[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[smooth]

wow, that was a nice surprise, i thought the gui would be finished before the db

The DB is a much smaller undertaking. The main reason it is taking as long as it is we are not only adding a database but also doing a lot of documenting and refactoring as we go. This will not only improve the database solution (which will be modular allowing different databases to be used in different deployment environments) but also improve the overall development effort going forward. When we forked we got a bunch of undocumented code that frankly is not really that great in a lot of ways. We are making it better at the core.

[superplus]

stupid question, what is the purpose of the view key?

[smooth]

stupid question, what is the purpose of the view key?

Roughly speaking it serves a similar sort of purpose to looking at payments to an address on a bitcoin block explorer. Since payments are unlinkable by default you can't tell which payments are going to a specific address in Monero, unless you have the view key. So it can be used to track payments to an address that is supposed to be public, such as a donation address. I don't think there is any software to actually do this yet though.

There are also some technical applications for it, such as being used by lightweight clients (so a remote server can find your incoming transactions and forward them to you without being able to steal your coins). There are no lightweight clients yet either.

So presently it serves no practical purpose but will be used in the future.

[wpalczynski]

Whats up with monerochain.info?  I just checked it and it still doesnt appear to be synchronized.  Are there any other sites such as that one?  What is the official one?

Thanks.

[superplus]

stupid question, what is the purpose of the view key?

Roughly speaking it serves a similar sort of purpose to looking at payments to an address on a bitcoin block explorer. Since payments are unlinkable by default you can't tell which payments are going to a specific address in Monero, unless you have the view key. So it can be used to track payments to an address that is supposed to be public, such as a donation address. I don't think there is any software to actually do this yet though.

There are also some technical applications for it, such as being used by lightweight clients (so a remote server can find your incoming transactions and forward them to you without being able to steal your coins). There are no lightweight clients yet either.

So presently it serves no practical purpose but will be used in the future.

ok nice, got confused because chain.info didn't show anything..

[superplus]

is it considered to forbid 0 mixins in future?
this could prevent likability in some cases, doesn't it?

[smooth]

is it considered to forbid 0 mixins in future?
this could prevent likability in some cases, doesn't it?

i read some pages back that it will be forbidden at protocol level, its a must change imho.

We are still studying various privacy issues including this one, so we don't have anything to announce just yet. Stay tuned.

[David Latapie]

I prefer address and addressbook over account number and favourites.

Reasonning:

• Account reminds of banking but this may be either bad (for bank haters) or good (because bank conjures something familiar). So all in all, this is a neutral argument that I only include for the sake of completeness.
• Account reminds of centralisation, as already mentioned.
• Addressbook is a holonym of address (or the other way around, address is a meronym of addressbook). By contrast, the semantic relation between "account number" and "favourite" is much more vague and so less self-sufficient. Favourites is ambiguous. Favourite pages, favourites features (shortcuts), favourite accounts (obviously the last one but at first sight, not so much).

[aminorex]

i like the synchronous polysemy of cache.   my monero cache contains several wallets, each of which has various addresses but all refer to the same collection of crytonotes.  monero is different from bitcoin because it is more like cash.  cache reinforces that nicely.  the analogy of banknotes in a wallet to cryptonotes in a wallet is sonorous and symmetric, and has actual illustrative, didactic value relevant to features of the transacton protocol, if that should be useful.

so many opinions there are.

[Mumbles]

Way too technical. Grandma doesn't know what cache means.

i like the synchronous polysemy of cache.   my monero cache contains several wallets, each of which has various addresses but all refer to the same collection of crytonotes.  monero is different from bitcoin because it is more like cash.  cache reinforces that nicely.  the analogy of banknotes in a wallet to cryptonotes in a wallet is sonorous and symmetric, and has actual illustrative, didactic value relevant to features of the transacton protocol, if that should be useful.

so many opinions there are.

[mmortal03]

I was able to play with the UI. I had to install QT5 and put the right bin path in "path" environment variable. Great work on this so far. I can't wait for the first working release that we can all test.

You guys have been doing a great job.

QT5, meaning not QT5.3, or should the latter work fine? Which bin directory should work for Windows 7 64-bit, C:\Qt\5.3\msvc2013_64\bin?

[FairProof]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros. 

[GreekBitcoin]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros. 

Nice Is there any thread to check about this website being legit?

[Febo]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros.  

Well done. Small step for Monero huge step for FairProof  

Whats up with monerochain.info?  I just checked it and it still doesnt appear to be synchronized.  Are there any other sites such as that one?  What is the official one?

Thanks.

http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

[Vanderi]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros. 

Well done. Small step for Monero huge step for FairProof 

Such backwards logic. No offense.

That said, it should be easy for other gambling and lottery sites to add monero. It's inevitable as it will not die like so many other coins with which those nice kind of sites do business, anyway

[shitaifan2013]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros.  

Nice Is there any thread to check about this website being legit?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.0

that's the only one i could find. It's primarily new accounts complaining in the thread about costumer service. I didnt try the site myself, so I dont have a clue, if it is legit or not.

But I might check it out for the sake of monero.

EDIT: i just gave it a try. deposited 1xmr which was instant, did play one turn of FairNums and won (yay!), hit withdraw and got my 1.096959XMR instantly.

http://imgur.com/i7DgbbG

am I the first one who gambled with XMR now?  

EDIT2: i did not check out anything else on there, like the verifier etc. so please, if you go there do your own due dilligence.

[Febo]

Guys!

We've added cryptonote-based currency - Monero (XMR).

It seems we are the first lottery who really did.

Go to Fairproof.com and spend your Moneros.  

Well done. Small step for Monero huge step for FairProof  

Such backwards logic. No offense.

That said, it should be easy for other gambling and lottery sites to add monero. It's inevitable as it will not die like so many other coins with which those nice kind of sites do business, anyway

Well not sure. look at Poloniex. They were brave and first put effort to add Monero and now gain lots with it. I am not saying after half year this site will be main among monero gambling sites, but they have upper hand and might get there if they will do it right.

[tibolt]

i sent some xmr to mintpal 2 days ago. i need transaction id now. how can i find it?

[KIRAZ]

i sent some xmr to mintpal 2 days ago. i need transaction id now. how can i find it?

Check in the block explorer. Just paste your address and find the right tx ID.
http://monerochain.info/

[yAmAdA]

Check in the block explorer. Just paste your address and find the right tx ID.
http://monerochain.info/

The anonymity features of Monero work. You cannot just look up all transactions to and from an address.