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May 08, 2014, 01:40:25 AM
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We need to get some more miners over to http://jpc.cloudminers.net, preferably from one of the bigger pools.

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May 08, 2014, 01:59:04 AM
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Can i mine it with nvidia?
Yup, and you can beat the AMDs easily. I have 4gb Gtx 680, I can squeeze 4.5Mh/s easily. The newer cards have much higher hashrates, you can check them from the cudaminer topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0

ya but honestly that does not mean anything.
what matters is what the performance is like and what does it say on the pools..
pools calculate your hash rate on what your actually doing and it has nothing at all to do with your hash rates
pools have no way of knowing how fast your hashing (in case people don't know)
for example i created a cpu miner mod that cuts out some of the heavy / costly groestl hashing (for a public beta test only)
did this by dropping groestl if it's going to get run more than once.. if so ? drop the hashing and start over and ask for NEW work.
and that pushed my 500ks/ cpu to 2.2mh/s
but that is not what the pool see's Wink
and technically i am hashing that fast but it does not match the pools algo basically so..

Even you find a target, it will be rejected from the wallet also,
if you skip a round, it will be invalid whatever you have got,
the hash verification is in Pool/Wallet,

Pool do not care miner's hash rate,
They just count how much work has been done.
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May 08, 2014, 02:01:56 AM
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We need to get some more miners over to http://jpc.cloudminers.net, preferably from one of the bigger pools.

Absolutely,
you are right,

The hash should be spread over the whole network (wallets),
Even join in the small hash pool, there is no disadvantages over the long time,

Dear Miners,
Please spread your hashing power,
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May 08, 2014, 02:13:01 AM
Last edit: May 08, 2014, 02:23:04 AM by jpcsupport
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Can anyone tell me if Spoetnik's CPU miner works in cheat mode? It's giving me pretty good hashrates on my i3 laptop but I'm not sure if any blocks I might find will be accepted. Thanks.

you should be fine when it comes to sending QUALITY work.
there should be NO problem at all finding blocks !
the REAL question though is performance actually better or is it an illusion kind of ? i am not so sure it helps much Sad

let me explain what is happening with cheat mode

if hashing is going to take too long it simply drops the work and gets new work to start hashing on.
so it's not possible to send ANY bad shares or invalid data of any kind.
it will work EXACTLY like the official version of the hashing algo.

how the hashing algo works is by running five different hashing algo's in three rounds..
and what normally happens is in order to build a proper final hash the cycle of what hash algo's get triggered and on what round vary a lot.
here is a sample of what it looks like

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gro = 2
_jh = 1
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
blk = 2
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
_jh = 2
ske = 1
blk = 1

the quoted info is where i put some logging into the code to watch what was happening while hashing normally..
each three letter code is the different hashing algo's abbreviated to 3 letters.
and each of those numbers are what round the specific hashing algo was triggered.
that is 5 algo's running 3 rounds and there is 2 specific points where it checks to run one algo or the other.

anyway, so what you see logged right away in first line in my quoted sample info is Groestl got triggered on round 3 (the final round)
so that means it had already completed hashing it's way through rounds 1 and 2 and now it hit GRO on round 3.
what i did was change the code so that it asks for new work if the miner detects that Groestl will get run more than once.
because Groestl i think is the hardest hash algo to run and takes the longest to finish.

so the change i shared for testing on my cpu miner topic in my sig simply on some circumstances stops hashing and asks for new work
it does not change the work that gets sent.. does that make any sense ?

I am not sure you really gain anything in terms of speed doing this.
I Did try something more or less similar on the cgminer code some times ago
Actually I was just counting the number of times the groestl was called and if it was about to enter a 2nd time the groestl condition nothing was done  (which is kind of stupid, just realized, as I should have asked to leave the loop to avoid computing the other algo for nothing... may-be I should check again... )

However if there is a gain in terms of "raw" speed, the probability to find a corresponding hash also decrease since it throws all hashes with 2 (or more) groestl functions.
If I am not mistaken, there is 1/2 chance to get groestl at each round, so 1/4 3/8 to get groestl twice and 1/8 three time
So the probability to get 2 or more groestl is 3/8 1/2
And the probability to get less than 2 should be 5/8 1/2, which is like saying only 1 over 2 hashes are considered by the new algo.

So technically to be faster than the original algorithm, the speed of the "cheat" algo must be 2 times faster than the original to compensate the loss of certain combination.
If it is the case, your cheat is faster otherwise it is slower.
obviously if your cheat is just 2x faster, it has the exact same speed as the original.

(in my case, if I remember well I was slower, but there was a mistake, since I wasn't leaving the loop fast enough)
In any case my conclusion with the R9 290x was that the best way to optimise its performance (versus my gtx780ti) was to run on an other coin...

edit: few error in prob calculation... (hope I got it right this time... it's late...)

Anyway, 3 is the magic number,
and 5:1 balance with 2:2 balance is the other magic number,
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May 08, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
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put more trades on http://cryptofunds.pw people!

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May 08, 2014, 02:24:55 AM
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Can i mine it with nvidia?
Yup, and you can beat the AMDs easily. I have 4gb Gtx 680, I can squeeze 4.5Mh/s easily. The newer cards have much higher hashrates, you can check them from the cudaminer topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0

ya but honestly that does not mean anything.
what matters is what the performance is like and what does it say on the pools..
Well then nice, I have 9.69 Mh/s Wink
I'm getting 4,5 Mh/s reported by the pool, on average.
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May 08, 2014, 03:06:17 AM
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May 08, 2014, 03:06:40 AM
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I like B and E1.
There was also a green variant of B that was interesting.

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May 08, 2014, 03:51:31 AM
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Regarding the coin icons, did you guys see the other variations of D? I only posted links to the gallery, so you might have missed them. One of the devs wanted to see other shades of gold. For example:



which looks like this in other light:



EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to take the whole thread with that huge image, replaced with 256x256. Also corrected the identifier from E to D.
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May 08, 2014, 04:40:29 AM
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May 08, 2014, 04:43:56 AM
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Yep, need to hurry before it is going to next stage ~

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May 08, 2014, 05:15:03 AM
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Looks like we need more promo on our nice new features...

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May 08, 2014, 05:27:36 AM
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Looks like we need more promo on our nice new features...

Yes, we need to be more active in this thread.

Let's vote on JPC in different exchanges!
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May 08, 2014, 05:55:51 AM
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Looks like we need more promo on our nice new features...

Yes, we need to be more active in this thread.

Let's vote on JPC in different exchanges!

And 2+ mil in jackpot now, hope my pool will get it this time Smiley

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May 08, 2014, 07:32:45 AM
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Regarding the coin icons, did you guys see the other varitions of E?

Hi see360

I think you meant D ?
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May 08, 2014, 07:48:33 AM
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May 08, 2014, 08:21:58 AM
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I like this logo !

Regarding the coin icons, did you guys see the other varitions of E? I only posted links to the gallery, so you might have missed them. One of the devs wanted to see other shades of gold. For example:



which looks like this in other light:



EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to take the whole thread with that huge image, replaced with 256x256.
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May 08, 2014, 08:37:02 AM
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Jackpotcoin Mining Pool Hub switching to PPLNS

http://jackpotcoin.miningpoolhub.com

As many miners suggested us to switch to PPLNS, we switched!
It would help more fair distribution of jackpot block.

- 1% Fee PPLNS
- DDoS protected
- Can mine other coins with single account.

Come and mine together!

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May 08, 2014, 09:04:10 AM
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Jackpotcoin Mining Pool Hub switching to PPLNS

http://jackpotcoin.miningpoolhub.com

As many miners suggested us to switch to PPLNS, we switched!
It would help more fair distribution of jackpot block.

- 1% Fee PPLNS
- DDoS protected
- Can mine other coins with single account.

Come and mine together!

I've not been credited anything for the past hour. Is there a problem?
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May 08, 2014, 09:11:43 AM
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Jackpotcoin Mining Pool Hub switching to PPLNS

http://jackpotcoin.miningpoolhub.com

As many miners suggested us to switch to PPLNS, we switched!
It would help more fair distribution of jackpot block.

- 1% Fee PPLNS
- DDoS protected
- Can mine other coins with single account.

Come and mine together!

I've not been credited anything for the past hour. Is there a problem?

same problem here.havnt seen credit for some time.

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