[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[near_money]

2014-Sep-07 15:34:36.680570 [P2P7][106.120.124.166:11463 INC]Sync data returned
unknown top block: 2161 -> 207166 [205009 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:37.512617 [P2P1][24.87.58.96:65099 INC]Sync data returned unkn
own top block: 2164 -> 207166 [205002 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:41.725858 [P2P9][58.48.130.113:25321 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:43.334950 [P2P1][81.84.156.111:53623 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 202659 [200458 blocks (139 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:43.896983 [P2P2][116.228.239.26:52515 INC]Sync data returned u
nknown top block: 2201 -> 202659 [200458 blocks (139 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:44.139996 [P2P2][95.88.130.140:50056 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:44.395011 [P2P4][60.190.156.254:26092 INC]Sync data returned u
nknown top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

anything goes wrong with SYNCHRONIZATION?

[fluffypony]

anything goes wrong with SYNCHRONIZATION?

Nothing goes wrong, you're synchronising from scratch. If you want to avoid this you can use a blockchain bootstrap as indicated in the OP.

[near_money]

anything goes wrong with SYNCHRONIZATION?

Nothing goes wrong, you're synchronising from scratch. If you want to avoid this you can use a blockchain bootstrap as indicated in the OP.

thanks.
how is the profit now?Could I earn my power fee mining by GPU?

[Aaxx]

This is the current Windows blockchain on the correct fork. 

fluffypony, thank you good man! 

[OrientA]

how is the profit now?Could I earn my power fee mining by GPU?

No. If you pay over $0.1/kWH, you will not cover your electricity cost.

[nioc]

The Drooling Masses® has successfully updated the blockchain and the windows binaries. 

Now the version # needs to be added to the tread title.

[krawallmining]

Can we still expect per KB fees until September ~15th?

Good job if everything else is now working properly again.

[Aaxx]

monero.win.x64.latest.zip
Where are simpleminer.exe & connectivity_tool.exe? So I have use my old ones or this files are not unnecessary anymore?   

[xulescu]

This is completely off-topic:

Monero emission rate closed form

TL;DR: Let a = 2^-20 * 10^-12, then block reward is R_n = M a (1 - a)ⁿ

While absentmindedly reading the OP for the first time in months and admiring what it has become in the meantime, I couldn't help notice that the emission rate is still advertised in that clunky recurrence relation with additional statistics and a graph to illustrate what's going on. While the statistics and graph are certainly well-received, they should not be necessary to convey what everybody feels or "knows" or knows: that Monero has a simple exponentially decreasing emission rate. So I've decided in a burst of melancholia to solve it with pen and paper, as opposed to, say, Mathematica's RSolve or similar.

Proof

Let M = 2⁶⁴ - 1 be the total number of atomic units
Let a = 2^-20 * 10^-12 be the constant that appears in the original definition
Assuming genesis block is number 0
Let R_n be the block reward of block number n

The original recursive definition is that

R_n+1 = (M - R₀ - R₁ - R₂ - ... - R_n) a
R_n+1 = M a - R₀ a - R₁ a - R₂ a - ... - R_n a

So let's expand a few terms

R₀ = M a
R₁ = M a - M a²
R₂ = M a - 2 M a² + M a³
R₃ = M a - 3 M a² + 3 M a³ - M a⁴
...

That looks familiar, doesn't it? Let's try to generalize

R_n = M a - n M a² + ^n(n-1)/₂ M a³ - ... + (-1)ⁿ M aⁿ⁺¹)
R_n = M a (1 - n a + ^n(n-1)/₂ a² - ... + (-1)ⁿ aⁿ)
R_n = M a (1 - a)ⁿ (*)

Huh. Now let's prove it with strong induction (see base cases above)

Assuming R₀, R₁, ..., R_n satisfy (*) above

R_n+1 = M a - R₀ a - R₁ a - R₂ a - ... - R_n a
R_n+1 = M a - M a² - M a² (1 - a) - M a² (1 - a)²- ... - M a² (1 - a)ⁿ
R_n+1 = M a - M a² (1 + (1 - a) + (1 - a)² + ... + (1 - a)ⁿ)
R_n+1 = M a - M a² (1 - (1 - a)ⁿ⁺¹) / (1 - (1 - a))
R_n+1 = M a - M a (1 - (1 - a)ⁿ⁺¹)
R_n+1 = M a ( 1 - (1 - (1 - a)ⁿ⁺¹))
R_n+1 = M a (1 - a)ⁿ⁺¹

QED

Ahhh, feels like 6th grade again...

[oda.krell]

(after reading the last 3 or so pages)

More facts. Less drama.


Also: it should be pretty obvious by now to everyone supporting either XMR or BBR that there is more to be gained from cooperation between (devs & communities of) those two coins than from hostility between them.


EDIT: iCEBREAKER provided a pretty solid summary on the previous page, imo.

[OrientA]

(after reading the last 3 or so pages)

More facts. Less drama.


Also: it should be pretty obvious by now to everyone supporting either XMR or BBR that there is more to be gained from cooperation between (devs & communities of) those two coins than from hostility between them.


EDIT: iCEBREAKER provided a pretty solid summary on the previous page, imo.

I support both. XMR has more market capitalization. But BBR has better blockchain.

[rpietila]

An important attribute for money is limited and knowable supply. I also support cooperation between coins but at the same time there needs to be some limit to what are legitimate coins and what are not. Otherwise you could just expand money supply at will.

In my books, BTC is legitimate due to being the first.

XMR is the legitimate one among cryptonote coins (and by extension - of all anon tech).

There are no other market niches that would support a coin.


2.0 tech such as NXT, XCP maybe good but they should be clearly branded to be something else than coins.

[fluffypony]

monero.win.x64.latest.zip
Where are simpleminer.exe & connectivity_tool.exe? So I have use my old ones or this files are not unnecessary anymore?   

They have never been necessary for regular functioning - if you have a specific use-case for either you'll have to compile them from source:)

[qqqq]

How use this blockchain.bin ? Daemon tools tells Error in command line.

[near_money]

2014-Sep-07 15:34:36.680570 [P2P7][106.120.124.166:11463 INC]Sync data returned
unknown top block: 2161 -> 207166 [205009 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:37.512617 [P2P1][24.87.58.96:65099 INC]Sync data returned unkn
own top block: 2164 -> 207166 [205002 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:41.725858 [P2P9][58.48.130.113:25321 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:43.334950 [P2P1][81.84.156.111:53623 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 202659 [200458 blocks (139 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:43.896983 [P2P2][116.228.239.26:52515 INC]Sync data returned u
nknown top block: 2201 -> 202659 [200458 blocks (139 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:44.139996 [P2P2][95.88.130.140:50056 INC]Sync data returned un
known top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-07 15:34:44.395011 [P2P4][60.190.156.254:26092 INC]Sync data returned u
nknown top block: 2201 -> 207166 [204965 blocks (142 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

anything goes wrong with SYNCHRONIZATION?

You are connecting to pairs is the right chain as well as to pairs on the wrong chain. I would suggest you to ban the connections to the wrong ones, so you will reduce the possibilities of ending up on the wrong chain.

I mean, do this for every node you detect on the "dark side":

$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s <ip_wrong_chain> -j DROP

I did this and I ended up being correctly synchronized on the right chain.

My OS is win7 64bit ,not linux.

[rpietila]

(Funny that I heard this same thing in the trollbox today.) You have an obsession on me, you know deep inside it is you who needs to apologize. But you won't do it. You don't even ask me to do anything, just stalk. The door is still open.

To others: this is a personal matter.

Of course you think I have an obsession with you because your ego is larger than your gigantic bald head (I'm kidding) (ok, not really ) .

But, seriously, I issue I have with Risto is that he has too much influence over crypto noobs who think because he has a little money, that that makes him smart. But to the rest of us his actions are transparent and not noble.

I like XMR. I hope it suceeds. I will probably reinvest.

But for XMR to succeed it needs to have new representation. Risto hurts the things he touches.

I have praised Risto for certain actions and insights he has provided over the years. When he is on, he can be a useful resource and encouragement to people. But when he's freaking out about his finances, he can become a detriment to the cause.

XMR, BBR, both - I dont care.  Im an early adopter no matter what. But if there is an elephant in the room, we should point it out.

It IS an obsession that you come to constantly (like: weekly - this forum has 100000s of accounts, how many do you involve weekly??) harass me, despite that I have said I don't want anything to do with you.

Your problem why I have banned you is that you have offended my family. That is something you need to apologize. Without it, there is no way to reconciliation. It is very simple. Apologize, or go away. I have nothing to say to you. This will not change, you are wasting your time and making a greater fool about yourself. Some things cannot be bought.

[e-coinomist]

...
There are no other market niches that would support a coin.
...

How long will you continue cooking CZ along the Good cop/bad cop layout? How about switching roles, switching into BadPony and Fluffyrpietila just for the change?

Regarding coins I tend to think it parallels the world out there, which supports 160 different currencies. Of course this implies that none of them can go to the moon, not even the Tetradrachmon unless you got in there really, really, really-really early (300y ago, that is before B.C.)

[rpietila]

...
There are no other market niches that would support a coin.
...

How long will you continue cooking CZ along the Good cop/bad cop layout? How about switching roles, switching into BadPony and Fluffyrpietila just for the change?

Regarding coins I tend to think it parallels the world out there, which supports 160 different currencies. Of course this implies that none of them can go to the moon, not even the Tetradrachmon unless you got in there really, really, really-really early (300y ago, that is before B.C.)

In my understanding all coins in the world were either gold, silver, mixture or debased thereof, or tokens exchangeable or redeemable in gold/silver.

That is 2 valuable things. Auxiliary monies have been salt, cattle, and fringe cases.

Yes, I have written a book about it. Happens to be that the only book I have ever written is about monetary history and silver in particular 

What was your point again?

[xulescu]

Regarding coins I tend to think it parallels the world out there, which supports 160 different currencies.

There are 5-15 currencies in the world, depending on how you count; the rest is stamp collecting. Their number is shrinking as economic regions unite. Cryptos are global by design. Do you see where I am going with this?

[fluffypony]

You are connecting to pairs is the right chain as well as to pairs on the wrong chain. I would suggest you to ban the connections to the wrong ones, so you will reduce the possibilities of ending up on the wrong chain.

I mean, do this for every node you detect on the "dark side":

$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s <ip_wrong_chain> -j DROP

I did this and I ended up being correctly synchronized on the right chain.

My OS is win7 64bit ,not linux.

There's no need to do this, just use the latest version. Once you sync up to blocks 202612 - 202614 it will checkpoint to make sure you're on the right chain, and then it will start to ignore those bad peers.