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December 05, 2014, 01:43:22 AM
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Is the chart on: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4139.msg137513#msg137513
literal?

If so, how did you generate enough training data for a 2-5-1 NN that will have the desired output characteristics?
If not, and the number of hidden layers increases as you get more main nodes, what NN do you use? especially if there arent any that are precomputed?

I am assuming you are using the neural network to make routing decisions to find the fastest path. This is a cool idea, but I am not sure a 2-5-1 NN is anywhere near the capacity to handle all the real world scenarios.

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December 05, 2014, 03:36:08 AM
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 #7502

Is the chart on: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4139.msg137513#msg137513
literal?

If so, how did you generate enough training data for a 2-5-1 NN that will have the desired output characteristics?
If not, and the number of hidden layers increases as you get more main nodes, what NN do you use? especially if there arent any that are precomputed?

I am assuming you are using the neural network to make routing decisions to find the fastest path. This is a cool idea, but I am not sure a 2-5-1 NN is anywhere near the capacity to handle all the real world scenarios.

James

James,
good question. Partly we've already answered it.

In fact, there is no any 2x5x1, the diagram only demonstrates the idea of the relationships within the kernel. Unfortunately, it does not reflect the interchangeability of nodes.

Today, according to our estimates with the current formula of the compound (with the current experimental coefficient) Node technology allows 10,000 leading nodes to keep a stable connection between themselves and with the 10,000,000 ordinary nodes at 10% load of bandwidth and fivefold excess of network stability level.

We are not yet ready to reveal some peculiarities, but as I said before we have moved away from conventional "linear" formula N*N.
We conclude this architecture is not suitable for MegaNet from a mathematical point of view. Yes, we are still far to a critical level which would jeopardize the system (which frankly none of the existed cryptocurrency has not yet reached and is unlikely to reach in the near future), but we are not willing to sacrifice transactions speed like other cryptocurrencies.

At the initial stage of the project we spent a few months on a number of experiments with different approaches and mathematical models, and eventually came to the concept of a neural network, as it solves our main tasks optimally.

Average human brain has approximately 86 billion neurons, wherein each neuron has up to 20,000 connections with other neurons. This allows the nerve impulse to find optimal chain and carry nerve impulse within millionths of a second. Furthermore, neurons within the site are interchangeable, which makes the network is almost perfect in terms of sustainability.

Unfortunately, the flat scheme does not able to demonstrate volumetric connections, so you're not yet able to see the beauty of the solution. So be patient Smiley

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December 05, 2014, 04:36:47 AM
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We already have a Node from node.js
So you are going to stay with node.js, not fork? Roll Eyes

I like your questions, it always have a meaning. Grin But I think you should realize that Node.js is only a transit technology, we may at any time to replace it with a more productive if it is more consistent with our tasks.

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December 05, 2014, 05:48:56 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, please holding your NodeCoin
why?
any big news or great update of NodeCoin?



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December 05, 2014, 05:53:17 AM
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I'd suggest ignoring threedream. He just seems to be a less English-literate Taunsew.


Please shut up, you're ignorant, there is good news about NodeCoin

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December 05, 2014, 05:56:25 AM
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I'd suggest ignoring threedream. He just seems to be a less English-literate Taunsew.
I'm sure taunsew has a lot of sock puppets and three dream is one of them.

Sad life he lives if trolling is all he does, I'm sure were the only people he calls "friends" in his life even though he knows we don't like him.


Please shut up, I exist in the community early , There are a lot of good news about NodeCoin

I have to get back all the lost .
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December 05, 2014, 06:07:05 AM
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News :  http://www.coinssource.com/nodecoin-begins-from-square-1-revolutionizes-during-development-phases/

News Exchange : news Said coin-swap.net will add NodeCoin


The community has a lot of ignorant people,very ignorant , I am very sad ,  I have good intentions to help them

Dev , You did very well, continue to support you


I have to get back all the lost .
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December 05, 2014, 06:22:01 AM
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News :  http://www.coinssource.com/nodecoin-begins-from-square-1-revolutionizes-during-development-phases/

News Exchange : news Said coin-swap.net will add NodeCoin


The community has a lot of ignorant people,very ignorant , I am very sad ,  I have good intentions to help them

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This looks like good news.  Should help increase NODE traffic.  I suggest adding that link to the original thread.
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December 05, 2014, 07:52:09 AM
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Is the chart on: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4139.msg137513#msg137513
literal?

If so, how did you generate enough training data for a 2-5-1 NN that will have the desired output characteristics?
If not, and the number of hidden layers increases as you get more main nodes, what NN do you use? especially if there arent any that are precomputed?

I am assuming you are using the neural network to make routing decisions to find the fastest path. This is a cool idea, but I am not sure a 2-5-1 NN is anywhere near the capacity to handle all the real world scenarios.

James

James,
good question. Partly we've already answered it.

In fact, there is no any 2x5x1, the diagram only demonstrates the idea of the relationships within the kernel. Unfortunately, it does not reflect the interchangeability of nodes.

Today, according to our estimates with the current formula of the compound (with the current experimental coefficient) Node technology allows 10,000 leading nodes to keep a stable connection between themselves and with the 10,000,000 ordinary nodes at 10% load of bandwidth ang fivefold excess of network stability level.


Well, extending on James question. I sort of assumed that the architecture in the image is a reduced example drawing.

But of course, asking the obvious is neccessary to get details specified, so good that you did that.

I have another question: Are there any hidden recurrent layers, ie MEMORY ?

That would be extremely interesting!

And which training method does node use? Backpropagation? (sorry if it is mentioned somewhere else already, then just point me there)
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December 05, 2014, 08:19:19 AM
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I'd suggest ignoring threedream. He just seems to be a less English-literate Taunsew.
I'm sure taunsew has a lot of sock puppets and three dream is one of them.

Sad life he lives if trolling is all he does, I'm sure were the only people he calls "friends" in his life even though he knows we don't like him.


Please shut up, I exist in the community early , There are a lot of good news about NodeCoin


 Huh confused  Huh
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December 05, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
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I'd suggest ignoring threedream. He just seems to be a less English-literate Taunsew.
I'm sure taunsew has a lot of sock puppets and three dream is one of them.

Sad life he lives if trolling is all he does, I'm sure were the only people he calls "friends" in his life even though he knows we don't like him.


Please shut up, I exist in the community early , There are a lot of good news about NodeCoin


 Huh confused  Huh


We should build confidence

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December 05, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
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Wallet send a message to itself through the network that contains the
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December 05, 2014, 10:18:50 AM
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Wallet send a message to itself through the network that contains the


Aehmmm, häähhh?HuhHuh Can someone please translate?

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December 05, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
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Devs keep up your great work on node, this project is so interesting to watch. Will be really nice to see it fully developed in real time action in the future.
the dev is always  working hard to make node stable,
and the ,most importance is that it is free.

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December 05, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
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i hope i can afford to hold these long enough  Shocked

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December 06, 2014, 02:03:22 AM
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I was skeptical of Node when it was NXTL because there have been so many failure's copying NXT, but I have to say it's growth has been pretty impressive and consistent and is starting to take shape very nicely... If it continues like this I think the only thing missing is public awareness : hardly any of my associates in  the community have even heard of it... I suppose that is why the focus currently is Marketing and PR which is exactly what it needs ;]


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December 06, 2014, 05:21:01 AM
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i'm waiting free 150 m giveaway  Grin
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i'm waiting free 150 m giveaway  Grin
any detail link to this giveaway?
I am interested at this.

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i'm waiting free 150 m giveaway  Grin
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will there be a free giveaway? i dont think its a good idea
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so where's the github?
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