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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4667061 times)
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June 19, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
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FYI, this issue with Poloniex is still not resolved:

Yesterday I've withdrawn some XMR from Poloniex. The transaction was listed as "COMPLETE" quickly. However today, when checking my wallet (and after refresh), the funds are not there. And indeed the tx id that poloniex shows for this tx is unknown on http://monerochain.info.

I just opened a ticket, but I wonder if somebody else encountered this?

Currently, this failed withdrawal is still shown as "COMPLETE" in my account, with tx id 777d943c86acf4ee22f65505f71732f00152d0af3b1b5ff7194292d46de212d3, which does not exist in the blockchain.

The answer 2 days ago to my ticket was:
"Hi binaryfate,
Okay, I will escalate your ticket to Tristan to resolve.  Thank You and Warm Regards, Angela
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I commented 1 day ago:
"Any update?
I'm in touch with other people that were in the same situation, they received their withdrawals by now. What about mine?
I also have more to withdraw now. Please tell me asap if I can do it or if you are still resyncing.
Thanks for the work on XMR by the way.
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I bought more later, and now I am scared to withdraw it that the same thing would happen.
I am starting to worry a bit, between that amount that simply disappeared and the second amount I have now but cannot withdraw, this is very significant to me.

Thought it was worthy for everyone to know, will update you.
 

Poloniex finally fixed this. They said after a reindex of the poloniex wallet they found that indeed my coins have never left them. They have sent me everything by now. Smiley

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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June 19, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
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grats Mr. Fate

you rich now
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June 19, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
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I've been playing with simplewallet.exe. Sometimes when I try to transfer monero from one wallet to another the client complains that the transaction is too large. When I try again it works. Is the transaction building logic not deterministic? I guess this comes down to the RNG? Why not try a few more in the event of the transaction being too large?

It's not deterministic, it's random and depending on the mixin count it will use other *random* inputs, so it's never going to be the same. What you're experiencing is definitely an interesting edge-case given your mix of inputs, most of the time no amount of fiddling with different inputs will get a transaction to fit:)

If you haven't already, read this week's Monero Missive, as we show off transaction auto-splitting (which is also available for testing if you're able to compile Monero).

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June 19, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
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FYI, this issue with Poloniex is still not resolved:

Yesterday I've withdrawn some XMR from Poloniex. The transaction was listed as "COMPLETE" quickly. However today, when checking my wallet (and after refresh), the funds are not there. And indeed the tx id that poloniex shows for this tx is unknown on http://monerochain.info.

I just opened a ticket, but I wonder if somebody else encountered this?

Currently, this failed withdrawal is still shown as "COMPLETE" in my account, with tx id 777d943c86acf4ee22f65505f71732f00152d0af3b1b5ff7194292d46de212d3, which does not exist in the blockchain.

The answer 2 days ago to my ticket was:
"Hi binaryfate,
Okay, I will escalate your ticket to Tristan to resolve.  Thank You and Warm Regards, Angela
"

I commented 1 day ago:
"Any update?
I'm in touch with other people that were in the same situation, they received their withdrawals by now. What about mine?
I also have more to withdraw now. Please tell me asap if I can do it or if you are still resyncing.
Thanks for the work on XMR by the way.
"

I bought more later, and now I am scared to withdraw it that the same thing would happen.
I am starting to worry a bit, between that amount that simply disappeared and the second amount I have now but cannot withdraw, this is very significant to me.

Thought it was worthy for everyone to know, will update you.
 

Poloniex finally fixed this. They said after a reindex of the poloniex wallet they found that indeed my coins have never left them. They have sent me everything by now. Smiley

This is actually not their fault. The wallet is not mempool aware at the moment, so if a tx falls out the mempool (no miners mine it because maybe it's malformed or has the wrong fee or whatever) then the wallet doesn't know that those outputs are now unspent. It's on our list of things to fix ASAP!

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June 19, 2014, 01:38:45 PM
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I am comparing coins, not advertising. I provide links, facts, ideas, opinions. This forum should be about this, not about one bullshit sentence like yours saying nothing useful.

All the people here are already awared of BBR, many of us (including me) also hold some BBR from very early, so your advertisement is pointless.

The problem with BBR right now is it's being exploited by private GPU miners. Christian might be the not only one who have this optimized miner because he said the coding is not hard. And these guys don't just run it in one server, they're running optimized miners on hundreds of Amazon instances and hence dominate network hash rate. I've been want to buy some more BBR but not this time, not until a GPU miner is released to the public.

I agree, bool berry is being demolished by those with gpu's with their private closed sourced miner and it's largely unfair.



How difficult is it to code these miners? Do you need a few people who are VERY good programmers or would an amaetur programmer be able to do this ?
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June 19, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
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I've been playing with simplewallet.exe. Sometimes when I try to transfer monero from one wallet to another the client complains that the transaction is too large. When I try again it works. Is the transaction building logic not deterministic? I guess this comes down to the RNG? Why not try a few more in the event of the transaction being too large?

It's not deterministic, it's random and depending on the mixin count it will use other *random* inputs, so it's never going to be the same. What you're experiencing is definitely an interesting edge-case given your mix of inputs, most of the time no amount of fiddling with different inputs will get a transaction to fit:)

If you haven't already, read this week's Monero Missive, as we show off transaction auto-splitting (which is also available for testing if you're able to compile Monero).

Sending xmr for that peer review:

Quote from: Peer Review
Such speed, much wow

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Edit: Sent - Money successfully sent, transaction <db663dfc4e1e9e4ec4f78822ea7e13bee267bbdc118fd87b7c69b6acdd1cfd73>
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June 19, 2014, 01:42:27 PM
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This is actually not their fault. The wallet is not mempool aware at the moment, so if a tx falls out the mempool (no miners mine it because maybe it's malformed or has the wrong fee or whatever) then the wallet doesn't know that those outputs are now unspent. It's on our list of things to fix ASAP!

Good to hear you're on it, because it can be very confusing to anyone who doesn't know how things work, and annoying in any case!

Today I got a lot of "COMPLETE: ERROR" from poloniex, even when sending in smaller chunks. I guess their wallet is too dusty because of small deposits.

Fixing these two things is very important, as having something rock solid *at least for an exchange operator* is pretty much mandatory.

For the second problem, is it the "auto split" of too big transactions that is going to help?

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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June 19, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
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Also, any ideas why everytime I open my bitmonerod.exe, even though I synced last night, it resyncs blocks from like 2 or 3 days ago everytime? I thought it would have updated the blockchain already which will be saved to my computer ?
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June 19, 2014, 01:45:10 PM
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You really need to type 'save' or 'exit', instead of just closing bitmonerod. If you just close the window or control-C the heck of it, it will not save the blockchain state to disk -> so next time, syncs up all over again.
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June 19, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
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Also, any ideas why everytime I open my bitmonerod.exe, even though I synced last night, it resyncs blocks from like 2 or 3 days ago everytime? I thought it would have updated the blockchain already which will be saved to my computer ?

Close bitmonerod by typing "save"
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June 19, 2014, 01:54:15 PM
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I have been checking the coins in circulation charts here : http://monerochain.info/charts/coins

It seems the past few days from 23K+- production a day, yesterday was slightly under 11K.

The total BTC equivalent of 11000XMR is 57.5BTC at 525K sat (current price when posting) which will not ofcourse all be sold on the market as many people will be holding for mid-long term.

If this continues we will have very interesting results in terms of how the price moves when more people mine as the Block reward is Smoothly varying [3]

I think someone else can probably do analytics graphs on this and "predict" what will happen when the GUI wallet will be released aswell as more people hear about XMR.


Yesterday can be confusing when looking from different time zones. ~23k/day is the standard that should be created every single 24 hour period right now. If the graph at monerchain.info/minergate shows less than 23k/day it's because the day isn't over and it's still summing coins for that 24 hour period. Maximum deviation from that 23k is 9%, which is 20930 coins.

What kind of graphs could you see being made modeling adoption? Most anything to compare it to already has a GUI wallet due to being based on a BTC protocol. I think nxt launched without one (someone correct me if wrong), so maybe modeling the number of wallets created after that day compared to before that day could be used to show an adoption model?

My error is due to the timezone , thanks for the input.

Im no genious in math and economies but here is my view :

Having a maximum deviation of 9% (20930 - 25XXX~) would have an effect in the short term.

The tech savvy enough would hoard most of the coins (this might sound funny to a few as the wallet+mining is relatively easy), I even feel kind of guilty as its one of the most profitable coins to mine and I haven't been in XMR for more than a week.

I know there are many issues with the code that need to be fixed and its not something you can put an ETA on.

I feel we need to reach more people (smart people at least) even with the simplewallet.

I am currently preparing a clone parallax website of monero.cc that can probably help newcomers slightly better and instead of them coming in here go there and get setup faster and easier without all the clutter in this thread.

Maybe someone might consider it to be the official website  Roll Eyes
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June 19, 2014, 02:00:01 PM
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 2014.06.19 Significant Pool Updates were made at Monero pool: http://pool.cryptoescrow.eu :
  • We are now DDOS protected.
  • Running smoothly and fully set up.
  • 0% Orphans after changing servers.
  • Added port 80 and 8080 for mining through HTTP ports.
  • Updated to the newest daemon.

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June 19, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
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Also, any ideas why everytime I open my bitmonerod.exe, even though I synced last night, it resyncs blocks from like 2 or 3 days ago everytime? I thought it would have updated the blockchain already which will be saved to my computer ?

Close bitmonerod by typing "save"

lol... thanks... makes me so noob Tongue
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June 19, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
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4 coins I am watching like a hawk at.

1. Monero
2. Cloakcoin
3. Boostcoin
4. Talkcoin

I held 13k boostcoin but sold pretty much all of it due to the lack of progress by Dev
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June 19, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
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Anybody know what happened to my deposit to poloniex. This is in my log and the money is gone but doesnt show up in the blockchain explorer:
transfer 0 47sghzufGhJJDQEbScMCwVBimTuq6L5JiRixD8VeGbpjCTA12noXmi4ZyBZLc99e66NtnKff34fHsGR oyZk3ES1s1V4QVcB 33 5e4f6b638dfd3b195e1bf88f2892db3f24d69ad05f52a2e17f24c5d45c02bfb9

2014-Jun-19 15:40:11.391690 Transaction successfully sent. <<f00af5cbcc06f138117e8f678f4e5cbbf957dcd9f0321905f3a78c51f1183896>>
Commission: 0.000001021866 (dust: 0.000000021866)
Balance: xx
Unlocked: xx
Please, wait for confirmation for your balance to be unlocked.
2014-Jun-19 15:40:11.391690 Money successfully sent, transaction <f00af5cbcc06f138117e8f678f4e5cbbf957dcd9f0321905f3a78c51f1183896>

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June 19, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
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 Grin We will be listed at MP next Mondat Cheesy
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June 19, 2014, 02:29:18 PM
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P.S. Ask about more features and tell us about bugs!

Cool update!

Any chance you could get him to put HR in the widget?

What do you think about difficulty derived from the monerochain data also?

Sending a couple xmr for the update Smiley

edit: sent - Money successfully sent, transaction <2d8a6997dfd831cc18b9752191072867bdf70177d611ece7e33f96dcce602a40>
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June 19, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
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OP bittrex market link is broken. Heres the correct one: https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR
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June 19, 2014, 02:54:34 PM
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OP bittrex market link is broken. Heres the correct one: https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR

Fixed - thanks!

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June 19, 2014, 02:54:57 PM
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I've been playing with simplewallet.exe. Sometimes when I try to transfer monero from one wallet to another the client complains that the transaction is too large. When I try again it works. Is the transaction building logic not deterministic? I guess this comes down to the RNG? Why not try a few more in the event of the transaction being too large?

It's not deterministic, it's random and depending on the mixin count it will use other *random* inputs, so it's never going to be the same. What you're experiencing is definitely an interesting edge-case given your mix of inputs, most of the time no amount of fiddling with different inputs will get a transaction to fit:)

If you haven't already, read this week's Monero Missive, as we show off transaction auto-splitting (which is also available for testing if you're able to compile Monero).

Sending xmr for that peer review:

Quote from: Peer Review
Such speed, much wow

 Grin

Edit: Sent - Money successfully sent, transaction <db663dfc4e1e9e4ec4f78822ea7e13bee267bbdc118fd87b7c69b6acdd1cfd73>

lol - glad you enjoyed that:) Thanks!

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