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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4669730 times)
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July 01, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
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Hey aminorex,

I follow your posts as they are a very high quality. We were just talking about them at Malla and everyone feels this way.

IIRC you were saying that you wouldn't trust something like zerocoin as if the initial accumulator values are not destroyed it breaks the anonymity set. It turns out that with zerocash, the initial values, if not destroyed, would only allow someone to create more of the coin rather than break the anonymity of the users.

Yes, I understand that now.  Thank you for correcting the record.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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July 01, 2014, 08:26:40 PM
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I have not seen Monero developers since Sunday on this thread. May anybody know what are they doing? Still at Bitcoin conference in Estonia?
 

This is one concern I have for this platform.  The development community seems a bit on the slow side.  I don't say much as I am not a dev, but I hope code is being worked on faster than it seems.  We don't need flashy websites, or even a gui yet...  but I hope real progress is being made on core server improvements, the database etc...


DB work is currently in progress.  Personally, I would consider it the first priority, after critical bug fixes and security vulnerabilities as the are identified in real-time, so I am pleased with the prioritization which is being done by the core team.  Among other work items I have tracked, the rpc changes in support of GUI wallets appears to be to have peaked.  This will gratify those who prioritize GUI wallets.   I suppose a 64-bit GUI wallet could be put out pretty quickly now, but it seems more logical to me to get the db conversion done, so that all platforms can be equally supported, and the client conversion from boost serializations to DB is more managable, before a GUI is blessed as a reference implementation.

Just peanut gallery comments.



Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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July 01, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

no, vertcoin does not use a mixer. it uses what's called a stealth address for privacy, not for anonymity. the distinction is very important to vertcoin folks.

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July 01, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
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Searching a place to mine Monero?  Grin

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July 01, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

no, vertcoin does not use a mixer. it uses what's called a stealth address for privacy, not for anonymity. the distinction is very important to vertcoin folks.


I am constantly confused between vericoin (vrc) and vertcoin (vrt).  I imagine that I am not the only one.  Nominally, it boils down to whether one dots one's I or crosses one's T.
Verisend is a mixer, I believe.



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July 01, 2014, 09:17:29 PM
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Devs are still working hard on the core code, look at the forks of the main monero-project in github and you will see plenty of commits for improvements. There is a thread in http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/ looking for people to test new developments, which is one way that most people can contribute (other than donating!).

In general one has to remember that this is not like all the Bitcoin derived altcoins, who have inherited four years of extensive development work to ensure that the basic technology they are using is well tested and optimised. I know it has been said that if the major issues like blockchain size and gui wallet aren't resolved quickly then Monero is at risk of being overtaken by a clone of itself, but that would require the clone devteam to produce their own solutions to those issues so I doubt its a major concern for now.

Would be nice to see the slick new website, but I believe that's imminent...

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July 01, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

no, vertcoin does not use a mixer. it uses what's called a stealth address for privacy, not for anonymity. the distinction is very important to vertcoin folks.


I am constantly confused between vericoin (vrc) and vertcoin (vrt).  I imagine that I am not the only one.  Nominally, it boils down to whether one dots one's I or crosses one's T.
Verisend is a mixer, I believe.




there are now close to 400 cryptos, getting confused is understandable and you are confused stilll, vertcoin is VTC Smiley
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July 01, 2014, 10:29:50 PM
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I wonder if the high luck recently reported by several pools is having a downward impact on price?

Can anyone extrapolate a cohesive "mining luck" formula that can be scraped or otherwise determined from the block explorer?

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July 01, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
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ehi guys,
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July 02, 2014, 12:21:32 AM
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New features on pool
Features uniq for the moment.


http://monero.crypto-pool.fr


See history off all Payout for you


Adaptative minimal amount for low and big hashrate
If amount > 3.2 XMR the minimum time between payment and 30 Minutes.
If amount > 1.6 XMR the minimum time between payment and 1 Hour.
If amount > 0.8 XMR the minimum time between payment and 2 Hour.
If amount > 0.4 XMR the minimum time between payment and 4 Hour.
If amount > 0.2 XMR the minimum time between payment and 8 Hour.
If amount > 0.1 XMR the minimum time between payment and 16 Hour.

Firewall PassThru
You can mine of port 80,443,8080


Ultra stability
Each thread in listen for miner can get information "getblocktemplate" on 4 bitmonerod
If one bitmonerod not update,resynch,failed or other probleme each thread switch to other bitmonerod
If switch produce, I not accept connexion of bitmonerod if heigh of blocktemplate is not same or greater
Switch preventively bitmonerod every 2 to 5 minutes.I not good lock in same bitmonerod
Each block solver is submit on all bitmonerod and is add block list if only one accept the block,increase the rate orphan but to validate blocks refused otherwise
And other secret for returns the best services

Code:
Daemon RPC:monero "height": 110364
Daemon RPC:xmr1 "height": 110364
Daemon RPC:xmr2 "height": 110364
Daemon RPC:xmr3 "height": 110364
(Thread 9) (monero) height 110364
(Thread 8) (monero) height 110364
(Thread 7) (monero) height 110364
(Thread 6) (xmr3) height 110364
(Thread 5) (xmr1) height 110364
(Thread 4) (xmr1) height 110364
(Thread 3) (monero) height 110364
(Thread 2) (monero) height 110364
(Thread 1) (xmr3) height 110364
(Thread 14) (xmr1) height 110364
(Thread 13) (xmr3) height 110364
(Thread 12) (xmr3) height 110364
(Thread 11) (xmr2) height 110364
(Thread 10) (xmr3) height 110364
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July 02, 2014, 12:36:16 AM
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if anyone has any interest im willing to sell silver bullion for xmr

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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July 02, 2014, 01:00:09 AM
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I wonder if the high luck recently reported by several pools is having a downward impact on price?

Can anyone extrapolate a cohesive "mining luck" formula that can be scraped or otherwise determined from the block explorer?

I've been trying to work out if the "luck factor" stat shows anything useful at all for the last couple of days, but not been getting much feedback so I'm not sure anyone cares  Huh

First of all, there are two different luck calculations being used, crypto-pool.fr and cryptonotepool.org.uk implemented one based on calculating (hashes to find block) / (block difficulty), the Zone117x released a pool update which included a luck calculation based on (block difficulty) / (hashes to find block). I may well be biased but I prefer the former as I believe it produces more easily comparable results, take a look at the sites to see what you think. The standard pool method produces exponential results, and I havent see any of the sites using it trying to explain what their "285% luck factor!" actually means, other than the implied bigger is better.

After pondering here's what I believe you need to consider when looking at luck scores:

  • I prefer to refer to it as "efficiency" rather than luck, when using my pool's calculation method 100% efficiency should be average for the network
  • Network difficulty lags behind the actual network hash power, so when it is increasing miners should overall be luckier than the implied average
  • The difficulty is time based, aiming to set the mining efficiency at a level which produces a block every 60secs on average. However the pool efficiency calculation isnt time based, as it assumes 100% uptime, pool downtime wont affect the efficiency displayed
  • When all other factors are equal, i.e. difficulty remains constant and pools have no downtime, then the efficiency across all pools should average 100%. If some pools are consistently over 100% then that must be at the expense of some other pools running at less than 100%.

To answer your original question, unfortunately the block explorer doesnt record hashes required per block, so you cant get a luck factor that way. You could look at the average block generation time to see if it is 60secs as intended, if it averages much lower then the coins generated per day will be higher than expected, which could affect price.

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Currently donating all of our 1% pool fee to the dev fund - mine at CryptonotepoolUK and support XMR at no extra cost!
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July 02, 2014, 01:23:08 AM
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I have one big probleme .
Many users is not happy by chance in my pool .
Is very low and quit my pool .

I know my methode is best ( same of MPOS per exemple ).

I lose users with my methode. For joke, I have used the same methode of standard pool and find 446%
http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/testttt.html#pool_blocks

Lucky: 446% is liard.
Pool Efficiency: 103% Is already very good number  ( between 90% and 100% , is good number ).

If you explain "285% luck factor!"
Please explain me 446% luck factor

Yes, if my server is down or all composant of my pool not running as not impact of efficiancy.
The principal probleme of pool monero is daemon bitmonerod crashed or not response RPC.


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July 02, 2014, 01:41:33 AM
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Is it technically possible to side-embed monero to bitcoin?
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July 02, 2014, 02:15:56 AM
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xmr.farm fast and reliable monero pool !  Smiley

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July 02, 2014, 04:00:42 AM
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who dump?
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July 02, 2014, 06:14:06 AM
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I am trying to follow the instruction to get my wallet setup in Windows but I am having no luck.  I have all the files and have downloaded the latest blockchain.bin from the OP but my wallet just keeps saying:

"Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds"

Can anyone provide any info on what I may have wrong?

TFT pulled his seed nodes, you need to add new ones:
Code:
bitmonerod --seed-node 62.210.78.186:18080 --seed-node 195.12.60.154:18080 --seed-node 54.241.246.125:18080 --seed-node 107.170.157.169:18080 --seed-node 54.207.112.216:18080 --seed-node 78.27.112.54:18080 --seed-node 209.222.30.57:18080 --seed-node 80.71.13.55:18080 --seed-node 107.178.112.126:18080

GOOD COIN ........SUCK ASS WALLET!!!!           Devs why release a wallet update when it doesn't work for half your investors or miners? This is a Great Coin with a half ass wallet both Window and Mac wallets. I should not have to go thru all this bullshit to get a wallet. Just make a online wallet to bypass the Bullshit.

Please someone "EXPLAIN" how do you add the seed nodes to this crap wallet. Do I make a .conf file, do i go through the command line? I don't have a file that says peerlist or seed node, typing help in the simplewallet is no help. Please help how do I add the seeds to this wallet so it can become sync?


 
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July 02, 2014, 06:34:14 AM
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TFT pulled his seed nodes, you need to add new ones:
Code:
bitmonerod --seed-node 62.210.78.186:18080 --seed-node 195.12.60.154:18080 --seed-node 54.241.246.125:18080 --seed-node 107.170.157.169:18080 --seed-node 54.207.112.216:18080 --seed-node 78.27.112.54:18080 --seed-node 209.222.30.57:18080 --seed-node 80.71.13.55:18080 --seed-node 107.178.112.126:18080
GOOD COIN ........SUCK ASS WALLET!!!!           Devs why release a wallet update when it doesn't work for half your investors or miners? This is a Great Coin with a half ass wallet both Window and Mac wallets. I should not have to go thru all this bullshit to get a wallet. Just make a online wallet to bypass the Bullshit.
Please someone "EXPLAIN" how do you add the seed nodes to this crap wallet. Do I make a .conf file, do i go through the command line? I don't have a file that says peerlist or seed node, typing help in the simplewallet is no help. Please help how do I add the seeds to this wallet so it can become sync?

Relax, why do you need a wallet anyway ? You can use the wallet exchange on poloniex.com if it's too complicated for you.
It is the same as having an online wallet.

There are GUI wallet being developed :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0
Check Jojatekok or neozaru work.

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July 02, 2014, 07:47:02 AM
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TFT pulled his seed nodes, you need to add new ones:
Code:
bitmonerod --seed-node 62.210.78.186:18080 --seed-node 195.12.60.154:18080 --seed-node 54.241.246.125:18080 --seed-node 107.170.157.169:18080 --seed-node 54.207.112.216:18080 --seed-node 78.27.112.54:18080 --seed-node 209.222.30.57:18080 --seed-node 80.71.13.55:18080 --seed-node 107.178.112.126:18080
GOOD COIN ........SUCK ASS WALLET!!!!           Devs why release a wallet update when it doesn't work for half your investors or miners? This is a Great Coin with a half ass wallet both Window and Mac wallets. I should not have to go thru all this bullshit to get a wallet. Just make a online wallet to bypass the Bullshit.
Please someone "EXPLAIN" how do you add the seed nodes to this crap wallet. Do I make a .conf file, do i go through the command line? I don't have a file that says peerlist or seed node, typing help in the simplewallet is no help. Please help how do I add the seeds to this wallet so it can become sync?

Relax, why do you need a wallet anyway ? You can use the wallet exchange on poloniex.com if it's too complicated for you.
It is the same as having an online wallet.

There are GUI wallet being developed :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0
Check Jojatekok or neozaru work.



thank for GUI link

Reason for the the half ass monero wallet is that you cannot mine directly to the crypto exchange. Before the crytpo exchange accepts payment it needs to generate a payment ID that you add to command along with the amount and address when attempt a withdrawal with the half ass wallet to process payments.  The payment id is generated along with address with on the crypto exchange. They are two different sets of numbers and letter. The mining pools dont use payment Ids.


Please someone "EXPLAIN" how do you add the seed nodes to this crap wallet. Do I make a .conf file, do i go through the command line? I don't have a file that says peerlist or seed node, typing help in the simplewallet is no help. Please help how do I add the seeds to this wallet so it can become sync?      If need a tip to help just say it please
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July 02, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
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Reason for the the half ass monero wallet is that you cannot mine directly to the crypto exchange. Before the crytpo exchange accepts payment it needs to generate a payment ID that you add to command along with the amount and address when attempt a withdrawal with the half ass wallet to process payments.  The payment id is generated along with address with on the crypto exchange. They are two different sets of numbers and letter. The mining pools dont use payment Ids.


Please someone "EXPLAIN" how do you add the seed nodes to this crap wallet. Do I make a .conf file, do i go through the command line? I don't have a file that says peerlist or seed node, typing help in the simplewallet is no help. Please help how do I add the seeds to this wallet so it can become sync?      If need a tip to help just say it please

First of all there is nothing wrong with the command line wallet.  I have used it to transfer thousands of coins.  If you are not patient or smart enough it is not the wallets fault.  I would not usually be so blunt but you come in with all this attitude and then ask for help like you're the fucking Queen of Denmark.

I am under no impression you need to add seed nodes to the current daemon.  It finds the network fine.

1.  Run bitmonerod.  Let it run long enough to get the blockchain (or downlod a copy like the OP mentions).
2.  Run simplewallet and create a new (or login to an old) wallet.

It's that damn simple.
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