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July 10, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
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which the price originally suggested around 1000 satoshis ?
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July 10, 2014, 11:25:33 PM
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Node IPO was stupid. Learn here https://bter.com/trade/crsale_btc. They are going to get 1000 BTC the least.

This is perfect IPO. No "sockpuppets" problems. Fair simple and no scams as bter is providing escrow.

They do have 2% maximum cap for single investor. So they do have to try to monitor it somehow like Node does. Same good idea, preventing too big stakes.

2% is close to 100 BTC. It won't be a problem. The problem is "fair distribution" model where everyone gets "equal" amount per share. That model encourages sock puppets, and it was a problem started by Nem. It doesn't work.

 

Like you can't make 10 accounts on Bter and invest 1000 Btc.

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July 11, 2014, 12:57:29 AM
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Wow, what a mess. I just looked over the thread briefly and its getting a little silly. What in gods name is going on here?


1. I'm not a sock puppet, I use tor. Please remove the P52 notation.


2. I looked over the people I have been grouped with, and aside from maybe one of them, they ARE definitely puppets. I can't believe how many people did this. I expected that a few people would sign up twice, but this whole community just got cut by a 1/3 by the looks of it.


3. This community is falling apart. What surprises me is that, from the looks of it, it is not the puppets doing most of the damage. It is real people with real accounts that are doing nothing but arguing, attacking, and plain spreading fud all over the place. Those of you that don't have something good to say just refrain from posting your garbage. The coin is about to launch and I would expect to see ideas floating around about how we can make NODE successful. There was drama during the sockpuppet cleansing period for NEM, but noting like this. It was mostly the socks causing an uproar. Like I said, this appears to be real members of the community doing this. WHY?


4. I have an idea, let's start brainstorming RIGHT NOW as to how we are going to make NODE a success. I will start.

a. Much value has been attached to NEM having a one click install wallet. Will we have that?

b. Let's rename the forum - NODE.

c. I think we should take 10 puppet stakes and have a giveaway at launch. A real simple one, put NODE in your signature, and sign up at the forum and make one post at our forum and you get 2500 NODE. If we used 10 stakes and gave away 2500 NODE to have people put NODE in their signature for a week, that would be enough to get 2000 new people interested and instantly involved in our coin.

These are just ideas, so add to them and come up with some of your own and lets get this coin turned around.


5. The Devs need to let the community know what the new amount of NODE per stake that is going to be distributed to the members. I read the post about the 500,000, but it is much larger now with all the puppets gone, even if we do the giveaway.



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IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE THIS COIN A WINNER!!
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July 11, 2014, 01:00:11 AM
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Amen. I think it seems to have slipped plenty of minds that there's an actual coin on the verge of being released.
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July 11, 2014, 01:36:51 AM
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I never received the 5,000 test NODES.
Will we be getting a total of 505,000 NODE?

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July 11, 2014, 04:38:54 AM
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which the price originally suggested around 1000 satoshis ?
anyone reply Huh
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July 11, 2014, 04:44:32 AM
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I don't know exactly the original price for the coin,maybe it could have been at 1000 satoshi.

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July 11, 2014, 05:04:15 AM
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I don't know exactly the original price for the coin,maybe it could have been at 1000 satoshi.
thanks  Grin
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July 11, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
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Is there a masterplan for the upcoming weeks / months?

Is there a new twitter account since the name change?

Radix - just imagine
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July 11, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
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i wonder where the devs are been a while since last update. i wont support this coin until im unlabelled as a puppet  tbh. I dont see any real inovation here

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July 11, 2014, 10:48:47 AM
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+1 for lexicon´s post (won´t quote the whole text but have a look 2 or 3 posts above)
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July 11, 2014, 10:59:17 AM
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Off topic sorry but needs to be spread. 
Klee some of you may know recently got hacked and lost over 1000btc to the hacker. he is offering 500btc to anyone who can find the hacker. check the thread below for more details. 

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/klee-bounty!/new/#new


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July 11, 2014, 12:33:59 PM
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Off topic sorry but needs to be spread. 
Klee some of you may know recently got hacked and lost over 1000btc to the hacker. he is offering 500btc to anyone who can find the hacker. check the thread below for more details. 

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/klee-bounty!/new/#new



very unfortunate for Klee but i hope he recover all his funds.
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July 11, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
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@ everyone!

We are in process of identifying Puppets and Puppet Masters!

Some of you were already identified and others soon will be!

We stated that our method of identification is 98% accurate leaving for an error margin of 2%! To cover for those 2% we are building a committee of Honest Node Members that will act as judges and will make the final decision upon certain situations: For instance the "rockhill" situation. (with no offense)

The highlighted members are those that are considered puppets with 98% accuracy! If you by chance got into those 2%! Don't panic, and don't be offended! Our goal is to clear the coin of potential usurpers that will eventually drag the coin down, if not eliminated!

But there is also the thing with relatives/friends/family! This kinda situations will be handled by the committee! If for example you have one puppet, the committee will decide if you will be useful for the community, a if that extra stake will harm the coin! But if it was identified that you are associated with 3-5-7 puppets, the answer might be not to your favor. It will be totally up to the committee members!

So far asked dzarmush, hypersire, MsCollec!

If you guys have any other proposals who will be a good judge, or if someone is willing don't hesitate to post it in the thread!


How this will work out your asking:

The devs will act as the offenders
The Committee as judges
And you as the defensive side!

The process:

A thread for complains will be created: where you will be able to point out your complain!

1) The devs will provide proof to the committee, that the accused is guilty!
2) The member will have the right to defend himself, and to bring proof that he is not guilty!
3) The committee will decide trough open vote, if the accused is guilty!

Just like in a real trial!

If you ask why is the committee even necessary! Because they will review sensitive information provided by the dev team, which doesn't belong on the public!



Also there is another way to deal with the matter peacefully! Pm us and we will get by this situation without making a fuss!

We don't have a black list, and you will loose only the puppets, your main account will be kept! And we will have no grudges agains you!


Thank you! Will get back when the committee will be assembled!



I just wanted to get this post highlighted again.

As i saw there were a big amount of sockpuppets in the list. Some of them are already removed, i think the most obvious ones.
The next step is, when i'm right to clarify the status of the remaining ones, which will be done through the commitee,
which Koop4u will announce.

I was a little bit (only a little bit)  surprised to see how many puppets there are.
So this is not really a bad thing and it is really unique so far.

For me, after i followed the discussion of the last pages, it looks like that the problem with the sockpuppets is basing on the
fact that we all know that there a mass of sockpuppets, which raises the pressure to also handle with puppets.

Therefore let us make a nice start, everyone are able to receive at least one stake.

(...)
Also there is another way to deal with the matter peacefully! Pm us and we will get by this situation without making a fuss!

We don't have a black list, and you will loose only the puppets, your main account will be kept! And we will have no grudges agains you!
(...)

So i  am also for a nice giveaway in the beginning (also a nice advertisment) and for me it would be also ok to make a last auction
(only with 15-25 Stakes) to give them, who want more shares or want to join, the opportunity.







there is always a light at the end of the tunnel...
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July 11, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
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1. Rename the Forum

2. Make NODE Twitter

3. Set up a giveaway

4. Auction

5. Let the members know the new estimated stake size

Most importantly, is the value of the stakes. We can be like every other coin and start screaming, "hang on to your coins and don't be a dumper" over and over again.

OR -

Every one of us, each time we want to say those words, "don't dump" (and this would include - to the moon - as well), instead use that energy to post something positive about NODE. Introduce an idea. Point out something said recently that was good. Come up with and idea. It doesn't matter if it is a finished idea. Brainstorm. Tell everyone what you are thinking.

Very soon we are going to have people coming to this thread and taking a look at what we are all about. If they see a community that is on the move, coming up with new things, and treating each other with respect ---> This would be what gives your stake value.

We know the system the devs have come up with is highly advanced. It takes a great community, PEOPLE, to make that technological advancement take hold. Those people are us. This is our coin. WE are NODE. The devs have made the bridge, and now it's up to us to get people to cross it.

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July 11, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
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1. Rename the Forum

2. Make NODE Twitter

3. Set up a giveaway dumpers gonna dump .. free stake = mega dump ...

4. Auction give shares to real investors

5. Let the members know the new estimated stake size

Most importantly, is the value of the stakes. We can be like every other coin and start screaming, "hang on to your coins and don't be a dumper" over and over again.

OR -

Every one of us, each time we want to say those words, "don't dump" (and this would include - to the moon - as well), instead use that energy to post something positive about NODE. Introduce an idea. Point out something said recently that was good. Come up with and idea. It doesn't matter if it is a finished idea. Brainstorm. Tell everyone what you are thinking.

Very soon we are going to have people coming to this thread and taking a look at what we are all about. If they see a community that is on the move, coming up with new things, and treating each other with respect ---> This would be what gives your stake value.

We know the system the devs have come up with is highly advanced. It takes a great community, PEOPLE, to make that technological advancement take hold. Those people are us. This is our coin. WE are NODE. The devs have made the bridge, and now it's up to us to get people to cross it.

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What else? 9?

the less people better, you have the wrong thinking that more people is better, the more people the more the price tends to fall, this is fact
just see Qora the nxt few people and the value goes up, I now see the potential of each stake avail the short term for the NODE 20 btc
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July 11, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
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More people involved in ipo  = no new money
try thinking out of bitcointalk.org like real life business, A coin fairly distributed to everyone on bitcointalk will ultimatley fail

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July 11, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
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1. Rename the Forum

2. Make NODE Twitter

3. Set up a giveaway dumpers gonna dump .. free stake = mega dump ...  giveaway ist a must have (like qora or so with signature/ coins per week)

4. Auction give shares to real investors, bounty, future plans and maybe an auction with 10-15 stakes

5. Let the members know the new estimated stake size

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July 11, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Last edit: July 11, 2014, 07:17:05 PM by DynhoSts
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Node = FAIL

looks like the devs really messed this one up  Roll Eyes
... only say that those who did not get his stake  Roll Eyes ... you can buy after  1000 satoshis per 1 NODE or more  Tongue ... just wait for the release kid

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July 11, 2014, 07:22:26 PM
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@ Hi guys!

It took a while, but it  got here before i had to announce!

We come with a method, to solve the issues created by highlighting the associated accounts!

Those that are willing to complain/prove or jus watch the outcome visit the following thread: LINK

If you have something to say regarding the puppet removal, go ahead and post there!

Restrain yourself from posting in here!

Thank you!


P.S. - The attitude towards the thread/community/project is the key for a successful Coin! So i'm looking for your support guys, if you see someone flooding this thread with depressive/negative content, lets flood him back with positivity!

Remember, its not his fault that he was born a TROLL xD  

P.S.S. - Thank you DynhoSts, for being an active participant!

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