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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670995 times)
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August 28, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
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Is there any progress in getting the client to use the blockchain from the HDD as opposed to loading it all in RAM?
Looking forward to when an official GUI is put out. I don't mind the command-line [although this is my first time using a command line wallet],
but I think a GUI would really open doors for adoption.

Good job to the devs and community.  Smiley

Tried the wallet, very different to Bitcoin-QT alike wallet. I need more time to understand XMR.

It takes a while to get used to. You can start reading up on the tech here https://cryptonote.org/inside/

I continuously see posts about the lack of GUI wallets, although, there are (more than) 2 open-source software to choose from:

Monero Client .NET (for Windows) - Please use v0.39.0-rc.1!
Monero QT Wallet (for all platforms) - You need to compile it from GitHub

Code:
Monero  (XMR): 47hK4gehaMrFTQCiV5FEmM54hpqTrdHudb9nUBG88NicBDpxH4TGuh3TmW84Dc6dpMiEiBLGvJCuT3xC3LNHctmx7mG8NLM
Bitcoin (BTC): 14wHehBtFt321WTV15khon8Juaxh9drnfJ
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August 28, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
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Join FairProof - the first cryptonote casino!



FairProof benefits:
-provably fair
-bonuses
-instant withdrawals
-instant deposit
-fully anonymous
-unique URL of account
-10% of profit is given to EFF


What is EFF?

When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?

Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.

You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.


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August 28, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
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I continuously see posts about the lack of GUI wallets, although, there are (more than) 2 open-source software to choose from:

Monero Client .NET (for Windows) - Please use v0.39.0-rc.1!
Monero QT Wallet (for all platforms) - You need to compile it from GitHub

True.  I would suggest simply blessing one or both as the official "bootstrap client(s)", to shut them up, and make it easier for motivated non-technical users.
With lots of "rough work" warnings on it, of course.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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August 28, 2014, 06:11:20 PM
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tried that too  Smiley


close bitmonerod.exe, disable kaspersky completely (im 99% sure its kavs fault) then re-open bitmonerod, there is no reason to be stuck unless you have low internet speed so it may take a while to update.

I tried that few times, but no luck.
Then i left it open and Kaspersky killed 100%, and it started to sync but showed error on some 5 days behind.
I restarted it  and it continued to sync, thanks God Smiley
i entered set_log 1 command and i will see what is going on from here Smiley
Thank you all for answers
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August 28, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
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The view key will eventually allow you to do that but for now you can look up the transaction in a block explorer by txid to make sure it was confirmed into the block chain.

Ok. is there a command to get that tx id from wherever i'm sending from? (meaning from simple wallet?? As I would probably/likely send it from the exchange a temporary simplewallet address, then on to the paper address).

So, thats me final question, I promise, and thanks again, much appreciated.

When you send from simplewallet it gives you the txid right away. When you send from an exchange they usually give you the txid on their wallet/balances/withdraw page although it was reported here recently that one of the exchanges did not.

I can confirm that MintPal does not provide a txid. I happened to do my first XMR withdrawal during the DoS attack from a few days ago, so the delay wasn't exactly comforting but in the end the transaction went through OK.

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August 28, 2014, 06:39:55 PM
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Seems like Monero and duckNote are two
The best thing about duckNode is Wittgenstein.  He's dead.


Perhaps you and I could launch RabbitNote?  They would accuse us of being a pure clone, but they are just backwards....
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August 28, 2014, 06:43:55 PM
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-snip-

Your fee on that transaction was 0.2 XMR - http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/487ba284e7f4aecc262901d7ac8d8490a9639484e8c28ffe84de0ba89e7abda6

I see no reason for the fee to be 0.2 XMR, though, are you using a custom build of simplewallet?

No, i use 0.8.8.2 Win64 http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip
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August 28, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
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What if one doesn't like the broadcaster able to determine the anonymity of an transaction?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?
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August 28, 2014, 07:51:47 PM
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Join FairProof - the first cryptonote casino!



FairProof benefits:
-provably fair
-bonuses
-instant withdrawals
-instant deposit
-fully anonymous
-unique URL of account
-10% of profit is given to EFF


What is EFF?

When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?

Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.

You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.




yeah i'm owed btc too.

Bitcoin: 1FzZehkiwfeeUmfmBrym8VvXX7gUj3miHe
XMR: 4AqrzGPfEKeZrVXyPDNXUrNeKZZGNYiXMDoY49PvdffKNTRg6xp2Qz74SZ72gT5F9HH8Vaic99ndRg6 UBGcVijaNStQjwwf
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August 28, 2014, 08:08:38 PM
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Join FairProof - the first cryptonote casino!



FairProof benefits:
-provably fair
-bonuses
-instant withdrawals
-instant deposit
-fully anonymous
-unique URL of account
-10% of profit is given to EFF


What is EFF?

When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?

Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.

You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.




yeah i'm owed btc too.

Their bets looks very.. fake. All bets are huge compared to what you would normaly see on a dice site.

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
https://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
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August 28, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
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Join FairProof - the first cryptonote casino!



FairProof benefits:
-provably fair
-bonuses
-instant withdrawals
-instant deposit
-fully anonymous
-unique URL of account
-10% of profit is given to EFF


What is EFF?

When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?

Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.

You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.




yeah i'm owed btc too.

Their bets looks very.. fake. All bets are huge compared to what you would normaly see on a dice site.

Yea, the site is a scam. Most of the "bets" are above .5 Bitcoin lmao. Even primedice(bitcoins biggest casino) mostly has bets below .1 bitcoin

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August 28, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
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What if one doesn't like the broadcaster able to determine the anonymity of an transaction?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?

Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.

Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.



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August 28, 2014, 08:19:05 PM
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yeah i'm owed btc too.

Okay negative trust added. I encourage others to do the same if you have any bad experience with them. I'm willing to remove mine if they get things cleaned up.

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August 28, 2014, 08:31:44 PM
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Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.

Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Hm, probably most secure would be using an in-between account, I guess.
Could be accessed with TOR, once it's supported.

Not nice, but effective. Or do you think it is overdone?
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August 28, 2014, 08:37:23 PM
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Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.

Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Hm, probably most secure would be using an in-between account, I guess.
Could be accessed with TOR, once it's supported.

Not nice, but effective. Or do you think it is overdone?

Using an in-between account doesn't add anything, because each transfer using a new one-time key pair.

As far as anyone else can tell (non-participant to the transaction), every transfer goes to a new account. Since you are the only participant when sending to yourself, no one else can tell.

The complicating issue is lack of coin control in the wallet currently. The only way to ensure that the coins are resent is to use a separate wallet.

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August 28, 2014, 08:40:28 PM
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I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.  Cheesy

It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.

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August 28, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
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I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.  Cheesy

It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.



Seriously?  It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD.  If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.

Doing very well all things considered ...

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August 28, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
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I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.  Cheesy

It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.



Seriously?  It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD.  If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.

I certainly agree with you that there is much work to be done (and being done).

Regarding XC, DRK, and BTCD, we are literally ahead of XC and BTCD in market cap already and the market caps aren't directly comparable since those are fully mined coins (correct comparison is that we are at parity at roughly 1/6 their cap, which puts us far ahead). We're slightly behind DRK but the momentum is very much in our favor. We'll see.

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August 28, 2014, 09:21:10 PM
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I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.  Cheesy

It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.



Seriously?  It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD.  If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.

Doing very well all things considered ...
It is very much a "diamond in the rough".  The need for a database (the reason for the large RAM requirements), and a strong cross platform GUI come to mind. This has attracted deep pocketed long time BTC holders who are interested in strong long term fundamentals and are willing to spend long hours doing their own research as opposed to just listening to marketing hype.

Edit: It will eventually "take off" but then one will not be able to buy at these prices. This is what a lot of the "smart money" moving into XMR as we speak is betting on.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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August 28, 2014, 09:50:53 PM
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I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.  Cheesy

It's just not ready yet.  When the GUI and database are ironed out, I believe we'll see much more adoption.

So, I view our current status as something of an IPO.  Or a technology preview for us alpha nerds.


I remember years and years ago when Bitcoin was simmering below the surface.  You'd see an occasional release posted to Freshmeat and whatnot.  This is very similar.  Command line and all.

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