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May 07, 2014, 03:47:26 AM
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 Bitcoin brings us all Freedom

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 Bitcoin is Freedom
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 Bitcoin is Freedom from oppression, exploitation & tyranny by Banksters.


 From cradle to grave we have all been financial debt slaves through the debt based fiat currency schemes that should have long ago been outlawed.


 Bitcoin offers People an avenue of Safe Haven that assures a fiscally disciplined currency.

 Bitcoin is vastly superior to traditional fiat currency schemes.


 Bitcoin brings all Peoples Freedom by forcing Decentralized Monetary Competition, and by doing that it will eventually force governments to become fiscally disciplined with their monetary matters, or suffer monetary failures repeatedly until they do.


 Bitcoin will ultimately free governments from their Bankster Masters (each countries Central Bank) when governments finally re-learn to print and issue their own debt-free currencies, while abolishing their existing Central Banks powers and controls over them. This will hopefully occur as the present system fails and governments finally realize they hold all the cards, not the Banksters.



So simply put:



 Bitcoin is Freedom
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May 10, 2014, 07:21:12 PM
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freedom: hip hip hooray!  Cheesy The most awesome aspect of bitcoin though is that you can work hard to be self sufficient. What I'm referring to is BTC mining. BTC is so cool because you are able to do it right from home, and make a comfortable living doing so! At http://lsm-labs.com you can get your own mining rig. The prices have dropped tremendously on the units making it affordable for a VC or even small enterprise to get into the game now. ROI is huge as the price of bitcoin is only going to skyrocket in the next few years.
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May 12, 2014, 12:27:39 PM
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Bitcoin brings us all Freedom


 Bitcoin is Freedom
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 Bitcoin is Freedom from oppression, exploitation & tyranny by Banksters & Governments.


 From cradle to grave we have all been financial debt slaves through the debt based fiat currency schemes that should have long ago been outlawed.


 Bitcoin offers People an avenue of Safe Haven that assures a fiscally disciplined currency.

 Bitcoin is vastly superior to traditional fiat currency schemes.


 Bitcoin brings all Peoples Freedom by forcing Decentralized Monetary Competition, and by doing that it will eventually force governments to become fiscally disciplined with their monetary matters, or suffer monetary failures repeatedly until they do.


 Bitcoin will ultimately free governments from their Bankster Masters (each countries Central Bank) when governments finally re-learn to print and issue their own debt-free currencies, while abolishing their existing Central Banks powers and controls over them. This will hopefully occur as the present system fails and governments finally realize they hold all the cards, not the Banksters.



So simply put:



 Bitcoin is Freedom
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You know Bitcoin is important because governments around the world are all thinking about how to stop or regulate it. It’s difficult to overestimate the potential benefits of Bitcoin and its associated block chain technology. For the first time in human history it’s possible for anyone to send money to, or receive money from anyone else on the planet, virtually free of charge, with complete safety, and without the permission of any corporation or government. So yes bitcoin is the start of freedom .

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May 15, 2014, 05:52:17 AM
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using bitcoin is like a vote for freedom

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May 15, 2014, 05:56:42 AM
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It is freedom as well as power to your pocket. It has eclipsed all the currencies that are controlled by the governments so it makes me look forward to greater things ahead. Lets advocate and promote the BTC, the more the people that use it, the more the governments realise everyone has a right to use their own wealth in their own desired way.
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May 15, 2014, 05:59:58 AM
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mmmms ... even if a few countries shameless disable it and it will eventually become a favorite of people worldwide.
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You know Bitcoin is important because governments around the world are all thinking about how to stop or regulate it. It’s difficult to overestimate the potential benefits of Bitcoin and its associated block chain technology. For the first time in human history it’s possible for anyone to send money to, or receive money from anyone else on the planet, virtually free of charge, with complete safety, and without the permission of any corporation or government. So yes bitcoin is the start of freedom .

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I wish more people knew how big this is.
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May 15, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
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You know Bitcoin is important because governments around the world are all thinking about how to stop or regulate it. It’s difficult to overestimate the potential benefits of Bitcoin and its associated block chain technology. For the first time in human history it’s possible for anyone to send money to, or receive money from anyone else on the planet, virtually free of charge, with complete safety, and without the permission of any corporation or government. So yes bitcoin is the start of freedom .

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I wish more people knew how big this is.

Throughout human history the spark of freedom has overcome the deluge of water poured on it by governments and aristocrats. The longer it takes the more explosive it has generally been. The harder they try to grind it out the more determined it becomes. The natural condition of humanity is freedom and people will and do overcome incredible odds to reach it. Crypto currency will be a watershed event in human history.

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May 16, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
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Not necessarily freedom considering the FBI are one of the top holders of bitcoin  Roll Eyes


I don't see how that's a bad thing. So they hold it. So they take it off the market. That's even less, making btc even more valuable at the end of the day, more rare. All the FBI can do is "lose" it and keep it off the market which is good for btc, or they can sell it off and put it back in play...they sell it for usd...which is their loss Smiley

So let them eat it  Grin

You say "anti government" like that's a bad thing...

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May 16, 2014, 07:03:36 PM
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It would be nice if someone performed this in voice
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May 16, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
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"Bitcoin is freedom" sounds big. When I think about it, it is more like "Bitcoin is anarchy". The word freedom is too positive, and I want to highlight the negative side of freedom when everyone has freedom to do bad things unrestrained.
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May 17, 2014, 01:25:40 AM
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All money means freedom to his holders.
Bitcoin will mean freedom to the ones who have it.
If bitcoin was to assume the role you have in mind, as the dominant currency of a society, it would be a tragedy: a society with permanent deflation, that ruins any economy, where tax evasion would be the rule (unless the Government created serious invasives controls of our use of bitcoin and the Internet), where Government would have serious difficulties to adopt any economic policies to avert economic depression.
Where people who had fiat money would see their savings ruined, since the good money (bitcoin) would drive out the bad money (fiat), because of the so-called Gresham's law.
And since there can be Fractional Reserve banking of bitcoin, we would still have banksters exploring people.
I'm optimistic about bitcoin, but a general adoption would be good only for bitcoin holders, for the rest could be a disaster.

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May 17, 2014, 02:40:58 AM
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mmmms ... even if a few countries shameless disable it and it will eventually become a favorite of people worldwide.

AGREE,  I THINK SO TOO.
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May 17, 2014, 06:54:50 PM
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For the first time in human history it’s possible for anyone to send money to, or receive money from anyone else on the planet, virtually free of charge, with complete safety, and without the permission of any corporation or government. So yes bitcoin is the start of freedom .
And this always put a smile on my face when i use bitcoin.  Grin**FREEDOM**

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May 17, 2014, 08:56:46 PM
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1.a society with permanent deflation, that ruins any economy,
2.where tax evasion would be the rule (unless the Government created serious invasives ontrols of our use of bitcoin and the Internet),
3.where Government would have serious difficulties to adopt any economic policies to avert economic depression.
4.Where people who had fiat money would see their savings ruined, since the good money (bitcoin) would drive out the bad money (fiat), because of the so-called Gresham's law.
5.And since there can be Fractional Reserve banking of bitcoin, we would still have banksters exploring people.

1.Deflation is good for economy, when prices decrease you can reflect before spend your money  Smiley so actor do better choice.
2.If governement decrease the taxes, the risk/benefit for taxe evasion would be lower and people would enjoy pay taxes
3.Why governement should put his hand there ?
4.No, this would be too slow transition for ruin people
5.WTF ?

Read "thieves Emporium"  Wink

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May 17, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
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1) Come on, just read 5m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Effects

2) Decreasing taxes means most social functions of the State would go bankrupt. People who need welfare to survive would end bad. Anyway, many bitcoiners wouldn't pay anything, not even lower taxes.

3) Yes, we don't need the State to have any economic policy, we just let things follow their natural course, like in 1929 and end up with 25% unemployment. In Europe, since 2009, they did little and have 11%. Greece and Spain have about 25%.

4) It would all depend on how fast things would go, taking in account less informed people who would be the ones ending with all the fiat on their banking accounts. Clearly, someone would end up with them.

5) There are already so-called banks offering interests for bitcoins, to lend them again, so FRB.

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May 18, 2014, 01:35:23 AM
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Bitcoin is Freedom  Huh





Umm, no.

Freedom is freedom, bitcoin is... nothing Wink



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May 18, 2014, 05:18:35 AM
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1) Come on, just read 5m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Effects
2) Decreasing taxes means most social functions of the State would go bankrupt. People who need welfare to survive would end bad. Anyway, many bitcoiners wouldn't pay anything, not even lower taxes.
3) Yes, we don't need the State to have any economic policy, we just let things follow their natural course, like in 1929 and end up with 25% unemployment. In Europe, since 2009, they did little and have 11%. Greece and Spain have about 25%.
4) It would all depend on how fast things would go, taking in account less informed people who would be the ones ending with all the fiat on their banking accounts. Clearly, someone would end up with them.
5) There are already so-called banks offering interests for bitcoins, to lend them again, so FRB.

1.Hey guy, it's all this fucking keynesian policy who print more and more money that make people trust bitcoin... Learn austrian economics.

2.Did you know the Laffer affect ? more taxe don't mean more state income (my governement is seeing that now  Tongue) and lower taxes don't mean lower state income. And people would pay because they don't want risk high problem for just few money... Anyway, governement don't need to be big like that.

3.1929 was a keynesian crisis, fed was here and was doing stupid thing as usual  Cheesy And i live in the fucking socialist France that is even more in crisis with more and more taxes ! never taxes stop increase ! and greece and spain was the same, fucking keynesian reform for keep the fucking big governement !

4.yes, and people who buy bitcoin in 2009 will make bigger profit than people who buy now...so what ? that don't mean the last are ruin.

5.they can't create bitcoin like they create dollar in FRB. they can do "paper bitcoin" like the gold ETF but if there is no trust in the bank one paper bitcoin would not have the same value than a real bitcoin.

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May 18, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
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1) Hayek and Friedman had no doubt that a finite money quantity would create deflation. Both defended that the central bank should "print" at a stable rate of increase.

2) Lowering tax rates on an order suggested (enough to make people voluntarily to pay, say 10% on direct taxes) would collapse the state. Please, really read about the Laffer Curve, don't just quote it. All studies point for a maximal tax return rate well above 50%.

3) It seems you think that the 1929 crisis was created by high taxes or that the ideas of Keynes were the cause of the crisis (his main work, the General Theory, is from 1936).

4 and 5) It seems we agree on these points.

Well, since we agree on some points and we won't ever agree on the others, I'm resting my case and will stop here.

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May 18, 2014, 01:46:58 PM
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Monetary Freedom.

Probably the most important freedom ...

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