[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[giveBTCpls]

Still holding my XMR. Not affraid of the ups and downs. Let us hold for long period of times through the market storms for #1 Anon coin is its only destiny.

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[Nekomata]

XMR is the future.

[aminorex]

"Securing Freedom through Privacy" - Google Latin "Praesent libero per Securitate"
"Securing Financial Liberty through Privacy" - Google Latin "Aliquam erat volutpat Securitate libertas"

Along these lines? Securing can be changed to Secured if this doesn't flop  

Realized how bad we need a new language, words like Freedom and Liberty have been thrown around loosely.

Well, if the logopoesy of priquiditas is too whimsical (XMR R SRS CO1N), I would suggest " sine secretum non libertas "

[cAPSLOCK]

"Securing Freedom through Privacy" - Google Latin "Praesent libero per Securitate"
"Securing Financial Liberty through Privacy" - Google Latin "Aliquam erat volutpat Securitate libertas"

Along these lines? Securing can be changed to Secured if this doesn't flop  

Realized how bad we need a new language, words like Freedom and Liberty have been thrown around loosely.

Well, if the logopoesy of priquiditas is too whimsical (XMR R SRS CO1N), I would suggest " sine secretum non libertas "

Excellent, it is simple and captures the fundamental essence of the project.  I might even put my sig in latin.

[Errror]

what makes monero better than darkcoin and other anonymous coins? thank you

[Jshank]

what makes monero better than darkcoin and other anonymous coins? thank you

If you give me your DRK address i'll show you

[sammy007]

what makes monero better than darkcoin and other anonymous coins? thank you

Probably because it's anonymous by it's nature and not due to pair of crutches, invented to produce some artificial demand? And yes, how much DRK you HODL?

[equipoise]

what makes monero better than darkcoin and other anonymous coins? thank you

But the signs all point up from here.   And there's lots of them...

Do tell.

Seriously, do tell.

Current fundamental plusses:
Only coin offering true privacy with ring signatures.
One of very few coins to compliment bitcoin rather than compete.
Impossible to examine block chain for tracking funds.
Serious candidate for crypto version of "Swiss account"
Serious contender for crypto with cash equivalence for privacy.
Smooth decreasing emission rate.
Active development.
Devs focusing on foundation not bling.
Major interest from BCT  "hero"  members and BTC whales.
POW  (proven value creation)
Active mining community.
Zero premine.
Zero ninja mine.
Cpu/gpu friendly.
Robust asic resistance.
Current state inflationary but coin holds value.
Smoothly rising difficulty.
Smoothly rising hash rate.
Relatively equitable distribution.
Low hype.
High signal to noise community here.
No evidence of any pump/dump.
Exchanges coming online.

Future fundamental plusses:
Gui imminent.
Database overhaul underway.
Website overhaul underway.
Possible mobile client.
Rpc wallet incoming.

Technical plusses: (weak area)
Consistent volume leader on exchanges.
Seems to be finding support at recent lows.

A real ta guy could fill that in.   Chart looks pretty shitty to me. But the fundamentals are damn strong with this coin.

[Errror]

Ok. thank you guys, I dont HODL any DRK, actually any anonymous coins, Im thinking about investing in some Im just making research and have no much time.
Thanks for answers.

[dawie]

Ok. thank you guys, I dont HODL any DRK, actually any anonymous coins, Im thinking about investing in some Im just making research and have no much time.
Thanks for answers.

Try these links:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2c6w0x/so_what_do_you_think_make_monero_worth_investing/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7730401#msg7730401

[Nekomata]

XMR is the future.

[kbm]

cross post ..

Hi I have question, if someone would be kind enough to answer

Is it possible to have totally open transactions with XMR (as open as BTC)....or do all transactions necessarily get obscured by ring-sig?

This was answered in this FAQ here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=721045.msg8148948#msg8148948

It might have not been clear. This isn't something that's even similar to you comparing your transaction records with someone. This method involves using data that is constant in your wallet, the view-key, that you can use to reveal, with absolute proof, that your transaction occurred on the blockchain. With this, yes, totally open transactions are possible. They can be as open as BTC, if everyone were to share every single view-key that they use with every wallet they use and make them accessible to everyone. I don't know why people would do that though.

Well I was reading about black and white bitcoins today, and the possibility that regulators may try to identify addresses. Now if that were to happen, it may happen in some places but not others. It may happen for a while and then be abandoned. We don't know. But, in some places it may be useful to be a coin that is not necessarily "private", but has the option for more a more open ledger.

In such a case, I would imagine the view key being part of your bitlicense in NY, or at least able to be demanded by law (ie: regulated/submissible as proof) .. similar to a court asking your credit card company for transaction records, except in this case you (or whoever you've trusted your view key with) would have to provide that. Like you said though, we don't know. Cryptonote does offer things that can be legislated - payments are not permanently obscured. The point here is that nobody can falsify the evidence, as it's permanently recorded on the blockchain and your wallet.

I see it as, in the very least, keeping the same decency I've been shown to date in that my neighbor does not know if I've bought a flat screen TV last year (short of showing them myself of course ) .. while at the same time, if I had not paid the credit card bill that I racked up from buying the TV .. the court, myself and my cc company can hash it all out successfully .. all without my neighbor knowing (or ever being able to find out without my direct intervention). The same carries through with cryptonote.

Edit: smooth's right, I'll respond in the main thread

[aeronbuchanan]

I'm syncing the blockchain, having used install_monero.sh on Ubuntu 14.04, and my daemon threw this error. It hasn't seemed to have slowed it down, although I did restart just in case. Googling didn't bring anything up, so I thought I'd mention it.

Code:

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2014-Aug-07 16:34:33.549957 [P2P9][178.137.113.3:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 151909 -> 156065 [4156 blocks (2 days) behind] 
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.191235 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/portable_storage_from_bin.h:274 string len count value 8363 goes out of remain storage len 1848
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.197356 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/portable_storage.h:173 Exception at [portable_storage::load_from_binary], what=string len count value 8363 goes out of remain storage len 1848
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.197693 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/levin_abstract_invoke2.h:196 Failed to load_from_binary in notify 2004

[fluffypony]

I'm syncing the blockchain, having used install_monero.sh on Ubuntu 14.04, and my daemon threw this error. It hasn't seemed to have slowed it down, although I did restart just in case. Googling didn't bring anything up, so I thought I'd mention it.

Code:

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2014-Aug-07 16:34:33.549957 [P2P9][178.137.113.3:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 151909 -> 156065 [4156 blocks (2 days) behind] 
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.191235 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/portable_storage_from_bin.h:274 string len count value 8363 goes out of remain storage len 1848
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.197356 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/portable_storage.h:173 Exception at [portable_storage::load_from_binary], what=string len count value 8363 goes out of remain storage len 1848
2014-Aug-07 16:37:51.197693 [P2P8]ERROR /home/aeron/bitmonero/contrib/epee/include/storages/levin_abstract_invoke2.h:196 Failed to load_from_binary in notify 2004

You can generally ignore any error that starts with [P2Px] - if it causes the daemon to crash please open a github issue so we can investigate it more thoroughly:)

[GoodDay2Day]

Android app for cryptonote trading

Hello guys!

I made an Android app - Cryptonote Bitcoin!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cryptcoins.cryptonote

- Trade cryptonote coins on HitBTC and Poloniex and get profit;
- Check your balance on exchanges;
- Nice widgets will inform you about last trades of cryptonote coins to bitcoin;
- See your active and trade history on HitBTC and Poloniex;

Will be waiting for your feedback!

[cAPSLOCK]

Android app for cryptonote trading

Hello guys!

I made an Android app - Cryptonote Bitcoin!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cryptcoins.cryptonote

- Trade cryptonote coins on HitBTC and Poloniex and get profit;
- Check your balance on exchanges;
- Nice widgets will inform you about last trades of cryptonote coins to bitcoin;
- See your active and trade history on HitBTC and Poloniex;

Will be waiting for your feedback!

Sounds interesting, but my feedback is:  I am supposed to type my exchange password into an app on a phone for which there is no source code, and no trace of where it sends that password?

[fluffypony]

Sounds interesting, but my feedback is:  I am supposed to type my exchange password into an app on a phone for which there is no source code, and no trace of where it sends that password?

I'd have the same concerns. Unless Poloniex or whoever offer an SSO, or this app's source is made available and we can deterministically verify the build in the Play store, using this app is extremely risky.

[Jungian]

Sounds interesting, but my feedback is:  I am supposed to type my exchange password into an app on a phone for which there is no source code, and no trace of where it sends that password?

I'd have the same concerns. Unless Poloniex or whoever offer an SSO, or this app's source is made available and we can deterministically verify the build in the Play store, using this app is extremely risky.

Risky beyond the point of stupid to say the least.

New account. 1 post.

[mindless]

Does anyone know when the new website is coming out?

[fluffypony]

Does anyone know when the new website is coming out?

Do you want the Butterfly Labs estimate, or my usual "sometime before August 30th, 2015"? :-P