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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670928 times)
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June 09, 2014, 12:28:38 AM
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Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this.  Angry

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June 09, 2014, 12:40:28 AM
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Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this.  Angry

Pools are working on fixing that. It's because of all the dust payments you get in a block making the "size" of the transaction too big. Ex: you will have a bigger transaction if you were to send out 3 monero that you received as 30 payments of .1 MRO rather than sending out 3 MRO that you received as 3 MRO from the pool. It is mostly linear, so if your transaction says 88kB in size is too big for a 23kB in size maximum then usually (if you're pool mining) you can just try to divide by 88/23 = 3.82. I realize this specific example doesn't work for you, but it's just an estimate.

So try to send in less than .5 MRO. I would imagine some kind of input tracker (if possible) would be great so that you could make better judgements in the future.

Fortunately this only has to be done once, once you've minimized the inputs .. the transaction size is always going to be smaller.

Also, are you using the latest daemon?
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June 09, 2014, 01:08:21 AM
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So like where is the monero client that is like bitcoin client?

btw there is not bitmonero folder in my %appdata%...

Why are there 4 applications to this thing?

You want illiterate ppl to jump on board where is a guide?

Edit: Already frustrated.
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June 09, 2014, 01:22:32 AM
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So like where is the monero client that is like bitcoin client?

btw there is not bitmonero folder in my %appdata%...

Why are there 4 applications to this thing?

You want illiterate ppl to jump on board where is a guide?

Edit: Already frustrated.

Sorry if you're frustrated. I know all of your questions are being worked on, based on the devs past responses.

bitmonerod is a client that synchronizes your blockchain and broadcasts transactions/mined blocks.

simplewallet manages your funds.

both are being integrated into a qt wallet very much like bitcoin.

you should have a bitmonero folder in your appdata after you type save into the bitmonerod daemon.

I'll look for a few of the guides that have been worked up, I know someone made a video too.
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June 09, 2014, 01:57:57 AM
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Can someone please link me to the top addresses for monero?

If there exist such a public list.

As previously indicated the main point of this coin is to not support that (i.e. "private" into the thread subject).

You can in fact create such a list but it doesn't mean anything because on-blockchain addresses are one-time-use so all you are listing are unspent outputs, not public addresses.

Yes if people shared their view keys that would yield more information but I can't see any reason whatsoever why significant number of people would ever do that.
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June 09, 2014, 02:03:50 AM
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bitmonerod is a client that synchronizes your blockchain and broadcasts transactions/mined blocks.

simplewallet manages your funds.

both are being integrated into a qt wallet very much like bitcoin.


oh noooo...
where do you have that from? i really love the current design of a deamon and a seperate wallet: just talking through well defined rpc commands

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June 09, 2014, 02:05:37 AM
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Can someone please link me to the top addresses for monero?

If there exist such a public list.

As previously indicated the main point of this coin is to not support that (i.e. "private" into the thread subject).

You can in fact create such a list but it doesn't mean anything because on-blockchain addresses are one-time-use so all you are listing are unspent outputs, not public addresses.

Yes if people shared their view keys that would yield more information but I can't see any reason whatsoever why significant number of people would ever do that.

Okay that makes sense.

If the one-time addresses were listed in descending order wouldn't that give a list that is worth looking at?

The issue isn't who owns what address or what address is associated with the one-time addresses, the question is based around verifying the current total of monero in circulation.


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June 09, 2014, 02:08:41 AM
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oh noooo...
where do you have that from? i really love the current design of a deamon and a seperate wallet: just talking through well defined rpc commands

Um, I think I saw it in IRC ... maybe this thread though? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0

It also might be in this thread we're in now.

I like how this works too, but you have to admit .. it's pretty limited. I can't see addresses I've sent money to easily, I can't see received amounts easily .. etc.

For this to be a fit financial tool, it will need things like easy to view transaction logs. The logs are already stored in txt files, but they're hardly usable.

What would be beautiful is a lightweight wallet .. where you don't need the entire blockchain. I think aminorex mentioned something about mycelium integration as well.

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June 09, 2014, 02:12:55 AM
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Can someone please link me to the top addresses for monero?

If there exist such a public list.

As previously indicated the main point of this coin is to not support that (i.e. "private" into the thread subject).

You can in fact create such a list but it doesn't mean anything because on-blockchain addresses are one-time-use so all you are listing are unspent outputs, not public addresses.

Yes if people shared their view keys that would yield more information but I can't see any reason whatsoever why significant number of people would ever do that.

Okay that makes sense.

If the one-time addresses were listed in descending order wouldn't that give a list that is worth looking at?

The issue isn't who owns what address or what address is associated with the one-time addresses, the question is based around verifying the current total of monero in circulation.



Hey smoothie. You should be able to count all the coins in circulation by adding up all the coins in the one time addresses.
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June 09, 2014, 03:32:23 AM
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Can someone please link me to the top addresses for monero?

If there exist such a public list.

As previously indicated the main point of this coin is to not support that (i.e. "private" into the thread subject).

You can in fact create such a list but it doesn't mean anything because on-blockchain addresses are one-time-use so all you are listing are unspent outputs, not public addresses.

Yes if people shared their view keys that would yield more information but I can't see any reason whatsoever why significant number of people would ever do that.

Okay that makes sense.

If the one-time addresses were listed in descending order wouldn't that give a list that is worth looking at?

The issue isn't who owns what address or what address is associated with the one-time addresses, the question is based around verifying the current total of monero in circulation.



Hey smoothie. You should be able to count all the coins in circulation by adding up all the coins in the one time addresses.

I kind of figured that. Has anyone created a list of the one-time addresses with the largest balances? Or is that information useless?

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However, I2P presents a challenge, as the current router software is written in Java, and the Monero project would not like to add Java as a dependency, neither would it make sense to add is as an attack surface.

So literally the only reason Anoncoin's usage of I2P doesn't have people going wild is that the software is written in Java?

Is there more to this? Does someone just not like/code in Java, but the implementation was good? What's the problem?

I see it called an attack surface. What problems does Java I2P router present that a c++ one would not?

Can someone please sell this to me? Did Anoncoin just not market an incredible achievement properly, or was there some serious flaw that nobody talks about?
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June 09, 2014, 04:34:01 AM
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http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=java

Does this explain why people dont like Java? (Besides other valid reasons.)
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June 09, 2014, 04:36:59 AM
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Hi I'm new in this Coin

How to generate a Payment ID

You only need this when you are sending to an exchange from simplewallet

How to send money to a other User

Is there a tutorial



If you want to try this with a very small amount I'd be happy to help you.

I can send you a small amount and you can try and send it back.

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June 09, 2014, 04:40:33 AM
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Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this.  Angry

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.
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June 09, 2014, 04:43:39 AM
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How does payment ID work? Can it be used to send a short message like "delivery instructions", or "colour", when ordering products (when such a market exists)?
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http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=java

Does this explain why people dont like Java? (Besides other valid reasons.)

I don't know about Anoncoin but Java is a serious vector for online malware and is one of the most vulnerable software out there, a c++ router would be much more safer.

Thanks, these both help a lot! The point I'm trying to make is that to anyone who has never been to this thread or heard of Monero before, this can and will look like a lot of useless coding when there's already a working implementation. (example - I continue to use windows although its a massive attack vector .. but it gives me AutoCAD so I use it instead of ubuntu on my main computer)

As Anoncoin was first in the implementation, it will be an absolute necessity that I2P with Monero is marketed otherwise it's just going to cause a lot of confusion. I promise that will be the result if this isn't made clear. I figured two weeks would be a good time frame before I started pushing for a discussion.

What other valid reasons can you think of dewdeded? Also, lol at the link that's a lot of problems!

Please keep in mind I'm not looking to bash Anoncoin, but instead I'm trying to find a marketable definition of why that wasn't good enough.

How much safer would you think it would be Nekomata? What kind of safety issues outside of malware vectors are there, if any?
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June 09, 2014, 05:02:40 AM
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How does payment ID work? Can it be used to send a short message like "delivery instructions", or "colour", when ordering products (when such a market exists)?

It works however you want it to.

You could use it to do all of those if you wish that to be your standard. I think you're limited to hex characters though IIRC.
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I (hopefully) stop writing down a (rough) new vertion of getting-started. For technical and testing reasons, it is not online yet. Could you please use it and refer people to it when they ask how to install? The more feedback the better.

Thank you.

http://david.latapie.name/install_monero_ubuntu.html

Edit: now online.

http://monero.cc/getting-started/

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