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February 24, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
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I just want to clarify something about the topic above. Bitcoin is not freedom, But it can give us a way to be free in financial freedom and can give Time freedom in along run or in the near future. If we will study and learn to it.
Freedom in controlling our financial, and it still has a limit on the freedom of our right. We still have a norm to controlling our right. but our financial is the critical part of our lives. So bitcoin has a limit and it's not will guarantee if we will get the freedom of our lives.

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February 24, 2017, 02:55:29 PM
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Bitcoin is allowing to make any transaction anytime, the only thing is the delay it may take if the fee is tiny, besides those i can send any ammount anytime to anyone. Besides those i havent a cost or tax related to my income online of bitcoin, and that feels good to be able to spend all my income online without think about the fee it will picked to the country.
Yes bitcoin give us different types kind of freedom in different ways. As bitcoin is giving us a good profit so it is freedom from the financial problems that we were facing in future. It is freedom from joblessness. If a person has invested a little money here he can start trading with a  little amount of money and even if he do not have any investment then he can make money for free from signature campaign.

I certainly disagree with your examples. Little amount of money in trading wouldn't make as much as you do with the minimum pay on a day job. Little investment on trading would also mean very little gains even if the coins has doubled the price or even tripled it. Leaving your job and trading using small amount of money is straight up a dumb move. There are people that I've talked to in Slack that left their day job because of personal reasons and just trade bitcoins/altcoins but they are making much smaller than their previous day job. If you can live with that, then go on. But it would take years before you get the trading skill that let's you earn as much as you do in your day job.

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February 24, 2017, 03:27:52 PM
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I also think that the government needs time to understand that Bitcoin is a promising coin. The time will come and Bitcoin will be on a par with the dollar.
Bitcoin gives us the freedom and control of banks
Bitcoin is here from 2009 and may be the government have already studied bitcoin, they also know the importance of bitcoin and that may be the reason that that they are not going to bane bitcoin. may be government are also thinking about how to turn legalize bitcoin and they must finding way for making bitcoin as legal currency.
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February 24, 2017, 04:08:27 PM
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I also think that the government needs time to understand that Bitcoin is a promising coin. The time will come and Bitcoin will be on a par with the dollar.
Bitcoin gives us the freedom and control of banks
Bitcoin is here from 2009 and may be the government have already studied bitcoin, they also know the importance of bitcoin and that may be the reason that that they are not going to bane bitcoin. may be government are also thinking about how to turn legalize bitcoin and they must finding way for making bitcoin as legal currency.

Or maybe they have already some plans laid out just in case bitcoin goes mainstream. I'm sure that it's different per country. There are countries that are not power greedy and there are some that wants to control every single thing in their nation. For example, a country like Japan definitely needs bitcoin. Japan holds a lot of bitcoin as of today and they are about to make bitcoin as a legal payment method. Tons of users will be from Japan. The people of Japan are very open to new things like this and they sure are willing to choose something better than fiat.

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February 25, 2017, 05:37:20 AM
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I also think that the government needs time to understand that Bitcoin is a promising coin. The time will come and Bitcoin will be on a par with the dollar.
Bitcoin gives us the freedom and control of banks
Bitcoin is here from 2009 and may be the government have already studied bitcoin, they also know the importance of bitcoin and that may be the reason that that they are not going to bane bitcoin. may be government are also thinking about how to turn legalize bitcoin and they must finding way for making bitcoin as legal currency.

Or maybe they have already some plans laid out just in case bitcoin goes mainstream. I'm sure that it's different per country. There are countries that are not power greedy and there are some that wants to control every single thing in their nation. For example, a country like Japan definitely needs bitcoin. Japan holds a lot of bitcoin as of today and they are about to make bitcoin as a legal payment method. Tons of users will be from Japan. The people of Japan are very open to new things like this and they sure are willing to choose something better than fiat.
For sure big countries who wants innovation are keeping an eye of bitcoin and most of them believe about the future potential of bitcoin.

This technology would certainly help the world to connect faster through transaction without spending the kind of amount that we are currently paying now. Bitcoin will compete with big payment system and as it go more popular, their business will slowly losing it's revenue but that is alright as in return majority will be benefited and government will surely earn more money from taxes when that happens.

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February 26, 2017, 07:44:10 PM
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I also think that the government needs time to understand that Bitcoin is a promising coin. The time will come and Bitcoin will be on a par with the dollar.
Bitcoin gives us the freedom and control of banks
Bitcoin is here from 2009 and may be the government have already studied bitcoin, they also know the importance of bitcoin and that may be the reason that that they are not going to bane bitcoin. may be government are also thinking about how to turn legalize bitcoin and they must finding way for making bitcoin as legal currency.

Or maybe they have already some plans laid out just in case bitcoin goes mainstream. I'm sure that it's different per country. There are countries that are not power greedy and there are some that wants to control every single thing in their nation. For example, a country like Japan definitely needs bitcoin. Japan holds a lot of bitcoin as of today and they are about to make bitcoin as a legal payment method. Tons of users will be from Japan. The people of Japan are very open to new things like this and they sure are willing to choose something better than fiat.
For sure big countries who wants innovation are keeping an eye of bitcoin and most of them believe about the future potential of bitcoin.

This technology would certainly help the world to connect faster through transaction without spending the kind of amount that we are currently paying now. Bitcoin will compete with big payment system and as it go more popular, their business will slowly losing it's revenue but that is alright as in return majority will be benefited and government will surely earn more money from taxes when that happens.
People will be free from paying taxes when they use bitcoin. This kind of freedom. But it is against the law.
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February 26, 2017, 07:59:12 PM
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i believe if the goverment will open the door for bitcoin to sign on his community. But all of them are still need a process dude.
Governments are never ever going to allow bitcoin to become something that is used by everyone and I think that is due to the fact that bitcoin is decentralized and it has no control over not so ever and the fact that it is not stable it could go and go down at any time, and honestly if people start using bitcoin more and more it will become not cool.

In other words, you think that the government will not allow bitcoins simply because of the features that it has. Bitcoin is decentralized, and no one's controlling it. Look at it as a palace that has no King, in fact, there's not even a throne. No one can control bitcoins. There's no way the government can control bitcoins because there's just no way to do so. You can buy all the coins, alright, then you can control it by holding all of them and not selling it ever. But that would just make bitcoin users even happier because they would be millionaires without any effort at all.

The government wouldn't spend that much fund just to prove a point that they are more in control than the simple idea of bitcoins.
There is an idea to conduct bitcoin bank, which means legalization of bitcoin. But this means that bitcoin will lose a lot of benefits themselves. Is it possible in this case to talk about freedom bitcoin users. I think that users may abandon it.
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February 26, 2017, 08:13:54 PM
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i believe if the goverment will open the door for bitcoin to sign on his community. But all of them are still need a process dude.
Governments are never ever going to allow bitcoin to become something that is used by everyone and I think that is due to the fact that bitcoin is decentralized and it has no control over not so ever and the fact that it is not stable it could go and go down at any time, and honestly if people start using bitcoin more and more it will become not cool.

In other words, you think that the government will not allow bitcoins simply because of the features that it has. Bitcoin is decentralized, and no one's controlling it. Look at it as a palace that has no King, in fact, there's not even a throne. No one can control bitcoins. There's no way the government can control bitcoins because there's just no way to do so. You can buy all the coins, alright, then you can control it by holding all of them and not selling it ever. But that would just make bitcoin users even happier because they would be millionaires without any effort at all.

The government wouldn't spend that much fund just to prove a point that they are more in control than the simple idea of bitcoins.


There is a way that bitcoin will be controlled and that will be controlled by groups of people thst holding the most bitcoin. Thst is not possible that only one people that hold huge amount of bitcoin, there must be a group or many groups that hold huge amount to make change it's price. The higher amount they have the easier they can control the market. And for low holder this will not become free because they can't do anything except holding more and more coin
This weakness bitcoin. It turns out that in order to have enough coins, you are in a group or community of users and only then it will be safe. I am disappointed.
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February 27, 2017, 06:37:21 PM
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Freedom bitcoin users very illusory, because if you take into account the fact that users can hope for legalization of bitcoin, the same people will lose a lot. We must face the truth and do not believe in fairy tales.
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February 27, 2017, 06:44:41 PM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..



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February 28, 2017, 09:55:01 AM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
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February 28, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
Online shops that are only located in big countries for sure, I have not seen their presence in our country despite the fact that bitcoin was already recognize here. Bitcoin is recognize as a payment system in our country and we are oblige by the local exchange sites to comply with the ruling of the government.

I see this action of the government will result to a positive effect on the economy of bitcoin as this is the beginning big merchants will be more confident to use bitcoin as their payment system on their business. Let's just wait for the right time and watch how the economy grow for us.

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February 28, 2017, 12:54:12 PM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
I think that the only problem that makes the acceptance in physical shops rather hard is that they're rarely having an update about some information regarding technologies so often that vast majority of them are probably don't even know what's bitcoin and how it works. It's sad but unfortunately true.
And also the fact that they're only giving an attention to many things that only being exposed by the media so often makes bitcoin struggling to have wide acceptance among many physical shops, for example iPay or Google Wallet, they're really often being exposed by the media and ended up getting accepted among physical shop easily.

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February 28, 2017, 03:55:14 PM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
Online shops that are only located in big countries for sure, I have not seen their presence in our country despite the fact that bitcoin was already recognize here. Bitcoin is recognize as a payment system in our country and we are oblige by the local exchange sites to comply with the ruling of the government.

I see this action of the government will result to a positive effect on the economy of bitcoin as this is the beginning big merchants will be more confident to use bitcoin as their payment system on their business. Let's just wait for the right time and watch how the economy grow for us.

I'm sure there's an online shop that accepts bitcoin in your country too, you just haven't found it yet. Popular and big online shops operate on big countries because people there mostly buy things online, thus, they can easily operate there. In addition to that, the establishments around them and the shipping services will be far better than those that are in smaller countries. If you order in Amazon, there's a same day delivery. There's also 2 day delivery. I live in a smaller country (or at least less civilized) and that kind of service will never happen in this place.

I guess the only thing you can do is wait for a trusted online shop to open in your country and be grateful about it. It will be really unwise (at least to me) if you move to another country just because they have better online shops.
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February 28, 2017, 11:56:00 PM
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Bitcoin brings us all Freedom


 Bitcoin is Freedom
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 Bitcoin is Freedom from oppression, exploitation & tyranny by Banksters & Governments.


 From cradle to grave we have all been financial debt slaves through the debt based fiat currency schemes that should have long ago been outlawed.


 Bitcoin offers People an avenue of Safe Haven that assures a fiscally disciplined currency.

 Bitcoin is vastly superior to traditional fiat currency schemes.


 Bitcoin brings all Peoples Freedom by forcing Decentralized Monetary Competition, and by doing that it will eventually force governments to become fiscally disciplined with their monetary matters, or suffer monetary failures repeatedly until they do.


 Bitcoin will ultimately free governments from their Bankster Masters (each countries Central Bank) when governments finally re-learn to print and issue their own debt-free currencies, while abolishing their existing Central Banks powers and controls over them. This will hopefully occur as the present system fails and governments finally realize they hold all the cards, not the Banksters.



So simply put:



 Bitcoin is Freedom
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You know Bitcoin is important because governments around the world are all thinking about how to stop or regulate it. It’s difficult to overestimate the potential benefits of Bitcoin and its associated block chain technology. For the first time in human history it’s possible for anyone to send money to, or receive money from anyone else on the planet, virtually free of charge, with complete safety, and without the permission of any corporation or government. So yes bitcoin is the start of freedom .

Indeed, so much agreed on this statement. That's why I am here so I can easily send money anyone else in the planet and aside from its to quick to send no need to go outside and commute going to remittances outlet just to bring the money to other place of the world. But in bitcoin all you need is laptop/desktop or mobile phone, just simple as that.
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March 01, 2017, 12:11:27 AM
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My understanding of bitcoin:bitcoin is the world's most free assets.This is the first time in the history of human use of technology to achieve the protection of private property of the sacred inviolable.You can destroy my body,bitcoin can not worth a hair,but mine is mine, and no one can take it away.
But this time bitcoin is not free assets. i can get my bitcoin without electricity and i can spend them without the network to get an interaction with an internet.  Cheesy


What you mean you can get bitcoin without electricity? How can access with bitcoin without internet connection? Is that possible? Is that how bitcoin is free in your country? How?
i do not think that thee is any mechanism to use bitcoin without any electricity and internet connection for using bitcoin internet connection is  necessary and without internet connection i do nothing that one can be able to use bitcoin.

Bitcoin provides total freedom, but when the delay in transactions will become fine and Bitcoin will be available to use physically or atleast at most/major stores, then it will be a complete freedom which everybody will enjoy.

Yes, you are right, Bitcoin will give us complete freedom from high commissions and control. Only need to solve the problem of long transactions
that is kinda true, it is really good that all the power when it comes to the money goes to people and not the government, in this way we can make sure that government does not manipulate money.
the bottom line is we are no longer controlled by anyone, including the government, if they were always there was a rule, but when you're using bitcoin, no rules at all. It's truly freedom
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March 01, 2017, 08:42:38 AM
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My understanding of bitcoin:bitcoin is the world's most free assets.This is the first time in the history of human use of technology to achieve the protection of private property of the sacred inviolable.You can destroy my body,bitcoin can not worth a hair,but mine is mine, and no one can take it away.
But this time bitcoin is not free assets. i can get my bitcoin without electricity and i can spend them without the network to get an interaction with an internet.  Cheesy


What you mean you can get bitcoin without electricity? How can access with bitcoin without internet connection? Is that possible? Is that how bitcoin is free in your country? How?
i do not think that thee is any mechanism to use bitcoin without any electricity and internet connection for using bitcoin internet connection is  necessary and without internet connection i do nothing that one can be able to use bitcoin.

Bitcoin provides total freedom, but when the delay in transactions will become fine and Bitcoin will be available to use physically or atleast at most/major stores, then it will be a complete freedom which everybody will enjoy.

Yes, you are right, Bitcoin will give us complete freedom from high commissions and control. Only need to solve the problem of long transactions
that is kinda true, it is really good that all the power when it comes to the money goes to people and not the government, in this way we can make sure that government does not manipulate money.
the bottom line is we are no longer controlled by anyone, including the government, if they were always there was a rule, but when you're using bitcoin, no rules at all. It's truly freedom

Yes, I also like the fact that using Bitcoin I should not report to the government. I am sure that my money will not block, and I do not have to pay commission
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March 01, 2017, 04:42:31 PM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
Online shops that are only located in big countries for sure, I have not seen their presence in our country despite the fact that bitcoin was already recognize here. Bitcoin is recognize as a payment system in our country and we are oblige by the local exchange sites to comply with the ruling of the government.

I see this action of the government will result to a positive effect on the economy of bitcoin as this is the beginning big merchants will be more confident to use bitcoin as their payment system on their business. Let's just wait for the right time and watch how the economy grow for us.
currently big shops are accepting bitcoin for shopping online. while in some area even the physical shops also accept bitcoin for shopping but only in such area where the users of bitcoin are more and the shopkeepers also have sound knowledge about bitcoin. but in such area where the shopkeepers are ignorant about bitcoin they are not ready to accept bitcoin for shopping.

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March 01, 2017, 09:14:15 PM
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You have freedom to use bitcoin but in limited places online since still few website or  people are accepting bitcoin as payment.. but we are growing and hoping like other said to accept bitcoin locally.. but i doubt that government will not let bitcoin to use locally instead it will be mark as illegal currency like in other country.. hope they can make it as legal currency..
we can use bitcoin online in a wide range. i think now most of the big and small online shops are accepting bitcoin, there are so many other online business which are also accepting bitcoins, while in physical shops the use of bitcoin is a little slow but hope that very soon we will also be able to use bitcoin in our legal shops.
Online shops that are only located in big countries for sure, I have not seen their presence in our country despite the fact that bitcoin was already recognize here. Bitcoin is recognize as a payment system in our country and we are oblige by the local exchange sites to comply with the ruling of the government.

I see this action of the government will result to a positive effect on the economy of bitcoin as this is the beginning big merchants will be more confident to use bitcoin as their payment system on their business. Let's just wait for the right time and watch how the economy grow for us.
currently big shops are accepting bitcoin for shopping online. while in some area even the physical shops also accept bitcoin for shopping but only in such area where the users of bitcoin are more and the shopkeepers also have sound knowledge about bitcoin. but in such area where the shopkeepers are ignorant about bitcoin they are not ready to accept bitcoin for shopping.

Yes, this is a very good trend for Bitcoins. The more people know about it, the more will be its price. I hope that in the near future it will be possible to pay Bitcoins at any store for any product

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March 01, 2017, 09:20:14 PM
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In recent years, the trend in which large businesses do not use offshore because they started much control, and even the Swiss banks are not a panacea, so my buying bitcoin and thus escape from the control of your income. This is the freedom that can provide bitcoin user.
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