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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4669574 times)
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January 25, 2016, 09:25:37 PM
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That sounds like fiat.  To me cash is both the physical and private form of fiat.

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January 25, 2016, 09:43:45 PM
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Am I missing something? How is cash digital?


Wire transfer, interact transfer, visa, etc.  You can transfer fiat electronically in many ways however none of them are decentralized.



Nor private.

IMO that diagram is confusing: Fiat money can't be digital and private at the same time, it can be private only in the form of cash, which is not digital.

It works fine if you just remove the dollar bills from the "digital" circle and only put them in the "private" circle.

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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January 25, 2016, 09:54:12 PM
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I think it's a good idea to explain the pillars of Monero but in my opinion I don't think is a good idea to display the gold, cash and bitcoin. Wouldn't it be better to show an icon with the blockchain+privacy+digital coin. Perhaps, a cool icon mixing a blockchain map(1), a lock(2) and a coin being created out of 1&2 and binary numbers fading from the coin to imply that's digital.

It's just an idea  Wink
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January 25, 2016, 10:25:08 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2016, 10:38:36 PM by 1337leet
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I don't know what CPU miner that is but with the right one you should get something like 150 from CPU alone. Try 3 threads for a start.


And which is the right one?

I use yam for the cpu
look here if want to use that pool.
https://moneropool.com/#getting_started

I dont think that gpu can give much...how much does it say?

I don't wanna change pools.
It says 70 H/s for the CPU.



Use the the yam miner- it should give better than you are getting now.  
The gpu is pretty useless for mining.
I got the right version now - but I can't handle the setup. It doesn't start at all....

My current setup is this:
miner -t 6 -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.com:3333 -u Adress -p x

Yam miner tells me to use it this way....
yam -c x -M stratum+tcp://YOUR_EMAIL%40DOMAIN.COM:x@mro.pool.minergate.com:45560/xmr

But I can't fit my adress in this command the way it works...
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January 25, 2016, 10:26:41 PM
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server error on mymonero now.
Is there tutorial on how to import mymonero wallet to simple wallet?
Thinking on running fullnode now that I have stable internet connection.

There is no off-the-shelf way to do this. There is code (useful for an Oh Shit solution if MyMonero went offline permanently or for an extended period) but there are also issues with merging it directly.

In practice the easiest and best way to do this, albeit with a 10 XMR fee, is to create a wallet with simplewallet, and then import that wallet in MyMonero. You will then be able to access it both ways.


Easier still is generating with one of the offline generators (simplewallet is one). As long as you log into MyMonero with the seed prior to actually sending the account any funds, you don't need to pay the import fee.

Basically, just use 25 word seeds instead of 13 word seeds.
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January 25, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
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One could make the case for slight variations in the diagram, but overall the diagram is accurate.

For example:
   1. "Hand me the cash that is on the table." This is referring only to physical fiat.

   2. "Wire the cash to me," or, "Wire the money to me." This is also cash even if it's not physical for part of all of the transaction.

Both are cash. There's not a sphere for "physical" and I don't think it's needed.

It seems the point of the diagram is to showcase the differences/relationships between fiat, gold, Monero, and Bitcoin. If someone wants to communicate the pillars of Monero, another diagram can be created for that.

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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January 26, 2016, 01:54:11 AM
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Am I missing something? How is cash digital?


Wire transfer, interact transfer, visa, etc.  You can transfer fiat electronically in many ways however none of them are decentralized.



Nor private.

IMO that diagram is confusing: Fiat money can't be digital and private at the same time, it can be private only in the form of cash, which is not digital.

It works fine if you just remove the dollar bills from the "digital" circle and only put them in the "private" circle.

I think there should be a credit card with the fiat as they are pretty much interwoven.

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January 26, 2016, 02:21:15 AM
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server error on mymonero now.
Is there tutorial on how to import mymonero wallet to simple wallet?
Thinking on running fullnode now that I have stable internet connection.

There is no off-the-shelf way to do this. There is code (useful for an Oh Shit solution if MyMonero went offline permanently or for an extended period) but there are also issues with merging it directly.

In practice the easiest and best way to do this, albeit with a 10 XMR fee, is to create a wallet with simplewallet, and then import that wallet in MyMonero. You will then be able to access it both ways.


Easier still is generating with one of the offline generators (simplewallet is one). As long as you log into MyMonero with the seed prior to actually sending the account any funds, you don't need to pay the import fee.

Basically, just use 25 word seeds instead of 13 word seeds.

I would argue that if people can afford to pay the import fee they should because the fees helps support Monero development.

Don't buy Monero: https://twitter.com/MoneroPromotion/status/746006420508729344

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January 26, 2016, 02:37:19 AM
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server error on mymonero now.
Is there tutorial on how to import mymonero wallet to simple wallet?
Thinking on running fullnode now that I have stable internet connection.

There is no off-the-shelf way to do this. There is code (useful for an Oh Shit solution if MyMonero went offline permanently or for an extended period) but there are also issues with merging it directly.

In practice the easiest and best way to do this, albeit with a 10 XMR fee, is to create a wallet with simplewallet, and then import that wallet in MyMonero. You will then be able to access it both ways.


Easier still is generating with one of the offline generators (simplewallet is one). As long as you log into MyMonero with the seed prior to actually sending the account any funds, you don't need to pay the import fee.

Basically, just use 25 word seeds instead of 13 word seeds.

I would argue that if people can afford to pay the import fee they should because the fees helps support Monero development.

I think the dude wants to get his funds off mymonero and into his own wallet. Easiest thing you can do is get your own node running, make a new address using simplewallet, and then when mymonero is working, go in there and transfer your funds to your new simplewallet address.

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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January 26, 2016, 10:53:50 AM
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server error on mymonero now.
Is there tutorial on how to import mymonero wallet to simple wallet?
Thinking on running fullnode now that I have stable internet connection.

There is no off-the-shelf way to do this. There is code (useful for an Oh Shit solution if MyMonero went offline permanently or for an extended period) but there are also issues with merging it directly.

In practice the easiest and best way to do this, albeit with a 10 XMR fee, is to create a wallet with simplewallet, and then import that wallet in MyMonero. You will then be able to access it both ways.


Easier still is generating with one of the offline generators (simplewallet is one). As long as you log into MyMonero with the seed prior to actually sending the account any funds, you don't need to pay the import fee.

Basically, just use 25 word seeds instead of 13 word seeds.

I would argue that if people can afford to pay the import fee they should because the fees helps support Monero development.

Actually, fluffypony says that MyMonero (which is not associated with the dev team) only charges the import fee to cover the cost associated with processing the entire chain looking for transactions for that address. Therefore, if you are just creating the address, there is no point in paying that fee (unless you want to help the guys who host the servers Tongue )
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January 26, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
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OK, a little bit improved for those confused with cash and digital. Dollar bills are symbols of fiat currency.
I was trying to keep it simple as much as possible, not overcomplicate.





   
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January 26, 2016, 06:42:05 PM
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Realtime coin market data site CoinCap.io has released an app for iOS devices! Download the app for your iPhone and get realtime market data for your Monero, set up alerts for XMR prices increases and decreases as well as create up to three altfolios so you can keep up with your XMR and other altcoin holdings.

That's nice.... but ppl who are interested in crypto currency are often geeks and won't use iPhones...
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January 26, 2016, 06:43:50 PM
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Realtime coin market data site CoinCap.io has released an app for iOS devices! Download the app for your iPhone and get realtime market data for your Monero, set up alerts for XMR prices increases and decreases as well as create up to three altfolios so you can keep up with your XMR and other altcoin holdings.

That's nice.... but ppl who are interested in crypto mining are often geeks and won't use iPhones...

Some (pseudo)geeks do use iPhones!  Roll Eyes  Grin
App looks to get stuck retrieving latest market data, then crashes/closes. Uh Oh... Fine now. Cool!

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January 26, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
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Major announcement from NobleSir. RingCT library is ready for testing!

https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/692096697493639169

Don't buy Monero: https://twitter.com/MoneroPromotion/status/746006420508729344

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January 26, 2016, 09:52:27 PM
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Major announcement from NobleSir. RingCT library is ready for testing!

https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/692096697493639169

Direct links:

Ring CT Crypto library ready for testing!

https://github.com/ShenNoether/RingCT

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/42tpcd/ring_ct_crypto_library_ready_for_testing/

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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January 27, 2016, 12:03:13 AM
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OK, a little bit improved for those confused with cash and digital. Dollar bills are symbols of fiat currency.
I was trying to keep it simple as much as possible, not overcomplicate.


Looks great! Well done.
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January 27, 2016, 05:26:59 AM
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INTRODUCING THE MONERODO OS

http://nodebox.link/

What is it? Monerodo is a portmanteau (because I love them and love that word) of Monero and Node (well, esperanto for node).

Now you can take any old PC and turn it into a monero node, monero pool server, and nvidia miner. Instructions on the website.



Its not a GUI... but its not CLI either!!!!

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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January 27, 2016, 05:37:53 AM
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INTRODUCING THE MONERODO OS

http://nodebox.link/

What is it? Monerodo is a portmanteau (because I love them and love that word) of Monero and Node (well, esperanto for node).

Now you can take any old PC and turn it into a monero node, monero pool server, and nvidia miner. Instructions on the website.



Its not a GUI... but its not CLI either!!!!

Nice.  What a novel idea.

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January 27, 2016, 05:55:11 AM
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INTRODUCING THE MONERODO OS

http://nodebox.link/

What is it? Monerodo is a portmanteau (because I love them and love that word) of Monero and Node (well, esperanto for node).

Now you can take any old PC and turn it into a monero node, monero pool server, and nvidia miner. Instructions on the website.



Its not a GUI... but its not CLI either!!!!

This should make it very easy for anyone to turn an old PC into a Monero node and help the network!
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January 27, 2016, 06:17:50 AM
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A great feature of MONERODO is the built-in pool node. You can run your own pool and effectively solo mine with one or more GPU rigs, or open the pool node to your friends as a private pool. No chance of pool DDoS or pool ripping you off.

Great work GingerAle!
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