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July 09, 2014, 08:48:47 AM |
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According to the devs Im a Grand Puppet Master
Aladin
Prosperux
John holmes
PtBrennan
LexusFly
JCann83
Obarr88
Kolomoy
Am I understanding this right? This means all this people are me?
NO THEY ARE NOT
I wonder how I ended up in a company of these people. Pretty simple. You all have the same IP. Don't tell me Tor as there are 1000 Tor exit node which are assigned randomly, so the probability that all of you got the same exit node at same time frame (within 24 hours) is lower than winning million dollar lottery |
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patmast3r
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July 09, 2014, 08:51:10 AM |
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According to the devs Im a Grand Puppet Master
Aladin
Prosperux
John holmes
PtBrennan
LexusFly
JCann83
Obarr88
Kolomoy
Am I understanding this right? This means all this people are me?
NO THEY ARE NOT
I wonder how I ended up in a company of these people. Pretty simple. You all have the same IP. Don't tell me Tor as there are 1000 Tor exit node which are assigned randomly, so the probability that all of you got the same exit node at same time frame (within 24 hours) is lower than winning million dollar lottery Some people, actually quite a few advanced users configure TOR to only use a few exit nodes they trust to avoid using a compromised one. Not saying that's the case here - just raising the possiblity. |
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Eadeqa
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July 09, 2014, 08:53:19 AM |
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Some people, actually quite a few advanced users configure TOR to only use a few exit nodes they trust to avoid using a compromised one.
Not saying that's the case here - just raising the possiblity.
Yes, and all of these "advanced" users signed up for an obscure coin too  Timestamp will still burst their buble. I hope dev post all info on the accounts that are proven to be tor exist nodes as user privacy won't be compromised, |
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Prosperux
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July 09, 2014, 08:57:01 AM |
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According to the devs Im a Grand Puppet Master
Aladin
Prosperux
John holmes
PtBrennan
LexusFly
JCann83
Obarr88
Kolomoy
Am I understanding this right? This means all this people are me?
NO THEY ARE NOT
I wonder how I ended up in a company of these people. Pretty simple. You all have the same IP. Don't tell me Tor as there are 1000 Tor exit node which are assigned randomly, so the probability that all of you got the same exit node at same time frame (within 24 hours) is lower than winning million dollar lottery I'm not speaking with fucking puppets. |
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Eadeqa
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July 09, 2014, 08:59:46 AM |
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I'm not speaking with fucking puppets.
Words mean nothing. Are you using Tor and do you give the dev permission to post the IP (won't hurt you if it's Tor exit node) |
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N1ceMan
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July 09, 2014, 09:02:57 AM |
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My account was deleted. Is relatives allowed or not?
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Prosperux
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July 09, 2014, 09:05:53 AM |
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I'm not speaking with fucking puppets.
Words mean nothing. Are you using Tor and do you give the dev permission to post the IP (won't hurt you if it's Tor exit node) Yes. Please feel free to post it here or anywhere else. |
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timmyd
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July 09, 2014, 09:09:42 AM |
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My account was deleted. Is relatives allowed or not?
Apparantly not dude unless your family member lives in a shed in the garden with a separate ip |
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dzarmush
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July 09, 2014, 09:17:35 AM |
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My account was deleted. Is relatives allowed or not?
Apparantly not dude unless your family member lives in a shed in the garden with a separate ip I hope devs will read the last few pages, think about it, understood what they've done to the project, listen to common sense, eliminate obvious puppets, leave alone small groups (2-4) of people who paid from different btc/nxt wallets and proceed with coins distribution. |
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July 09, 2014, 09:31:57 AM |
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i think this coins had it. and thats before i was accused as a puppet. its taken far too long to get the coin out. losing way too mich time on puppets. and the community vibe is down and that makes a coin.
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dzarmush
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July 09, 2014, 09:39:27 AM |
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i think this coins had it. and thats before i was accused as a puppet. its taken far too long to get the coin out. losing way too mich time on puppets. and the community vibe is down and that makes a coin.
I'm optimist ) Devs changed their decisions before after they saw how many people they pissed off. Now it's just another time to admit that they were wrong with treir "98% efficiency of puppet hunting". Let's see how they proceed today before making any long term statements. |
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July 09, 2014, 09:45:08 AM |
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I think alot of people have grown tired of the effort that is involved in keeping on track of this coin. i mean how many ann pages? how many times did you have to check the list to see of you were still on it. checking your not puppeted? and the more distributed this coin becomes the less roi you will get. Not much new money comes this way so if everyone has a stake whos buying a stake?
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Eadeqa
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July 09, 2014, 09:45:58 AM |
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i think this coins had it. and thats before i was accused as a puppet. its taken far too long to get the coin out. losing way too mich time on puppets. and the community vibe is down and that makes a coin.
I'm optimist ) Devs changed their decisions before after they saw how many people they pissed off. Now it's just another time to admit that they were wrong with treir "98% efficiency of puppet hunting". Let's see how they proceed today before making any long term statements. Their efficiency with identifying IPs match is actually 100% .. THey might be referring to same roomate in 2% of cases. There are number of people (not just me) who asked developers to remove their sock puppets. If they change the rules now, all these accounts should be put back on the list. I will object if dzarmush is on any kind of panel as he insulted me and have shown idiocy |
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July 09, 2014, 09:51:18 AM |
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I think alot of people have grown tired of the effort that is involved in keeping on track of this coin. i mean how many ann pages? how many times did you have to check the list to see of you were still on it. checking your not puppeted? and the more distributed this coin becomes the less roi you will get. Not much new money comes this way so if everyone has a stake whos buying a stake?
IMO: more sockpuppets they found, more node to regular stakeholders -> better ROI |
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dzarmush
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July 09, 2014, 09:51:28 AM |
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I think alot of people have grown tired of the effort that is involved in keeping on track of this coin. i mean how many ann pages? how many times did you have to check the list to see of you were still on it. checking your not puppeted? and the more distributed this coin becomes the less roi you will get. Not much new money comes this way so if everyone has a stake whos buying a stake?
I agree. I think there is about 80% posts in the last two threads are complaints on different things and fights between users |
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Eadeqa
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July 09, 2014, 09:53:28 AM |
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I think alot of people have grown tired of the effort that is involved in keeping on track of this coin. i mean how many ann pages? how many times did you have to check the list to see of you were still on it. checking your not puppeted? and the more distributed this coin becomes the less roi you will get. Not much new money comes this way so if everyone has a stake whos buying a stake?
IMO: more sockpuppets they found, more node to regular stakeholders -> better ROI Sock puppets are bad for coin. Look at NFD. Dumpers are dumping it lower than IPO prices. It will be six months to an year before NFD will recover this dump (if ever). |
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July 09, 2014, 09:55:54 AM |
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Sock puppets are bad for original stake holders. any one can buy after launch and dump to high heaven
More distributed to more individual people also has a negative effect. Because of limited new money coming into crypto the more sellers there are means less buyers so price will crumble anyways.
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dzarmush
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July 09, 2014, 09:57:13 AM |
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I think alot of people have grown tired of the effort that is involved in keeping on track of this coin. i mean how many ann pages? how many times did you have to check the list to see of you were still on it. checking your not puppeted? and the more distributed this coin becomes the less roi you will get. Not much new money comes this way so if everyone has a stake whos buying a stake?
IMO: more sockpuppets they found, more node to regular stakeholders -> better ROI The problem is that there will be zero ROI if the most valuable members leave the project because of devs. Looks at Nem and Qora. Nem hasn't been launched but has a value and trading volume because of the community. Qora is launched, has an original source, implemented voting system and name trading service but the price and trading volume are low because of lack of active members. With every new devs' decision Node comes closer and closer to Qora. This puppet hunting might become the last drop. People's patience is not limitless. |
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Eadeqa
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July 09, 2014, 09:59:36 AM |
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Sock puppets are bad for original stake holders. any one can buy after launch and dump to high heaven
If there aren't large amount of sock puppets, not everyone can buy it as that will increase the prices. It's psychological thing. Someone with 10 sock puppets will immediately dump 5 at any price, and that sets a bad trend that is hard ro recover. |
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timmyd
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July 09, 2014, 10:00:56 AM |
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The be all and end all of it is.
You cannot have a truly fair distributed coin and still expect to roi its laughable recently with all this fair distro going on lol its like the holy grail it does not exist
Anyways back to nxtforum.org i go. ill let you guys decide what to do with my senior btt account and my housemates newb account.
peace
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