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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4678029 times)
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September 04, 2014, 10:53:07 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
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September 04, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
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Noobish question: Does all this new information mean that this "tx-fork bug" only caused a simple -not very enduring- fork? That's all it did? If so, is that a major problem, or simply something that can be fixed easily?


Sometimes noobish questions are the best.


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September 04, 2014, 10:56:03 AM
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Noobish question: Does all this new information mean that this "tx-fork bug" only caused a simple -not very enduring- fork? That's all it did? If so, is that a major problem, or simply something that can be fixed easily?


Yes - BUT it could happen again, so getting to the root of the problem is essential.

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September 04, 2014, 10:56:54 AM
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Hi All,

To speedup download of blockchain, I have prepared torrent file with right blockchain (onyl linux 64bit):

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print_block 202614
block_id: <c29e3dc37d8da3e72e506e31a213a58771b24450144305bcba9e70fa4d6ea6fb>

Available diff 202974
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2014-Sep-04 12:19:19.532192 BH: 202974, DIFF: 1256699629, HR: 20944993 H/s

Torrent file:
http://dwarfpool.com/static/xmr/monero-blockchain-202974.torrent

md5sum
Code:
2bbc74cf91dad9944707e57851e84a9b


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September 04, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
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Ok serious question how can we be sure no additional harm was made during the attack?


When Feathercoin was attacked back in the day the developers did not realise the damage done for several hours....

Maybe some more research should take place before proceeding...
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September 04, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
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Hi Guys,

first off - thanks Fluffypony for sorting things out.

so i started simplewallet and it gets stuck on block 202650 - so i did not enter my password in wallet window.

should i enter my password to see if my coins are there?

so do i download blockchain.bin into monero directory and then start simplewallet again?

please i am not that technical.
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September 04, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.

Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.
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September 04, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
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I'd check ChainRadar first, as they are on the correct chain: http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

If it's not there, then yes, you need to re-download the blockchain, and then delete your wallet.bin (not the .bin.keys) and reopen it as normal. simplewallet will recreate that cache from the wallet creation date onwards, and since you never sent anything on the current chain your coins will still be there.
Erm, it's showing on both.

http://monerochain.info/tx/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

Chainradar on the right:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/202614

Monerochain on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/block/ed4eea6109a1b662cf4a3bb372ed4bdee588160b0ac371c2ad78c5e603b8f2ac

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September 04, 2014, 11:03:34 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.

Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.
So conspiracists now will say that he deliberately left it as is so they will not get suspicious of BBR attacking XMR

lol

I want to see rpietila commenting on this because he claimed that BBR may be behind the attack.

So what now Risto? You take it back or you adopt the above idea?

Paranoia mode ON in this forum..
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September 04, 2014, 11:05:04 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.

Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.
So conspiracists now will say that he deliberately left it as is so they will not get suspicious of BBR attacking XMR

lol

I want to see rpietila commenting on this because he claimed that BBR may be behind the attack.

So what now Risto? You take it back or you adopt the above idea?

Paranoia mode ON in this forum..

The strawman continues:

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I take back all statements that may be understood as "attacking" BBR or its dev.

Thanks Smiley
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September 04, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.

Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.

you forgot to mention the part where he says he can mitigate an attack because it takes so long and that a solution has already be thought of.

CZ didn't say he has a solution. He said he could implement a workaround:

Quote from: crypto_zoidberg
Bad news is that Boolbery also have this flaw. (Like every Cryptonote).
Good news - that this attack need pretty long period of preparation, because to achive big amount of transactions per block attackers need to move median, it's a day or more. That means that even if i see that attack is starting i have enought time to update network with workaround rule, that won't let grow transactions count per block too much to fail.
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September 04, 2014, 11:10:48 AM
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!

Monero devs should act as fast as possible.

Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.

you forgot to mention the part where he says he can mitigate an attack because it takes so long and that a solution has already be thought of.

CZ didn't say he has a solution. He said he could implement a workaround:

Quote from: crypto_zoidberg
Bad news is that Boolbery also have this flaw. (Like every Cryptonote).
Good news - that this attack need pretty long period of preparation, because to achive big amount of transactions per block attackers need to move median, it's a day or more. That means that even if i see that attack is starting i have enought time to update network with workaround rule, that won't let grow transactions count per block too much to fail.

Yes, Zoidberg doesn't even say he know what the problem is. He just said it takes a while and he can mitigate it. The Monero devs can do the same thing (for example limit the number of transactions in a block temporarily or whatever).

XMR and BBR are in the same situation here.
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September 04, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
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Let's give the coin vs. coin sniping a rest for a while.

We're all working on addressing the issue.

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September 04, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
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Let's give the coin vs. coin sniping a rest for a while.

We're all working on addressing the issue.


I agree.

Answering these questions legitimately, will only let your words be used against you. This is a blatant strawman attack, financially motivated and executed technically with a blockchain spam attack. Nothing less than an act of terrorism.

Anyone giving any unconfirmed details is part of it at this point.

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September 04, 2014, 11:16:18 AM
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Hey guys, good morning! Oh shi-

Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSHvgaUWc8
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September 04, 2014, 11:18:54 AM
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Hey guys, good morning! Oh shi-
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September 04, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
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Bittrex.com has disabled Monero.

There was an announcement that some coin will be removed. Monero was not on that list. What is going on? I was carefull and held just part of my Monero in bittrex, but I am anyway pissed of. Is Monero really removed form Bittrex or just for a while. Is there any way to got those Monero back?
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September 04, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
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after starting my wallet it seems to be stuck on block 202651:
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2014-Sep-04 13:13:11.279692 [P2P1][36.33.57.101:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 202651 -> 203025 [374 blocks (0 days) behind] 
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-04 13:13:33.371112 [P2P3]ERROR /home/skunk/bitcoin/bitmonero/src/cryptonote_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:771 alternative chain have wrong connection to main chain
2014-Sep-04 13:13:33.371288 [P2P3]Block recognized as orphaned and rejected, id = <43e9468e7d2092b07cf1a2d81af36dead969f4403b27388771de414ecc1dad9b>
2014-Sep-04 13:13:33.371414 [P2P3][36.33.57.101:18080 OUT]Block received at sync phase was marked as orphaned, dropping connection
did it end on the wrong chain? since the wallet wasn't running during the fork, how can i avoid it ending again on the wrong chain if i resync after redownloading the blockchain from scratch?
thank you

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September 04, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
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Join The Chat at MoneroChat.com much support there !
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September 04, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
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[...]  XMR and BBR are in the same situation here. [...]

But only one of these is relevant enough to actually get attacked.  Grin
Apologies, but I could not resist the temptation of participating in the ramble of thoughts concerning the diverse 3-lettered initiatives.

I would like to extend wishes of a "nighty night" to tacotime, who brought forth meaning to the expression blockchain voyeurtm.
(Note, that's a good thing, I'm just glad you're around and attentive)

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