[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[mere-mortal]

is there any reference anywhere on hardware hash rates, or could someone give me an estimate on a mid range i7.

[myagui]

^ An average i7 should be mining in the region of 200h/s, depending on your actual cpu clock, which precise miner, how many threads you're allowing it, etc.
I don't know if there's a hardware comparison table though. Good luck!
~ Myagui

[equipoise]

^Here is a list to get a basic idea, but some of the values could be outdated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MI-ic0Os25hgGUImW54sUIjZY_pUNQNa_W8Se5pRGBs/edit#gid=0

[puck2]

I hope Monero will be the one who survives and many others think so. I just do not yet know what is the advantage of Monero in relation to these other coins?

Bytecoin (BCN) was not fairly distributed. Monero has network effect going for it in the cryptonote space.

[Crypto_EX]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

[puck2]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

because the focus has been on back-end cryptography and anonymity, not user experience (UX)

[Crypto_EX]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

because the focus has been on back-end cryptography and anonymity, not user experience (UX)

hard to install wallet will discourage people from using it, i'm discouraged now ...

can you help me install it ?

[cAPSLOCK]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

because the focus has been on back-end cryptography and anonymity, not user experience (UX)

hard to install wallet will discourage people from using it, i'm discouraged now ...

can you help me install it ?

To be honest that is a good thing for now.  We need the devs to finish the transition to a database and make some other core decisions before working on making the coin easy to use.

Hopefully they are doing this now.

Frankly, using the command line wallet is drop dead simple.

[Crypto_EX]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

because the focus has been on back-end cryptography and anonymity, not user experience (UX)

hard to install wallet will discourage people from using it, i'm discouraged now ...

can you help me install it ?

To be honest that is a good thing for now.  We need the devs to finish the transition to a database and make some other core decisions before working on making the coin easy to use.

Hopefully they are doing this now.

Frankly, using the command line wallet is drop dead simple.

no way i  can get just a simple gui wallet like all these other coins ?!

[equipoise]

why installing the wallet of this coin is such a pain in the ass ?!!!

because the focus has been on back-end cryptography and anonymity, not user experience (UX)

hard to install wallet will discourage people from using it, i'm discouraged now ...

can you help me install it ?

Go to monero.cc -> getting started, or if you are using windows see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.10520 or the tutorials here: https://monerotalk.org/t/bounty-create-a-useful-tutorial-on-how-to-setup-monero-closed/13
If you still have any questions see if they are answered in the monero FAQ thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686086.0 or ask it in the monero support thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652305.0

[fluffypony]

no way i  can get just a simple gui wallet like all these other coins ?!

There are two "simple gui" wallets, but bear in mind that Monero is not "like all these other coins"

From the OP:

GUI
All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe to use because they work through bitmonerod and simplewallet from the main code.

• Qt GUI (Cross-platform) by Neozaru
• Windows GUI by Jojatekok

[Crypto_EX]

no way i  can get just a simple gui wallet like all these other coins ?!

There are two "simple gui" wallets, but bear in mind that Monero is not "like all these other coins"

From the OP:

GUI
All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe to use because they work through bitmonerod and simplewallet from the main code.

• Qt GUI (Cross-platform) by Neozaru
• Windows GUI by Jojatekok

qt gui needs to be compiled ?!

[Jojatekok]

no way i  can get just a simple gui wallet like all these other coins ?!

There are two "simple gui" wallets, but bear in mind that Monero is not "like all these other coins"

From the OP:

GUI
All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe to use because they work through bitmonerod and simplewallet from the main code.

• Qt GUI (Cross-platform) by Neozaru
• Windows GUI by Jojatekok

qt gui needs to be compiled ?!

Yes, but compiling it on Mac or Linux is not really a big deal (also, you can find some compiled test versions in the GUI bounty thread). For Windows, I have all the releases tagged and compiled on GitHub, including an alpha release which utilizes rpcwallet with the new daemon.

[Monkeyseemonkeydo]

What the necessity to implement i2p? I don't see the point to make this integration as well as CryptoNote dev team.
Brandon Hawking has written his thoughts about i2p on the forum - https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=205#p670

[fluffypony]

What the necessity to implement i2p? I don't see the point to make this integration as well as CryptoNote dev team.
Brandon Hawking has written his thoughts about i2p on the forum - https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=205#p670

This has been discussed at length, it's to ensure that (generally speaking) an attacker can't determine if you are using Monero or not.

We're not beholden to what the CryptoNote academics believe, so whilst any input they have to offer is always appreciated, we've already diverged far from their reference code, and will continue to do so as we fix deficiencies in their protocol (some of which were highlighted in the Monero whitepaper review).

[Its About Sharing]

Wanted to share this post here, (partial).

rpietila what I find very interesting about Monero is how much Bitcoin developers really like the CryptoNote concept. Take for example gmaxwell, PeterTodd, wumpus, nanotube etc.
Every name I mentioned have spoken well about XMR and currently three of the names are active in #Monero-dev.
wumpus is the leader of Bitcoin development team, he took over after Gavin and to my suprise I find him in the Monero dev channel.
I find this very interesting, because all of the guys here are really good cryptographers and have been the core bitcoin developers for years.

To see if the names here also particpate in other altcoin channels on freenode, I checked #darkcoin-dev, #darkcoin, #ethereum and #bytecoin and I could not find any of them has such a huge backing by good developers as Monero have.
For me as an investor, this give Monero huge credibility.

[Monkeyseemonkeydo]

What the necessity to implement i2p? I don't see the point to make this integration as well as CryptoNote dev team.
Brandon Hawking has written his thoughts about i2p on the forum - https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=205#p670

This has been discussed at length, it's to ensure that (generally speaking) an attacker can't determine if you are using Monero or not.

We're not beholden to what the CryptoNote academics believe, so whilst any input they have to offer is always appreciated, we've already diverged far from their reference code, and will continue to do so as we fix deficiencies in their protocol (some of which were highlighted in the Monero whitepaper review).

Still, I don't understand the reason to implement i2p to the coin. Wouldn't it better to listen to Cryptonote academics as they have created this technology and no one knows it as well as they.

i2p, of course, has pros but I wonder if the patterns are used above correct for their intended purposes? Does the FoxyProxy setup in any way open up for attacks?

[Crypto_EX]

how profitable is monero mining compared to x11 algo coins mining ? i think it's a lot more profitable no ?

[darkota]

What the necessity to implement i2p? I don't see the point to make this integration as well as CryptoNote dev team.
Brandon Hawking has written his thoughts about i2p on the forum - https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=205#p670

This has been discussed at length, it's to ensure that (generally speaking) an attacker can't determine if you are using Monero or not.

We're not beholden to what the CryptoNote academics believe, so whilst any input they have to offer is always appreciated, we've already diverged far from their reference code, and will continue to do so as we fix deficiencies in their protocol (some of which were highlighted in the Monero whitepaper review).

Still, I don't understand the reason to implement i2p to the coin. Wouldn't it better to listen to Cryptonote academics as they have created this technology and no one knows it as well as they.

i2p, of course, has pros but I wonder if the patterns are used above correct for their intended purposes? Does the FoxyProxy setup in any way open up for attacks?

I2P is pretty much mandatory for any anonymous coin, according to what others said(anonymint), I2P is the most important thing that ensures a coins anonymity.

[smooth]

Wouldn't it better to listen to Cryptonote academics as they have created this technology and no one knows it as well as they.

Considering we don't know who the hell they are and can't verify any of their claims or intentions, I would say no. A thousand times no.

Or at least I would say not to trust anything they say. Listen sure. We always do that.

BTW, I2P will add NAT traversal, something that doesn't exist on any other coin as far as I know beyond the limited case of UPNP. It isn't the only way to do that but it is part of that value added.