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maqa71
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June 10, 2014, 11:02:03 AM |
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FAIL!!!
Depending too much on 3rd-party's (exchanges).
Did you ask permission, what if they crash, new laws etc ...
Looks also CoinRecycler is a centralized system ?
Too many questions.
did you ask permission...lol. yeah man those exchanges require permission first before you try and trade coins on their platforms. lol wtf what if they crash...lol. if all exchanges crash at the same time for some reason, the crypto world in general will have a bigger problem new laws...lol laws cant stop crypto. are you nuts? lol this lol that lol wtf. Did anyone ask you anything ? Go back to your tralala land and baghold. |
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seattletu
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June 10, 2014, 11:08:24 AM |
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FAIL!!!
Depending too much on 3rd-party's (exchanges).
Did you ask permission, what if they crash, new laws etc ...
Looks also CoinRecycler is a centralized system ?
Too many questions.
did you ask permission...lol. yeah man those exchanges require permission first before you try and trade coins on their platforms. lol wtf what if they crash...lol. if all exchanges crash at the same time for some reason, the crypto world in general will have a bigger problem new laws...lol laws cant stop crypto. are you nuts? lol this lol that lol wtf. Did anyone ask you anything ? Go back to your tralala land and baghold. I'm sorry man. It's just so easy to LOL at your logic. Carry on. |
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etoque
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June 10, 2014, 11:53:03 AM |
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Wow coinrecycler kick ass chart  |
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superresistant
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June 10, 2014, 11:55:28 AM |
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You're still misunderstanding. Please *read* the posted information.
Ok. Many developers claim to be working on anonymous transactions,
but only CoinRecycler can actually fully guarantee anonymity.
How can you state this ?? What is your analysis on different anonymity methods ? Our special process removes all the complexity that other anonymization methods force on the user. It allows anyone, anywhere, to create anonymous transactions with any coin.
What complex process ? Of which method ? (I agree for Darkcoin though. It is uber super complex for nothing because it cannot be anonymous.) Additionally, our anonymization process goes beyond the blockchain, which
no other coin has done before.
Our cross-blockchain transaction anonymization increases anonymity beyond what is possible for any individual coin to do.
The basic process, step by step:
- Incoming coins are combined, mixed, and sent out to multiple
exchanges in random quantities
By what ? What is mixing the coins at this point ? - Coins are traded on exchanges, converted to BTC and then MAST
Why would exchanges do that for you ? - For extra anonymity, MastiffCoins can be optionally mixed again
and randomly delayed for ultra-anonymous transactions to avoid
time-based statistical grouping analysis
Optional anonymity ? Why making it optional ? You are saying it : time-based statistical grouping analysis can re-trace transactions. - Outgoing MastiffCoins can be sent to yourself or any 3rd party recipient,
in as many smaller transactions of random quantities as desired
Any statistical or forensic analysis of the original coin’s blockchain is broken
by going across multiple coins, multiple exchanges, and optionally being mixed
again and paid out at random times in random quantities.
I don't know if realise but your system put all the trust on the exchange. The exchange do keep a log of every single transaction and every single trade. By accessing the exchange you have access to all informations : - Sender address - Incoming Tx transaction(s) - Sender IP(s) - Trade between cryptos - Outgoing Tx transaction(s) - Receiver address - Receiver IP(s) |
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Totolo
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June 10, 2014, 12:22:06 PM |
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You misunderstand CoinRecycler is not a coin/wallet-based feature, and having CoinRecycler's IP exposed to exchanges is perfectly acceptable. So... the CoinRecycler is a website ?? Sorry I didn't understand that "unwanted coin" mean "sending from other coins". Ok, NEXT ! |
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insanedumps
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June 10, 2014, 12:22:48 PM |
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superresistant
Ca serait sympa de ne pas provoquer de panique ici ...
si tu as des questions il serait plus sage de venir sur ##mastiffcoin afin de discuter tranquillement avec l'équipe
merci ,
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physalis
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June 10, 2014, 12:29:27 PM |
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Look guys, I invented "fully anonymous transactions" for Bitcoin!
I just send Litecoins to an exchange, then sell those Litecoins for Bitcoin and take the Bitcoin out.
How that's in any way an anonymous transaction, you ask? I have no fucking idea, but apparently, that's how these things work now!
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coinjohn
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June 10, 2014, 12:35:22 PM |
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You're still misunderstanding. Please *read* the posted information.
Ok. Many developers claim to be working on anonymous transactions,
but only CoinRecycler can actually fully guarantee anonymity.
How can you state this ?? What is your analysis on different anonymity methods ? Our special process removes all the complexity that other anonymization methods force on the user. It allows anyone, anywhere, to create anonymous transactions with any coin.
What complex process ? Of which method ? (I agree for Darkcoin though. It is uber super complex for nothing because it cannot be anonymous.) Additionally, our anonymization process goes beyond the blockchain, which
no other coin has done before.
Our cross-blockchain transaction anonymization increases anonymity beyond what is possible for any individual coin to do.
The basic process, step by step:
- Incoming coins are combined, mixed, and sent out to multiple
exchanges in random quantities
By what ? What is mixing the coins at this point ? - Coins are traded on exchanges, converted to BTC and then MAST
Why would exchanges do that for you ? - For extra anonymity, MastiffCoins can be optionally mixed again
and randomly delayed for ultra-anonymous transactions to avoid
time-based statistical grouping analysis
Optional anonymity ? Why making it optional ? You are saying it : time-based statistical grouping analysis can re-trace transactions. - Outgoing MastiffCoins can be sent to yourself or any 3rd party recipient,
in as many smaller transactions of random quantities as desired
Any statistical or forensic analysis of the original coin’s blockchain is broken
by going across multiple coins, multiple exchanges, and optionally being mixed
again and paid out at random times in random quantities.
I don't know if realise but your system put all the trust on the exchange. The exchange do keep a log of every single transaction and every single trade. By accessing the exchange you have access to all informations : - Sender address - Incoming Tx transaction(s) - Sender IP(s) - Trade between cryptos - Outgoing Tx transaction(s) - Receiver address - Receiver IP(s) Are you actually interested on how this coin recycler works and provides anonymity or are you here to spam about monero and spread FUD on innovative features? the user zuyfg888 last post on mast helps prove my point even more. From what you're saying even you can retrace and discover who made the transactions, if so, why don't you provide us with some proof on the matter instead of trolling and advertising your interest for another coin in this coin's thread? for a Sr.Member that's a really low blow tbh... even the devs of the coin you're advertising wouldn't approve of your way to advertise |
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superresistant
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June 10, 2014, 12:39:11 PM |
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How come no one asked these very basic questions ? Investors, aren't you curious a little bit about how things work ? superresistant
Ca serait sympa de ne pas provoquer de panique ici ...
si tu as des questions il serait plus sage de venir sur ##mastiffcoin afin de discuter tranquillement avec l'équipe
merci ,
I didn't know there was an IRC to talk with the team. Who is the team BTW ? I only see the OP. |
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physalis
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June 10, 2014, 12:50:00 PM |
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How come no one asked these very basic questions ?
Investors, aren't you curious a little bit about how things work ?
I think most of them know damn well this has nothing at all to do with anonymous transactions. They saw that the newest hype magnet in altcoins is anonymity (DRK etc), so they tried to label it on their CoinRecycler thingy. |
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xamido
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June 10, 2014, 02:57:49 PM |
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I only have these question, is the process automatic or manual? Do you process the transaction manually? What would happen if the number of transaction is large, can you handle it?
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zuyfg888
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June 10, 2014, 02:59:06 PM |
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I only have these question, is the process automatic or manual? Do you process the transaction manually? What would happen if the number of transaction is large, can you handle it?
I think this problem at the time of open beta will get its solution.  |
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etoque
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June 10, 2014, 03:05:55 PM |
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OK, you'll seriously need to reconsider rebranding name for something more serious, not an animal, this is going to be big !
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AltxF4
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June 10, 2014, 03:10:39 PM |
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Hi is anyone using coinking.io to 'mine' mast (via autoconvert?) if so what AltCoins are you mining? I'm struggling to get any converted=>MAST and wondering if I'm not generating enough 'source' coins to trigger the autoconvert (I understand it should be combined with others)
Was hoping to accumulate a few more before we see a Mastiff in space.....
Yeah I have been using coinking. For the coin you want to convert to, if the volume is fairly low it has a hard time buying with how it prices the buy...this is what I was told in their IRC. I have just been taking my mined coins and doing the conversion myself. |
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vir6
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June 10, 2014, 03:13:23 PM |
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OK, you'll seriously need to reconsider rebranding name for something more serious, not an animal, this is going to be big !
Please do some research on why a company should consider rebranding. For example here you can see the top 10 reasons : http://www.vim-group.com/231-the-top-ten-reasons-for-rebrandingSo, there is absolutely no reason to rebrand MAST. |
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etoque
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June 10, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Last edit: June 10, 2014, 04:01:40 PM by etoque |
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OK, you'll seriously need to reconsider rebranding name for something more serious, not an animal, this is going to be big !
Please do some research on why a company should consider rebranding. For example here you can see the top 10 reasons : http://www.vim-group.com/231-the-top-ten-reasons-for-rebrandingSo, there is absolutely no reason to rebrand MAST. Animal coin have a bad réputation and out date image,something non-serious for a serious project. Many people thing mast was junk only because name... rebranding because bad réputation/ outdate image is a good thing, look cloak, pretty samething like mast with better name, work better... People agains thats should really reconsider this ideas |
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