[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Kikyca]

Hope t fix it soon..

[Raja_MBZ]

Monero price recovering big time once again, hoping to see the 0.015 point soon.

[Rodeoweb]

@malekbaba

You're wrong.

correct me, please. I also want my investment back.

My advice, if you want your investment back, reinvest your XMR loss into BBR. CZ is a proven CN developer, easily the best developer that has worked on any CN based coin. His absence from BBR over the last year has cause the price to hit all time lows. From his recent activity and other developer interest in the project, BBR could easily do a 20x from it's current market cap. Another sound investment is SDC, the upcoming marketplace should have a similar return on investment. XMR is on a serious downward trend and it won't stop until the coin is hovering around its pre-pump position. The thing about pumps is if you have to have all your ducks in a row to support it long term. XMR has no GUI and its developers haven't shown any competence to create one over the last years. Their solution is mymonero.com.. a web wallet ran by a troll "developer".. that has resulted in theft of XMR... Go figure.

Crypto investors lose faith in projects when developers don't show competence. For example, CZ made a functional GUI for BBR in a few weeks. He did a lot for BBR in a short period of time that XMR hasn't been able to do in years. A lack of a GUI might seem trivial but usability is a key factor in sustaining pump levels. Darkcoin was also added to a few darknet markets long ago but it has sustained its pump levels because of usability. Something XMR devs fail to acknowledge and seem incapable to fix.

Anyone who believes XMR will recover to peak pump heights, is either delusional or hasn't been trading long enough to understand the mechanics of a pump and its relation to sustainability.

I have to disagree with you. I've been trading for well over 20 years, not in crptocurruncies but in equities, currencies and commodities. There is no difference in price patterns in a free market and from a technical analysis pov xmr recent move is a breakout from it pervious price pattern which almost always follows a retracement. Xmr is performing Almost a perfect technical move and I bought in based on the technicals. Trader do not buy on fact, they buy on anticipation which by the way is the GUI and the benefit of xmr. Furthermore Hearing this term, pump n dump, is so layman and shows your ignorance in trading.

[strawbs]

@malekbaba

You're wrong.

correct me, please. I also want my investment back.

My advice, if you want your investment back, reinvest your XMR loss into BBR. CZ is a proven CN developer, easily the best developer that has worked on any CN based coin. His absence from BBR over the last year has cause the price to hit all time lows. From his recent activity and other developer interest in the project, BBR could easily do a 20x from it's current market cap. Another sound investment is SDC, the upcoming marketplace should have a similar return on investment. XMR is on a serious downward trend and it won't stop until the coin is hovering around its pre-pump position. The thing about pumps is if you have to have all your ducks in a row to support it long term. XMR has no GUI and its developers haven't shown any competence to create one over the last years. Their solution is mymonero.com.. a web wallet ran by a troll "developer".. that has resulted in theft of XMR... Go figure.

Crypto investors lose faith in projects when developers don't show competence. For example, CZ made a functional GUI for BBR in a few weeks. He did a lot for BBR in a short period of time that XMR hasn't been able to do in years. A lack of a GUI might seem trivial but usability is a key factor in sustaining pump levels. Darkcoin was also added to a few darknet markets long ago but it has sustained its pump levels because of usability. Something XMR devs fail to acknowledge and seem incapable to fix.

Anyone who believes XMR will recover to peak pump heights, is either delusional or hasn't been trading long enough to understand the mechanics of a pump and its relation to sustainability.

I have to disagree with you. I've been trading for well over 20 years, not in crptocurruncies but in equities, currencies and commodities. There is no difference in price patterns in a free market and from a technical analysis pov xmr recent move is a breakout from it pervious price pattern which almost always follows a retracement. Xmr is performing Almost a perfect technical move and I bought in based on the technicals. Trader do not buy on fact, they buy on anticipation which by the way is the GUI and the benefit of xmr. Furthermore Hearing this term, pump n dump, is so layman and shows your ignorance in trading.

I agree with you that the price will rebound, but that made me laugh. If you've been trading for over 20 years then you should realize (unless you're very new to crypto) that your TA won't work here. Move along.

[Rodeoweb]

@malekbaba

You're wrong.

correct me, please. I also want my investment back.

My advice, if you want your investment back, reinvest your XMR loss into BBR. CZ is a proven CN developer, easily the best developer that has worked on any CN based coin. His absence from BBR over the last year has cause the price to hit all time lows. From his recent activity and other developer interest in the project, BBR could easily do a 20x from it's current market cap. Another sound investment is SDC, the upcoming marketplace should have a similar return on investment. XMR is on a serious downward trend and it won't stop until the coin is hovering around its pre-pump position. The thing about pumps is if you have to  have all your ducks in a row to support it long term. XMR has no GUI and its developers haven't shown any competence to create one over the last years. Their solution is mymonero.com.. a web wallet ran by a troll "developer".. that has resulted in theft of XMR... Go figure.

Crypto investors lose faith in projects when developers don't show competence. For example, CZ made a functional GUI for BBR in a few weeks. He did a lot for BBR in a short period of time that XMR hasn't been able to do in years. A lack of a GUI might seem trivial but usability is a key factor in sustaining pump levels. Darkcoin was also added to a few darknet markets long ago but it has sustained its pump levels because of usability. Something XMR devs fail to acknowledge and seem incapable to fix.

Anyone who believes XMR will recover to peak pump heights, is either delusional or hasn't been trading long enough to understand the mechanics of a pump and its relation to sustainability.

I have to disagree with you. I've been trading for well over 20 years, not in crptocurruncies but in equities, currencies and commodities. There is no difference in price patterns in a free market and from a technical analysis pov xmr recent move is a breakout from it pervious price pattern which almost always follows a retracement. Xmr is performing Almost a perfect technical move and I bought in based on the technicals. Trader do not buy on fact, they buy on anticipation which by the way is the GUI and the benefit of xmr. Furthermore Hearing this term, pump n dump, is so layman and shows your ignorance in trading.

I agree with you that the price will rebound, but that made me laugh. If you've been trading for over 20 years then you should realize (unless you're very new to crypto) that your TA won't work here. Move along.

Yea, why not? Are u telling me the crypto market is rigged? I hear that all the time from goldbugs trading in gold and guess what, they were wrong. If so why should anyone buy any of them and that includes Bitcoin. That means it's all fake and they all don't have a chance in hell to go anywhere. That's fine, if l lose I will cut my loses as real traders do and move on and not live in this fake world of crypto's.

[explorer]

@malekbaba

You're wrong.

correct me, please. I also want my investment back.

My advice, if you want your investment back, reinvest your XMR loss into BBR. CZ is a proven CN developer, easily the best developer that has worked on any CN based coin. His absence from BBR over the last year has cause the price to hit all time lows. From his recent activity and other developer interest in the project, BBR could easily do a 20x from it's current market cap. Another sound investment is SDC, the upcoming marketplace should have a similar return on investment. XMR is on a serious downward trend and it won't stop until the coin is hovering around its pre-pump position. The thing about pumps is if you have to  have all your ducks in a row to support it long term. XMR has no GUI and its developers haven't shown any competence to create one over the last years. Their solution is mymonero.com.. a web wallet ran by a troll "developer".. that has resulted in theft of XMR... Go figure.

Crypto investors lose faith in projects when developers don't show competence. For example, CZ made a functional GUI for BBR in a few weeks. He did a lot for BBR in a short period of time that XMR hasn't been able to do in years. A lack of a GUI might seem trivial but usability is a key factor in sustaining pump levels. Darkcoin was also added to a few darknet markets long ago but it has sustained its pump levels because of usability. Something XMR devs fail to acknowledge and seem incapable to fix.

Anyone who believes XMR will recover to peak pump heights, is either delusional or hasn't been trading long enough to understand the mechanics of a pump and its relation to sustainability.

I have to disagree with you. I've been trading for well over 20 years, not in crptocurruncies but in equities, currencies and commodities. There is no difference in price patterns in a free market and from a technical analysis pov xmr recent move is a breakout from it pervious price pattern which almost always follows a retracement. Xmr is performing Almost a perfect technical move and I bought in based on the technicals. Trader do not buy on fact, they buy on anticipation which by the way is the GUI and the benefit of xmr. Furthermore Hearing this term, pump n dump, is so layman and shows your ignorance in trading.

I agree with you that the price will rebound, but that made me laugh. If you've been trading for over 20 years then you should realize (unless you're very new to crypto) that your TA won't work here. Move along.

Yea, why not? Are u telling me the crypto market is rigged. I hear that all the time from goldbugs trading in gold and guess what, they were wrong. If so why should anyone buy any of them and that includes Bitcoin. That means it's all fake and they all don't have a chance in hell to go anywhere. That's fine, if l lose I will cut my loses as real traders do and move on and not live in this fake world of crypto's.

   I think it's been satisfactorily proven that ALL markets are heavily manipulated.  Doesn't mean they can reverse a trend, but it's ALL manipulated.  Gold will rise when the masses get scared enough.  The masses haven't much vision, so it is not yet.  In the mean time, the big players fleece those that see farther, but not far enough.  Age old tradition.

[Rodeoweb]

@malekbaba

You're wrong.

correct me, please. I also want my investment back.

My advice, if you want your investment back, reinvest your XMR loss into BBR. CZ is a proven CN developer, easily the best developer that has worked on any CN based coin. His absence from BBR over the last year has cause the price to hit all time lows. From his recent activity and other developer interest in the project, BBR could easily do a 20x from it's current market cap. Another sound investment is SDC, the upcoming marketplace should have a similar return on investment. XMR is on a serious downward trend and it won't stop until the coin is hovering around its pre-pump position. The thing about pumps is if you have to  have all your ducks in a row to support it long term. XMR has no GUI and its developers haven't shown any competence to create one over the last years. Their solution is mymonero.com.. a web wallet ran by a troll "developer".. that has resulted in theft of XMR... Go figure.

Crypto investors lose faith in projects when developers don't show competence. For example, CZ made a functional GUI for BBR in a few weeks. He did a lot for BBR in a short period of time that XMR hasn't been able to do in years. A lack of a GUI might seem trivial but usability is a key factor in sustaining pump levels. Darkcoin was also added to a few darknet markets long ago but it has sustained its pump levels because of usability. Something XMR devs fail to acknowledge and seem incapable to fix.

Anyone who believes XMR will recover to peak pump heights, is either delusional or hasn't been trading long enough to understand the mechanics of a pump and its relation to sustainability.

I have to disagree with you. I've been trading for well over 20 years, not in crptocurruncies but in equities, currencies and commodities. There is no difference in price patterns in a free market and from a technical analysis pov xmr recent move is a breakout from it pervious price pattern which almost always follows a retracement. Xmr is performing Almost a perfect technical move and I bought in based on the technicals. Trader do not buy on fact, they buy on anticipation which by the way is the GUI and the benefit of xmr. Furthermore Hearing this term, pump n dump, is so layman and shows your ignorance in trading.

I agree with you that the price will rebound, but that made me laugh. If you've been trading for over 20 years then you should realize (unless you're very new to crypto) that your TA won't work here. Move along.

Yea, why not? Are u telling me the crypto market is rigged. I hear that all the time from goldbugs trading in gold and guess what, they were wrong. If so why should anyone buy any of them and that includes Bitcoin. That means it's all fake and they all don't have a chance in hell to go anywhere. That's fine, if l lose I will cut my loses as real traders do and move on and not live in this fake world of crypto's.

   I think it's been satisfactorily proven that ALL markets are heavily manipulated.  Doesn't mean they can reverse a trend, but it's ALL manipulated.  Gold will rise when the masses get scared enough.  The masses haven't much vision, so it is not yet.  In the mean time, the big players fleece those that see farther, but not far enough.  Age old tradition.

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

[owlcatz]

Is it just me, or is auto-banning of old nodes with old versions now broken on the latest release? All I see in my daemon window is this bs:

SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Oct-02 17:39:01.495239 [P2P3][37.152.89.44:51160 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 1149012 -> 221993 [927019 blocks (740 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Oct-02 17:39:13.879214 [P2P0][93.189.221.163:63588 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 1149012 -> 1009962 [139050 blocks (193 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Oct-02 17:41:22.376314 [P2P3][124.239.251.49:27778 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 1149012 -> 1009962 [139050 blocks (193 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Oct-02 17:48:42.330865 [P2P4][75.23.234.18:31487 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 1149018 -> 1009962 [139056 blocks (193 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Oct-02 17:54:40.377992 [P2P8][95.211.172.97:51951 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 1149020 -> 801 [1148219 blocks (893 days) ahead]

and so on and on and on.... do we need to compile a pastebin of all the bad nodes to run a ban script?

Thanks

Edit anyone got any bash/sed code one/two liner to remove dupes and spit out a list of bannables? Not wanting to reinvent wheel.

[explorer]

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

Never is such a very long time...

[Rodeoweb]

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

Never is such a very long time...

Yea, wrong choice of words. But govt have all the tanks n guns. I believe we will have a major monetary reform in a few years n assets, gold n crypto's will help to protect wealth transfer to the new system.

[explorer]

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

Never is such a very long time...

Yea, wrong choice of words. But govt have all the tanks n guns. I believe we will have a major monetary reform in a few years n assets, gold n crypto's will help to protect wealth transfer to the new system.

True, but they need (less and less, granted) the people to wield those threats.  Eventually critical mass is realized and they all say no.  Whoops! slipped into fantasy land there for a sec!  This world is so messed up.  Monetary reform
change is under way already.  The big question is will the New Boss be the Same as the Old Boss...  Place your bets.

[Rodeoweb]

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

Never is such a very long time...

Yea, wrong choice of words. But govt have all the tanks n guns. I believe we will have a major monetary reform in a few years n assets, gold n crypto's will help to protect wealth transfer to the new system.

True, but they need (less and less, granted) the people to wield those threats.  Eventually critical mass is realized and they all say no.  Whoops! slipped into fantasy land there for a sec!  This world is so messed up.  Monetary reform
change is under way already.  The big question is will the New Boss be the Same as the Old Boss...  Place your bets.

One example that govt will try not to let any alternative currency take hold. New York new regulation on Bitcoin creates controls. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/final-new-york-bitcoin-regulation-released-bitlicense/

[nioc]

One example that govt will try not to let any alternative currency take hold. New York new regulation on Bitcoin creates controls. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/final-new-york-bitcoin-regulation-released-bitlicense/

I did not notice a date on that article.  I don't know what you consider new.  You may already know this but that article is from a year ago.  Shortly after Polo stopped all trading from NY.  They are based in the US and I guess they didn't want to jump through the hoops.  Polo just last month stopped trading "temporarily" from New Hampshire.

Old Boss vs New Boss?  Who?

[Anon136]

One example that govt will try not to let any alternative currency take hold. New York new regulation on Bitcoin creates controls. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/final-new-york-bitcoin-regulation-released-bitlicense/

Not only will we decentralize the currency we will decentralize the markets. Oh but we wont stop there. We will decentralize the communications infrastructure. We will even decentralize the shipping infrastructure. And we will marketize everything so that, like drugs, the worst they will ever do is force the price but but never choke off the supply.

We are the tide.

[owlcatz]

One example that govt will try not to let any alternative currency take hold. New York new regulation on Bitcoin creates controls. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/final-new-york-bitcoin-regulation-released-bitlicense/

I did not notice a date on that article.  I don't know what you consider new.  You may already know this but that article is from a year ago.  Shortly after Polo stopped all trading from NY.  They are based in the US and I guess they didn't want to jump through the hoops.  Polo just last month stopped trading "temporarily" from New Hampshire.

Old Boss vs New Boss?  Who?

Here is the real deal. Basically, if you trade any virtual currency in the USA state of NH, you will be a criminal. Way to go usa.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-poloniex-to-suspend-new-hampshire-accounts-due-to-regulations/

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xxxvi/399-g/399-g-mrg.htm

Live free or die... my ass?

[explorer]

One example that govt will try not to let any alternative currency take hold. New York new regulation on Bitcoin creates controls. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/final-new-york-bitcoin-regulation-released-bitlicense/

I did not notice a date on that article.  I don't know what you consider new.  You may already know this but that article is from a year ago.  Shortly after Polo stopped all trading from NY.  They are based in the US and I guess they didn't want to jump through the hoops.  Polo just last month stopped trading "temporarily" from New Hampshire.

Old Boss vs New Boss?  Who?

New York and New Hampshire get New regulations.  From the Old Boss.  The New Boss has yet to manifest.  The Who indeed...

add:

Just skimmed over the NH doc. 

Any person who violates any provision of this chapter shall be guilty of a misdemeanor for each violation if a natural person, or guilty of a felony for each violation if any other person.

So only a felony if you violate an unnatural person.  Not sure what they get up to in New Hampshire, but I imagine that sort of thing goes on behind closed doors anyway.

[Caladonian]

Yes but they only could manipulate in the direction of the trend. As far as gold, just as crytpo's, they are hedges against Govt, when confidence is lost people flock to gold. I would imagine crytpo's act the same way but it seems crypto's are trying to replace National currencies, which will never happen.

Never is such a very long time...

Yea, wrong choice of words. But govt have all the tanks n guns. I believe we will have a major monetary reform in a few years n assets, gold n crypto's will help to protect wealth transfer to the new system.

let see if what future will bring us but as far as i can see possibility of this adoption will happen so fast hopefully.

[bitebits]

Is it just me, or is auto-banning of old nodes with old versions now broken on the latest release?

It is a known issue and being fixed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg16434779#msg16434779

[malekbaba]

I just want to thank the newbie person who told me to invest in BBR. I did not invest though but it seems he was very honest. Again, it is not obvious that BBR will help to regain the xmr loss but at least for once his prediction was right. 

[dEBRUYNE]

MAAM #34 Monero Ask Anything Monday

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/55ne9v/maam_34_monero_ask_anything_monday/