have new people in our team in near future.

"hype" is actually taking a place mostly by efforts of b4h4mu7, this guy has sooo much energy Smiley
I think the problem is that b4h4mu7 is giving a lot of promises which is not happening, high expectations lead to big disappointments.
And there is nothing we can do with this, he is speaking from himself, not on behalf of Boolberry team.

Anyway, i think we'll figure our how to use all this energy in some good way!


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Is it now absolutely certain that you and your colleagues are going to work full time on Boolberry? How will development be paid for? What if you see another more profitable option, will you still stick with Boolberry or just leave?


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March 16, 2018, 09:03:20 AM
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Any change to get back in with cryptopia? their exchange is pretty good with no limits too which many of those interested in anon coins will especially like
I reached out to them months ago and again in December but still haven't seen any response from them. If anyone knows anyone there they are more than welcome to open up a dialog with them. This is a decentralized project so anyone can help the project! Feel free to reach out to them about relisting the project.
 

i try contact to them.pm you if needed.


wrote to them to support@cryptopia.co.nz and create ticket in my account on cryptopia.

also i find this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674315.360
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/1837

so we can create community request thread or write post to “listing cryptopia thread” to reach them if needed.



that's what they told me:



Thank you for contacting Cryptopia support.

All coin listings on Cryptopia must be applied for via this page:

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Paytopia

Just choose the option that suits your needs the best, and fill in all the required details. Administrators will review the coin/code and begin the listing process as soon as possible. If for any reason the listing is rejected due to incompatibility, or failing the code review, the full listing price will be immediately refunded to your account.

If you have further queries, please raise a support ticket with the specifics that can be looked at and answered directly by a member of our Wallet team:

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/UserSupport

I hope this clears things up for you and best of luck with getting your coin listed.

Regards,
Cryptopia Support

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March 16, 2018, 11:32:41 AM
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I have some good news everyone! It looks like Kucoin is finished integrating most of the APIs. I'm waiting for them to confirm when we'll be able to start testing deposits and withdrawals.
so much hype so little action with this project. At some point the project has to move forward. asking for donations when the lead dev goes dark and nothing is done is a joke! its too bad but one person can't make a coin successful these days. so many other better more focused projects. I'm still holding my position but not my breath!

I wouldn't say this is a lot of hype. As far as I can remember Boolberry was hardly ever a hyped coin at all. It's a pity though that there wasn't constant development.

"... one person can't make a coin successful these days...."  - I agree with this, and that's why i brought here two people that i personally know pretty good and count on them (i mean PRavaga and wnntaler). And also we have Clintar, who was here, supported this project alllll this time(!), we have Johnny(hashappliance) who making such a big efforts to promote project, and i believe we'll have new people in our team in near future.

"hype" is actually taking a place mostly by efforts of b4h4mu7, this guy has sooo much energy Smiley
I think the problem is that b4h4mu7 is giving a lot of promises which is not happening, high expectations lead to big disappointments.
And there is nothing we can do with this, he is speaking from himself, not on behalf of Boolberry team.

Anyway, i think we'll figure our how to use all this energy in some good way!


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Is it now absolutely certain that you and your colleagues are going to work full time on Boolberry? How will development be paid for? What if you see another more profitable option, will you still stick with Boolberry or just leave?

Hi OZmaster
We do work full time on Boolberry, and to make project more safe and less depend from one person i brought colleagues here.
With help of hashappliance we get connected with significant holders who expressed their interest in supporting project and committed to fund our efforts.

More detailed development plan can be found on our website: https://boolberry.com/#roadmap

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Zoidberg, thank you for confirming full commitment to the project, its nice to see you active. As nice as this is, we cant afford any type of oppresion for entusiasts of this project (namely b4h4mu7 and 1blockologist come to my mind) who tried to bring project to life. I know they are probably doing it for profit (everybody does, there is nothing at all to blame), but they bring so much "energy" as you said, that cannot be ignored. They invested large sums of money to do something and its very honorable the least of all things!

I urge you to use these people resources and enthusiasm for better product. If it is marketing, or design, or community building, OR great research paper I have seen from b4h4mu7, this is basically too big to be ignored. Please work with them, work with their ideas. Try to find common ground for communication and improve the project where you can.

I am often not good at communicating my thoughts, so Im sorry if I accidentally offended someone. This all is meant only as constructive criticism, as I feel it from this forum. Please take only the best of this.

Yours
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March 16, 2018, 01:58:47 PM
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.
voted!

Why don't boolberry be listed in some major exchanges? I mean this coin deserves the best exchange and to attract more traders so the trading volume will increase as well.
My vote ( if ever ) goes to kucoin and hitbtc.

 
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March 16, 2018, 05:18:20 PM
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Come on people ... vote for BOOLBERRY at https://acc.vicex.io/   Smiley Vote every 24 hours...it's free.
voted!

Why don't boolberry be listed in some major exchanges? I mean this coin deserves the best exchange and to attract more traders so the trading volume will increase as well.
My vote ( if ever ) goes to kucoin and hitbtc.

Thanks for Vote!
We work hard to get listed on exchanges, but i thing it's gonna take some time to build the confidence to me again and to a team.


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