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October 27, 2016, 12:01:51 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.
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October 27, 2016, 02:25:44 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.


Well maybe it does and it doesn't depending on how you use bitcoin. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense of the people if they want to use bitcoin then no one is going to stop them and since it doesn't require information to start up a transaction, that could be consider as freedom and as well as security to all of us.
You call it a freedom because there is now law that we should abide when using bitcoin, we are not govern by the law of the state and whatever we do will not make it illegal even we are doing things like gambling.. Most of the countries ban gambling but with the advent of bitcoin everything is possible and easy for us to enjoy and with that instance alone, it already demonstrate they we have the freedom.

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October 27, 2016, 03:44:21 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.


Well maybe it does and it doesn't depending on how you use bitcoin. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense of the people if they want to use bitcoin then no one is going to stop them and since it doesn't require information to start up a transaction, that could be consider as freedom and as well as security to all of us.
You call it a freedom because there is now law that we should abide when using bitcoin, we are not govern by the law of the state and whatever we do will not make it illegal even we are doing things like gambling.. Most of the countries ban gambling but with the advent of bitcoin everything is possible and easy for us to enjoy and with that instance alone, it already demonstrate they we have the freedom.

You have  a  point when  we  intend to  play gambling   by  bitcoin even  if  its  banned  on your country  we   could  actually bypass them   because   we  could able  to access  bitcoin anytime which is   trully a  freedom  for  those  who gamble. Actually there  are  lots  of  freedom  we could  able  to  mention here  on bitcoin  just  like  of having a freedom  from tax  on all of  our  assets   because we could definitely  evade it with the  use of bitcoin and also we   have the freedom  to   control all of  our  money   without  using banks  but  still we should remember  on the  risk  involve  of  it.

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October 27, 2016, 04:43:52 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.


I would like to say that bitcoin is cen percentage freedom and anonymous around the usage. Bitcoin is contained with lots of privacy so that bitcoin will be best currency which is independent on use.
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October 27, 2016, 05:00:26 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.


I would like to say that bitcoin is cen percentage freedom and anonymous around the usage. Bitcoin is contained with lots of privacy so that bitcoin will be best currency which is independent on use.

Well, sorta....Many seem to forget that once we start surfing the net, our data is being mined....it wouldn't take much to figure out who, where, what, when, and why we were online for those mining the data.  Once we're online, we're exposed, and bitcoin requires a certain degree of web connectivity to participate.  It's the peripheral activity that gives us away....
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October 27, 2016, 05:06:24 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.


Well maybe it does and it doesn't depending on how you use bitcoin. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense of the people if they want to use bitcoin then no one is going to stop them and since it doesn't require information to start up a transaction, that could be consider as freedom and as well as security to all of us.
You call it a freedom because there is now law that we should abide when using bitcoin, we are not govern by the law of the state and whatever we do will not make it illegal even we are doing things like gambling.. Most of the countries ban gambling but with the advent of bitcoin everything is possible and easy for us to enjoy and with that instance alone, it already demonstrate they we have the freedom.

You have  a  point when  we  intend to  play gambling   by  bitcoin even  if  its  banned  on your country  we   could  actually bypass them   because   we  could able  to access  bitcoin anytime which is   trully a  freedom  for  those  who gamble. Actually there  are  lots  of  freedom  we could  able  to  mention here  on bitcoin  just  like  of having a freedom  from tax  on all of  our  assets   because we could definitely  evade it with the  use of bitcoin and also we   have the freedom  to   control all of  our  money   without  using banks  but  still we should remember  on the  risk  involve  of  it.
Bitcoin has become popular because of gambling and because we are using bitcoin in gambling the restriction is gone and even kids can gamble since no information is required before we can gamble. In addition, we can earn faucets in dice and we can also play, so kids can do it without money.
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October 27, 2016, 05:06:33 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.

Correct. The blockchain, by its very nature, is an unalterable ledger with true memory that records anything and everything within its scope. In a world built on the blockchain, privacy would be non-existent. There isn't anything necessarily wrong with this though, I personally have nothing to hide so I don't have any problem with a blockchain world where my every move is monitored. The blockchain, if properly implemented, would actually be immensely beneficial to the system as a whole, you'd be 'sacrificing' privacy for efficiency, transparency and certainty. Now imagine a world where your very brain is connected to the blockchain  Grin
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October 27, 2016, 05:30:42 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.

Correct. The blockchain, by its very nature, is an unalterable ledger with true memory that records anything and everything within its scope. In a world built on the blockchain, privacy would be non-existent. There isn't anything necessarily wrong with this though, I personally have nothing to hide so I don't have any problem with a blockchain world where my every move is monitored. The blockchain, if properly implemented, would actually be immensely beneficial to the system as a whole, you'd be 'sacrificing' privacy for efficiency, transparency and certainty. Now imagine a world where your very brain is connected to the blockchain  Grin

I think that day will come....There's so much more going on behind the social networking scene than people care to think about and that is scary!  There's so much potential in blockchain technology that its future applications are unimaginable at this point, especially when combined with social networking analytics....Things are happening and they're happening very quickly!
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October 27, 2016, 07:42:31 AM
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Yeah, i can say that i have a freedom with bitcoin, Because whenever i have a time than i am doing work with it, because bitcoin has no time limit like for working hours in a day, if you do work then you can earn and also in earning wise, bitcoin really help me. Many time i say that bitcoin work for me it is a part time job.
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October 27, 2016, 08:08:37 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.

Correct. The blockchain, by its very nature, is an unalterable ledger with true memory that records anything and everything within its scope. In a world built on the blockchain, privacy would be non-existent. There isn't anything necessarily wrong with this though, I personally have nothing to hide so I don't have any problem with a blockchain world where my every move is monitored. The blockchain, if properly implemented, would actually be immensely beneficial to the system as a whole, you'd be 'sacrificing' privacy for efficiency, transparency and certainty. Now imagine a world where your very brain is connected to the blockchain  Grin

I think that day will come....There's so much more going on behind the social networking scene than people care to think about and that is scary!  There's so much potential in blockchain technology that its future applications are unimaginable at this point, especially when combined with social networking analytics....Things are happening and they're happening very quickly!

Blockchain itself is absolutely centralized ("there can be only one"), so why would people want to have to do anything with it if they just could as easily, or even more easily, find and communicate with anyone directly without the apprehension that all their actions are written down and saved somewhere for good? On the other hand, there is a dynamic DNS infrastructure which is less centralized than the blockchain technology, doesn't have "memory", and fits perfectly into the current system. In my opinion, the blockchain would be like a bull in a china shop if we wanted to substitute it for name services. So, could you please provide an example (or two) where the blockchain would beat the currently existing systems hands down, without irrelevant verbiage?

I mean social interactions across the Internet, of course

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October 27, 2016, 08:17:44 AM
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Yes, it's a freedom from a bankster mafia system but isn't total freedom from the power of money.

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October 27, 2016, 08:50:47 AM
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I don't know.  Bitcoin does provide a certain level of freedom to some, but it also reinforces and attaches a certain reliance upon technology.  If one were to transfer all of their liquid capital into bitcoin, then they would have to remain on the grid in order to participate in the marketplace.  And, being attached to the grid comes with a fair amount personal privacy intrusion which cannot be avoided easily.

Correct. The blockchain, by its very nature, is an unalterable ledger with true memory that records anything and everything within its scope. In a world built on the blockchain, privacy would be non-existent. There isn't anything necessarily wrong with this though, I personally have nothing to hide so I don't have any problem with a blockchain world where my every move is monitored. The blockchain, if properly implemented, would actually be immensely beneficial to the system as a whole, you'd be 'sacrificing' privacy for efficiency, transparency and certainty. Now imagine a world where your very brain is connected to the blockchain  Grin

I think that day will come....There's so much more going on behind the social networking scene than people care to think about and that is scary!  There's so much potential in blockchain technology that its future applications are unimaginable at this point, especially when combined with social networking analytics....Things are happening and they're happening very quickly!

Blockchain itself is absolutely centralized ("there can be only one"), so why would people want to have to do anything with it if they just could as easily, or even more easily, find and communicate with anyone directly without the apprehension that all their actions are written down and saved somewhere for good? On the other hand, there is a dynamic DNS infrastructure which is less centralized than the blockchain technology, doesn't have "memory", and fits perfectly into the current system. In my opinion, the blockchain would be like a bull in a china shop if we wanted to substitute it for name services. So, could you please provide an example (or two) where the blockchain would beat the currently existing systems hands down, without irrelevant verbiage?

I mean social interactions across the Internet, of course

In prediction markets where the wisdom of the crowd is monetized....In content markets where the content in question is the actual currency, such as music....Now, I know that the bitcoin blockchain isn't equipped for such applications but....that doesn't mean they're not in the conception phase on other chains....The Ethereum network is already milling around some amazing concepts....  http://dapps.ethercasts.com/
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October 27, 2016, 09:04:52 AM
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Blockchain itself is absolutely centralized ("there can be only one"), so why would people want to have to do anything with it if they just could as easily, or even more easily, find and communicate with anyone directly without the apprehension that all their actions are written down and saved somewhere for good? On the other hand, there is a dynamic DNS infrastructure which is less centralized than the blockchain technology, doesn't have "memory", and fits perfectly into the current system. In my opinion, the blockchain would be like a bull in a china shop if we wanted to substitute it for name services. So, could you please provide an example (or two) where the blockchain would beat the currently existing systems hands down, without irrelevant verbiage?

I mean social interactions across the Internet, of course

In prediction markets where the wisdom of the crowd is monetized....In content markets where the content in question is the actual currency, such as music....Now, I know that the bitcoin blockchain isn't equipped for such applications but....that doesn't mean they're not in the conception phase on other chains....The Ethereum network is already milling around some amazing concepts....  http://dapps.ethercasts.com/

Could you explain how the blockchain as an open and authoritative ledger would conceptually work in these cases, and how it would have advantage over the existing technologies? I mean anything beyond just paying someone for something. Let's take, for example, music...

What would the blockchain technology change in this field?

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October 27, 2016, 11:15:39 AM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.
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October 27, 2016, 04:00:09 PM
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Maybe for someone it will be free to use bitcoin, but it is only when engaged in clandestine or illegal business. Just bitcoin provides such opportunities.
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October 27, 2016, 04:38:53 PM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.

As mentioned in the above quote, bitcoin users get freedom in the transaction as well making investment. Bitcoin itself due to the backing doesn't need a bank, for which the wallet serves as ones own bank. Important thing after this is the decentralization and the transparency in transaction without revealing the identity of the sender and the receiver.
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October 27, 2016, 04:48:11 PM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.

As mentioned in the above quote, bitcoin users get freedom in the transaction as well making investment. Bitcoin itself due to the backing doesn't need a bank, for which the wallet serves as ones own bank. Important thing after this is the decentralization and the transparency in transaction without revealing the identity of the sender and the receiver.
Perhaps bitcoin will in future compete with the banking system and therefore give the user more freedom of use and quality service, but it is not this time. And how many have to wait, not yet known.
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October 27, 2016, 04:50:31 PM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.
But the irony is the fact that we have to use banks in order to withdraw our bitcoins in fiat form. Most of us even used our bank account to buy bitcoins. Of course there are other ways of getting bitcoins and selling bitcoins but this is the main way that do it especially if we're talking about big amounts of money. Even if we get that freedom from bitcoin, the game is still tied to the banks, sadly.

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October 27, 2016, 05:26:58 PM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.

As mentioned in the above quote, bitcoin users get freedom in the transaction as well making investment. Bitcoin itself due to the backing doesn't need a bank, for which the wallet serves as ones own bank. Important thing after this is the decentralization and the transparency in transaction without revealing the identity of the sender and the receiver.
Perhaps bitcoin will in future compete with the banking system and therefore give the user more freedom of use and quality service, but it is not this time. And how many have to wait, not yet known.
Bitcoin can provide freedom from the banking system, which makes people slaves. We know there are many cases when the banks are doing everything to make man a beggar.
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October 27, 2016, 05:31:40 PM
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Definitely, Bitcoin gives the financial freedom to the people.It gives freedom from banks which charge high amount for every transactions.It gives freedom from governments which try to impose heavy taxes.

As mentioned in the above quote, bitcoin users get freedom in the transaction as well making investment. Bitcoin itself due to the backing doesn't need a bank, for which the wallet serves as ones own bank. Important thing after this is the decentralization and the transparency in transaction without revealing the identity of the sender and the receiver.
Perhaps bitcoin will in future compete with the banking system and therefore give the user more freedom of use and quality service, but it is not this time. And how many have to wait, not yet known.
Bitcoin can provide freedom from the banking system, which makes people slaves. We know there are many cases when the banks are doing everything to make man a beggar.
Bitcoin is given to me freedom gambling buy illegal online and i can send it without any verification unlike other payment processor.
bitcoin is a great one for now but in the future if it will be government involve we will experience bad thing that we need to pay like tax.. its not a freedome because they can control this taxes..



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