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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670997 times)
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July 08, 2014, 03:15:05 PM
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Why is there so much wrong? I hope anyone help me, thank you very much!

Please please.
When you start bitmonerod
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Perhaps the log should read the current progress of chain download by default, and nothing else?

Aren't some of the messages important?  If so what setting would give you those?  
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July 08, 2014, 03:25:11 PM
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Do all Monero addresses start with 4?

I'm not sure, it might be a hardcoded default.

I'm not sure why florida.haunted is being a jerk either...

Better question would be "why are XMR addresses some 3-5 times longer than BTC ones". For example, I don't know why. It would be nice, if somewhat short-alias system being applied to XMR addresses... But it is still very very tiny wish to devs.


Because they are basically what u know as stealth addresses from Bitcoin. Having one long address that you reuse the whole time is definately easier to deal with than having changing addresses for every transaction.

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“The destination of each CryptoNote output (by default) is a public key, derived from recipient’s address and sender’s random data. The main advantage against Bitcoin is that every destination key is unique by default (unless the sender uses the same data for each of his transactions to the same recipient). Hence, there is no such issue as “address reuse” by design and no observer can determine if any transactions were sent to a specific address or link two addresses together.

First, the sender performs a Diffie-Hellman exchange to get a shared secret from his data and half of the recipient’s address. Then he computes a one-time destination key, using the shared secret and the second half of the address. Two different ec-keys are required from the recipient for these two steps, so a standard CryptoNote address is nearly twice as large as a Bitcoin wallet address. The receiver also performs a Diffie-Hellman exchange to recover the corresponding secret key.”


An alias system is tricky, it opens up a lot of abuse cases, for example people can just register an alias for the various exchanges and trick people into sending coins there. As noone can control the aliases it will end in chaos i supose, at least the currently available alias systems are far from perfect...

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July 08, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
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Better question would be "why are XMR addresses some 3-5 times longer than BTC ones". For example, I don't know why. It would be nice, if somewhat short-alias system being applied to XMR addresses... But it is still very very tiny wish to devs.


This isn't your "true" address that coins go into. It's used (along with some random data) to automatically generate new addresses for every transaction. It needs to be this long by design because it actually consists of two parts. This is the first layer of privacy (before ring signatures) and it makes blockchain analysis much harder.

And yes, the address prefix 4 is hardcoded in XMR's configuration files.
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July 08, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
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Why is there so much wrong? I hope anyone help me, thank you very much!

Please please.
When you start bitmonerod
Type :
set_log 0
and stop reading it.

Perhaps the log should read the current progress of chain download by default, and nothing else?

Aren't some of the messages important?  If so what setting would give you those?  

Some are, but very few. You can change your logging level if you need to see more messages.

At the moment my client runs red text all the time, yet I see no change to the usability of Monero. I can send and receive coins with no issue.

I just think the bombardment of messages confuses the user and serves no real purpose. They are warnings in a very minor way and relate more to the state of the network than how your client is handling it.

If the progress bar stops progressing then perhaps have an option to reveal more messages.
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July 08, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
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Donation: for now, the destination address is hardcoded to zone117x's address. It may change later.
We do not show closed-source because there is enough open-source pools (contrary to miners)
By this logic you shouldn't be adding any new pools to the list, and you shouldn't list any closed source miners. Seems like people really hate minergate... The list should be neutral.
I fail to sse how you statement contradicts mine.

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July 08, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
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Hey guys, I've already posted something like this here, but I'm just eager to share once again:

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July 08, 2014, 04:18:40 PM
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Some are, but very few. You can change your logging level if you need to see more messages.

At the moment my client runs red text all the time, yet I see no change to the usability of Monero. I can send and receive coins with no issue.

I just think the bombardment of messages confuses the user and serves no real purpose. They are warnings in a very minor way and relate more to the state of the network than how your client is handling it.

If the progress bar stops progressing then perhaps have an option to reveal more messages.

Well, instead of that what we're doing is taking each of the common "error" messages, investigating why they occur, and then figuring out whether we need to handle it or whether it's a pseudo-error and can be discarded without notifying at all. Some of them are, for instance, occurring because Monero doesn't obey OS resource constraints, and we need to make it more resource-aware. That having been said, that specific error doesn't cause any problems per se; Monero just asks the OS for an extra network connection or whatever, and the OS says "no", and then Monero tries again a few minutes later because it's not a very clever panda bear at the moment.

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July 08, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?
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July 08, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?

Sorry, that's not happening.
It's a similar curve to bitcoin.
Bitcoin was cheap early on. Now it's not.
Monero is for those that are more patient than the average altcoiner.

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July 08, 2014, 04:38:45 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?

That would immediately turn Monero into an instamined scamcoin, so no, not happening. Getting a large portion of coins out and into the hands of people is a good thing.

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July 08, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?

Sorry, that's not happening.
It's a similar curve to bitcoin.
Bitcoin was cheap early on. Now it's not.
Monero is for those that are more patient than the average altcoiner.

Very true, but then again, it also took nearly 2-3 years to actually gain value and traction. Wouldn't the counterargument be why build a position now when it will ultimately be eaten away by new coins on a daily basis? Why not re-evaluate in 2-3 years time when the majority of the coins have been mined?

Granted, numerous coins suffer from the effects of heavy inflation from daily coinage--take DOGE, LTC, VRT, etc. All have constant sell pressure from miners selling their stash. I realize not everyone sells, but there are plenty of examples showing how much value is loss from when these coins hit the exchanges.
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July 08, 2014, 04:41:19 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?

That would immediately turn Monero into an instamined scamcoin, so no, not happening. Getting a large portion of coins out and into the hands of people is a good thing.

Yea, the current block reward creates liquidity, the right way.

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July 08, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
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Has there been any discussion on revising the block reward to curb the immense inflation during the first 4 years?

That would immediately turn Monero into an instamined scamcoin, so no, not happening. Getting a large portion of coins out and into the hands of people is a good thing.

Yea, the current block reward creates liquidity, the right way.

To an extent. I guess so far I haven't seen much of the value loss due to the new coins... there certainly isn't a ton of liquidity on the exchanges though. Anyone wanting to buy a substantial position (say 10+ btc) will move the price quite a bit. I know me building 2000 over the past day or so was a challenge.
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July 08, 2014, 05:19:20 PM
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To an extent. I guess so far I haven't seen much of the value loss due to the new coins... there certainly isn't a ton of liquidity on the exchanges though. Anyone wanting to buy a substantial position (say 10+ btc) will move the price quite a bit. I know me building 2000 over the past day or so was a challenge.

Still, it's had > 100 BTC daily trade volume on Poloniex most days (and has gone over 1000 BTC daily trade volume just on Poloniex on more than one occasion), so its in a reasonable position (generally in the top 10 cryptocurrencies by trade volume).

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July 08, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
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July 08, 2014, 05:58:20 PM
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What do you think about the difficulty drop? Is it because people now run Claymore's miner without the dev fee at a hashrate penalty?
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July 08, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
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What do you think about the difficulty drop? Is it because people now run Claymore's miner without the dev fee at a hashrate penalty?
Certain types of mining become unprofitable at current prices.
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July 08, 2014, 06:20:10 PM
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villabacho asdddddddddd
even without the 5% to the dev
the hashrate dont change
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July 08, 2014, 06:41:40 PM
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What do you think about the difficulty drop? Is it because people now run Claymore's miner without the dev fee at a hashrate penalty?
Certain types of mining become unprofitable at current prices.

... so that's actually a good sign :-)
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July 08, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
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I tested this procedure carefully on four different Sandy-Bridge and Haswell machines (Win7 x64), but hugepages are not available... is there another way of making Windows activate hugepages - and to verify this?

user needs to have privilege to allocate pagelocked memory, application must run with administrator privileges. Worked for me in my test application.
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