GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist

[Ron~Popeil]

One RINO is down, but many more won yesterday. I was extremely disappointed with the results from South Carolina.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/us/politics/lindsey-graham-poised-to-hold-off-tea-party-challenge.html

Graham is the Rino #1. If the opposition was more united, then it would have been possible to topple him. Infighting destroyed that chance.  

Yes, the establishment still wins too often, but the growth of (small 'L') libertarianism has been amazing the last ~10 years.
Lindsey Graham interviews are/were tough to watch. He is one person I will not spend 2 seconds on ever again.

I remember seeing him get booed off stage at tea party rally once. ******* carpet bagger.

[bryant.coleman]

I remember seeing him get booed off stage at tea party rally once. ******* carpet bagger.

Lindsey Graham is currently the most senior RINO senator, after many of his friends (including Richard Lugar and Olympia Snowe) and went down in the recent years. The inability to oust him from the GOP shows the sorry state of the party in South Carolina. 

[beetcoin]

I remember seeing him get booed off stage at tea party rally once. ******* carpet bagger.

Lindsey Graham is currently the most senior RINO senator, after many of his friends (including Richard Lugar and Olympia Snowe) and went down in the recent years. The inability to oust him from the GOP shows the sorry state of the party in South Carolina. 

oh god, lindsey graham is hilarious.. i love it when jon stewart mocks his effeminate voice, and makes fun of his name along with it.

[tvbcof]

I remember seeing him get booed off stage at tea party rally once. ******* carpet bagger.

Lindsey Graham is currently the most senior RINO senator, after many of his friends (including Richard Lugar and Olympia Snowe) and went down in the recent years. The inability to oust him from the GOP shows the sorry state of the party in South Carolina. 

oh god, lindsey graham is hilarious.. i love it when jon stewart mocks his effeminate voice, and makes fun of his name along with it.

I thought it interesting that when Snowden called Lindsey Graham a 'degenerate' he shut his yap right quick.  Hehe.

[bryant.coleman]

There was another tea party victory yesterday. Bruce Poliquin won the Republican primary for the 2nd Congressional District seat in Maine, beating Kevin Raye of the establishment lobby by 55% to 45%.

[Chef Ramsay]

There was another tea party victory yesterday. Bruce Poliquin won the Republican primary for the 2nd Congressional District seat in Maine, beating Kevin Raye of the establishment lobby by 55% to 45%.

Thx for pointing this out, I had no idea. Looks like the establishment blew their wad on their Senate nominees and the grassroots are able to fly under the radar, take out one of their leaders and add another good guy from an unexpected area.

[beetcoin]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs? you know, the fiscal cliff and all?

[Bit_Happy]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs? you know, the fiscal cliff and all?

1) What is the real tea party, and what do they stand for?
2) In such an insane world what is "really crazy?"

Edit:
There are two tea parties. The original modern one was started by libertarian republicans in 2007 and the bogus mainstream one was started by the establishment ~1 year later. Any resulting confusion was surely intentional.

[beetcoin]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs? you know, the fiscal cliff and all?

1) What is the real tea party, and what do they stand for?
2) In such an insane world what is "really crazy?"

Edit:
There are two tea parties. The original modern one was started by libertarian republicans in 2007 and the bogus mainstream one was started by the establishment ~1 year later. Any resulting confusing was surely intentional.

2) let's see.. everything that has come out of michelle bachman's mouth? anti vaccination? against the evidence of climate change? sharron engle's abortion quotes? obama muslim/birther conspiracies?

i haven't even gotten started with sarah palin yet. and todd akin.

[Bit_Happy]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs? you know, the fiscal cliff and all?

1) What is the real tea party, and what do they stand for?
2) In such an insane world what is "really crazy?"

Edit:
There are two tea parties. The original modern one was started by libertarian republicans in 2007 and the bogus mainstream one was started by the establishment ~1 year later. Any resulting confusing was surely intentional.

2) let's see.. everything that has come out of michelle bachman's mouth? anti vaccination? against the evidence of climate change? sharron engle's abortion quotes? obama muslim/birther conspiracies?

i haven't even gotten started with sarah palin yet. and todd akin.

Let's focus on Sarah Palin for a moment. She is a perfect example of the fake establishment "Tea Party" that was heavily promoted after the real one was going. I know who Michelle Bachman is but I've never paid too much attention to her....Glad to know she didn't fall for the climate change hoax.* 

*ps. Please learn more about both sides of the "climate change" issue, you might be surprised what you find out.

[bryant.coleman]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs?

If they are considered as crazy by the Democrats and the establishment Republicans, then for sure they must be doing something right. Fiscal cliff resulted from the stubbornness of Democrats, who refused to compromise on anything.

[KimNam]

i don't know about US politic recently
but are republic party don't have any proper candidate anymore? why bush again, many people in this world hate him
since he (and blair) started war.
and no mitt ronney anymore?

[tvbcof]

@beetcoin It is a huge story: you posted while I was typing/editing this post.

Has everyone heard about Eric Cantor getting beat in Virginia by a long-shot candidate?
It is a HUGE upset:

1) Cantor is/was a 'rare' house member with national name recognition.
2) He was widely viewed as the next Speaker of The House.
3) The 'tea party guy' wasn't expected to win.

When I have time, I need to check if the winner is a "real Liberty candidate" or just a "tea party" establishment phoney (i.e like Scott Brown, Marco Rubio, etc)

Down goes Cantor!  I gotta hand it to the Repubs.  I'm impressed!  Now it's the Dems turn.  If they can flush sleezeball Chuck Schumer down the toilet I'll be equally impressed.  Not holding my breath for that one though.

And Brat's $200k beats Cantor's $5M! (NBC numbers)  That is the real story here.  Clearly something is going terribly wrong with American style democracy.  If this scary trend continues watch for a 'fix' of some type.  This sort of thing is simply not to be tolerated.

[beetcoin]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs?

If they are considered as crazy by the Democrats and the establishment Republicans, then for sure they must be doing something right. Fiscal cliff resulted from the stubbornness of Democrats, who refused to compromise on anything.

if i remember correctly, democrats were willing to cut a deal if republicans would agree to a steady tax increase in exchange for budget cuts.. repubs/tea partiers were so vehemently against it that they wouldnt even agree to a $10 budget cut and $1 tax increase. i remember michelle bachman complaining about freeloaders, yet she gets a ton of farm subsidies for her business.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html

besides, tea partiers are crazy for the aforementioned reasons.. you didn't respond to my claims about teabaggers being crazy.

@beetcoin It is a huge story: you posted while I was typing/editing this post.

Has everyone heard about Eric Cantor getting beat in Virginia by a long-shot candidate?
It is a HUGE upset:

1) Cantor is/was a 'rare' house member with national name recognition.
2) He was widely viewed as the next Speaker of The House.
3) The 'tea party guy' wasn't expected to win.

When I have time, I need to check if the winner is a "real Liberty candidate" or just a "tea party" establishment phoney (i.e like Scott Brown, Marco Rubio, etc)

Down goes Cantor!  I gotta hand it to the Repubs.  I'm impressed!  Now it's the Dems turn.  If they can flush sleezeball Chuck Schumer down the toilet I'll be equally impressed.  Not holding my breath for that one though.

And Brat's $200k beats Cantor's $5M! (NBC numbers)  That is the real story here.  Clearly something is going terribly wrong with American style democracy.  If this scary trend continues watch for a 'fix' of some type.  This sort of thing is simply not to be tolerated.

you know who i don't like? harry reid.. that guy is ridiculous. i believe he was hating on the koch brothers, and when someone said compared them to sheldon adelson, he said "it's different with sheldon." that just means he's getting paid by 1 guy and not getting paid by another.

[Ron~Popeil]

what is the consensus towards tea party candidates here? are you okay with them doing shit that is considered crazy by other dems and repubs?

If they are considered as crazy by the Democrats and the establishment Republicans, then for sure they must be doing something right. Fiscal cliff resulted from the stubbornness of Democrats, who refused to compromise on anything.

if i remember correctly, democrats were willing to cut a deal if republicans would agree to a steady tax increase in exchange for budget cuts.. repubs/tea partiers were so vehemently against it that they wouldnt even agree to a $10 budget cut and $1 tax increase. i remember michelle bachman complaining about freeloaders, yet she gets a ton of farm subsidies for her business.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html

besides, tea partiers are crazy for the aforementioned reasons.. you didn't respond to my claims about teabaggers being crazy.

@beetcoin It is a huge story: you posted while I was typing/editing this post.

Has everyone heard about Eric Cantor getting beat in Virginia by a long-shot candidate?
It is a HUGE upset:

1) Cantor is/was a 'rare' house member with national name recognition.
2) He was widely viewed as the next Speaker of The House.
3) The 'tea party guy' wasn't expected to win.

When I have time, I need to check if the winner is a "real Liberty candidate" or just a "tea party" establishment phoney (i.e like Scott Brown, Marco Rubio, etc)

Down goes Cantor!  I gotta hand it to the Repubs.  I'm impressed!  Now it's the Dems turn.  If they can flush sleezeball Chuck Schumer down the toilet I'll be equally impressed.  Not holding my breath for that one though.

And Brat's $200k beats Cantor's $5M! (NBC numbers)  That is the real story here.  Clearly something is going terribly wrong with American style democracy.  If this scary trend continues watch for a 'fix' of some type.  This sort of thing is simply not to be tolerated.

you know who i don't like? harry reid.. that guy is ridiculous. i believe he was hating on the koch brothers, and when someone said compared them to sheldon adelson, he said "it's different with sheldon." that just means he's getting paid by 1 guy and not getting paid by another.

Harry Reid has been an embarrassment for some time. Even the Nevada ranch thing would have benefited his son.

[bryant.coleman]

if i remember correctly, democrats were willing to cut a deal if republicans would agree to a steady tax increase in exchange for budget cuts.. repubs/tea partiers were so vehemently against it that they wouldnt even agree to a $10 budget cut and $1 tax increase.

The American working class is already very heavily taxed, when compared to their counterparts in Russia, Mexico or Brazil. And you are favoring further increasing the tax rates?

[tvbcof]

you know who i don't like? harry reid.. that guy is ridiculous. i believe he was hating on the koch brothers, and when someone said compared them to sheldon adelson, he said "it's different with sheldon." that just means he's getting paid by 1 guy and not getting paid by another.

I'd not heard that about Adelson.  That would explain why he got the leadership position because little else that I've seen over the years could explain or justify it.

[beetcoin]

if i remember correctly, democrats were willing to cut a deal if republicans would agree to a steady tax increase in exchange for budget cuts.. repubs/tea partiers were so vehemently against it that they wouldnt even agree to a $10 budget cut and $1 tax increase.

The American working class is already very heavily taxed, when compared to their counterparts in Russia, Mexico or Brazil. And you are favoring further increasing the tax rates?

tea baggers wouldn't even discuss a $10 tax cut for every $1 increase in taxes. the budget and deficits need to be balanced, but teabaggers wouldn't even agree to a major cut and minor tax increase... and you're the one saying that the democrats are the ones who won't even bother to negotiate?

[tins]

you know who i don't like? harry reid.. that guy is ridiculous. i believe he was hating on the koch brothers, and when someone said compared them to sheldon adelson, he said "it's different with sheldon." that just means he's getting paid by 1 guy and not getting paid by another.

I'd not heard that about Adelson.  That would explain why he got the leadership position because little else that I've seen over the years could explain or justify it.

I appreciate the fact that you are not just some 'yes man' for the administration and are willing to call out both sides.


We need more free thinkers here in the U.S.
I feel one of the biggest divides we face is that everybody (in general, not every individual) has become so partisan throughout the United States. Their side can do no wrong and the other side and do no right. I can't stand FOX or MSNBC. They are both joke stations that are dumbing down our country.

(As an aside-I feel fortunate to live in a state where people don't just punch a straight party ticket in the elections. We have one Dem senator and one Rep senator. A Dem as governor and a Rep and state attorney general.)

[TheButterZone]

tea baggers wouldn't even discuss a $10 tax cut for every $1 increase in taxes. the budget and deficits need to be balanced, but teabaggers wouldn't even agree to a major cut and minor tax increase... and you're the one saying that the democrats are the ones who won't even bother to negotiate?

Human rights-violating units of government need to be liquidated, then goodbye deficit.