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July 02, 2014, 03:22:11 PM |
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I don't know if you guys are watching the markets right now, but the trading action is exciting. There are multiple attempts by whales to bring down the price (to buy in cheaper) but due to the buy support their attempts fail.
I think that is either a false observation or those whales are not very smart. To try and hold down the price shortly after a great news release is just like fighting the elements. Probably it could be attributed to miners who postponed selling their XC until better times, meaning now : ) there are some GREAT profit opportunities in the market right now. If I held tens of housands of XC, I would definitely use some hundreds to make a decent profit these couple of days and rebuy XC, problem is you really dont know how fast XC is going to get pumped. Once traders and tweeterers notice that XC is getting all the volume they are gonna jump. There are a lot of people who got burned at the old FUD days, if some of them understand what XC has gone through to enjoy these bright days, they might jump up as well. But the greatest news have yet to be noted: 1)Team is preparing interviews with media for Dan(?) 2)Team is talking in order to promote XC with the help of the NFL players? Did I understand correctly? I didn't just read that they bought XC, I think I read in here somewhere that they will actually get involved with the Team? Is this true? AND PRWEB PROMO STARTED ONLY 3 HOURS AGO AND ITS GONNA LAST A WEEK TILL REV2 RELEASE LIKE WTH!!!
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July 02, 2014, 03:22:34 PM |
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Outside investors will take a few days to digest the news, want to buy, convert into BTC and convert into XC. It may be a sustained daily increase over the next few weeks.
Yes it'll take a few days for the news to filter through to print media, etc. and a even longer before opinion pieces and feature articles start appearing. But they're coming. Might not have the impact 'State Side' in US... as it's a holiday week, but this will be a VERY nice anchor for Rev2 release when everyone returns to work and are surfing the internet. I think any later than today and the impact would have been lost, but you might be right in that people are going to take some time to get their money to market.
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I think we will get a vertcoin wave coming over pretty soon, get in while it's cheap loyal holders! Don't let them have cheap coins Many people are not familiar with Vertcoin Stealth Address (First in the world), maybe you're one of them At the moment, we’re working on stealth addresses in Vertcoin. Those of you have been around a while may remember, in the early days of VTC, there was some discussion over zerocoin implementation, and we made clear that anonymous/untraceable payments were not the direction we wanted to go with VTC – we are of the opinion that mainstream adoption won’t come from these features, and that they will actually damage the currencies that go down that route. The fact is, people don’t care about anonymity – if they did, they wouldn’t use social media etc.
However, we do believe in transactional privacy akin to what you expect from your legacy payment/banking systems, such that it’s not trivially easy for anyone to see your entire financial history.
Stealth addresses strike a good balance – all the transactions are still on the blockchain to be seen, but the link between an address and an individual is obfuscated. One thing that not many people seem to consider when talking about anonymity systems in cryptocurrencies is that true anonymous payments make all the blockchain tools you’re used to useless.
Stealth addresses increase privacy for a recipient by allowing you to publish a stealth address, which is like a seed which the sender then uses to generate a unique one-use Vertcoin address for the transaction. All the transactions remain public on the blockchain, but knowing the entire transactional history of your stealth address is now no-longer possible except for you, the holder of the secret key. My resources about stealth addresses so far: Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/media/Vertcoin_SX_VO.mp3 Text, Pictures and Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/ click on Stealth Address http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.html https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/images/e/e5/RHhNKL6.jpgi'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode?
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July 02, 2014, 03:25:22 PM |
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Great to see. But i do think the download page this articles links to can use some work Done. (For now, that is. The website is, as you probably know, getting a complete revamp very soon.)
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July 02, 2014, 03:30:09 PM |
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i'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode?
Stealth mode is not anonymous. It's a mild but practical kind of privacy. A few currencies have P2P anonymity. A few encrypt their broadcasting. A few even have TOR. Lots have insecure or risky forwarding by nodes (the general term for which is a "supernode"). Only XC has multipath. And XC has a layered, modularised architecture that allows us to add features as we wish. XC is a platform; it's a powerful design approach; very good for staying ahead of the pack
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July 02, 2014, 03:32:22 PM |
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first peer-2-peer(p2p) truthless coin. yay! im in. so vericoin, supercoin and darkcoin still not p2p, yet? No, they are P2P, but the release does not give this as grounds for XC being the industry leader. The reason given for its position is a combination of: (a) having successfully resolved technical challenges: avoiding blockchain bloat, avoiding semi-centralisation, being designed as a platform, and not encountering forking issues (b) achieving the highest working level of anonymity due to its layered approach to privacy - TOR, end-to-end encrypted communication, fully decentralised xnodes, and multipath. i want to slap myself to divert my part investment to VTC just 2 days ago. i personally attached too much emotion to VTC. to be honest. VTC stands out in crypto alt. but XC is doing something untouched in crypto world.
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July 02, 2014, 03:33:29 PM |
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i'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode?
Stealth mode is not anonymous. It's a mild but practical kind of privacy. A few currencies have P2P anonymity. A few encrypt their broadcasting. A few even have TOR. Lots have insecure or risky forwarding by nodes (the general term for which is a "supernode"). Only XC has multipath. And XC has a layered, modularised architecture that allows us to add features as we wish. XC is a platform; it's a powerful design approach; very good for staying ahead of the pack This is really why some form of audit needs to be done... to combat all the confusion, and show why XC offers the most complete & advanced anonymous solution with REV2 and subsequent revision updates.
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July 02, 2014, 03:35:09 PM |
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i'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode?
Stealth mode is not anonymous. It's a mild but practical kind of privacy. A few currencies have P2P anonymity. A few encrypt their broadcasting. A few even have TOR. Lots have insecure or risky forwarding by nodes (the general term for which is a "supernode"). Only XC has multipath. And XC has a layered, modularised architecture that allows us to add features as we wish. XC is a platform; it's a powerful design approach; very good for staying ahead of the pack my understanding is they are servers, handled by devs. to this point. drk is actually leader in decentralization compared to other ***send. i am not fuding at XC. XC adopts a greater approach and differentiate himself with others.
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July 02, 2014, 03:35:50 PM |
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I think we will get a vertcoin wave coming over pretty soon, get in while it's cheap loyal holders! Don't let them have cheap coins Many people are not familiar with Vertcoin Stealth Address (First in the world), maybe you're one of them At the moment, we’re working on stealth addresses in Vertcoin. Those of you have been around a while may remember, in the early days of VTC, there was some discussion over zerocoin implementation, and we made clear that anonymous/untraceable payments were not the direction we wanted to go with VTC – we are of the opinion that mainstream adoption won’t come from these features, and that they will actually damage the currencies that go down that route. The fact is, people don’t care about anonymity – if they did, they wouldn’t use social media etc.
However, we do believe in transactional privacy akin to what you expect from your legacy payment/banking systems, such that it’s not trivially easy for anyone to see your entire financial history.
Stealth addresses strike a good balance – all the transactions are still on the blockchain to be seen, but the link between an address and an individual is obfuscated. One thing that not many people seem to consider when talking about anonymity systems in cryptocurrencies is that true anonymous payments make all the blockchain tools you’re used to useless.
Stealth addresses increase privacy for a recipient by allowing you to publish a stealth address, which is like a seed which the sender then uses to generate a unique one-use Vertcoin address for the transaction. All the transactions remain public on the blockchain, but knowing the entire transactional history of your stealth address is now no-longer possible except for you, the holder of the secret key. My resources about stealth addresses so far: Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/media/Vertcoin_SX_VO.mp3 Text, Pictures and Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/ click on Stealth Address http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.html https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/images/e/e5/RHhNKL6.jpgi'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode? In the investment world, it's called Due Diligence. This is the XC thread, of course we are going to say that XC is the best.... Even if we tell you, you shouldn't just believe it blindly. If you want to invest in other coins, then you will have to do your own research.
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July 02, 2014, 03:38:36 PM |
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i'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode?
Stealth mode is not anonymous. It's a mild but practical kind of privacy. A few currencies have P2P anonymity. A few encrypt their broadcasting. A few even have TOR. Lots have insecure or risky forwarding by nodes (the general term for which is a "supernode"). Only XC has multipath. And XC has a layered, modularised architecture that allows us to add features as we wish. XC is a platform; it's a powerful design approach; very good for staying ahead of the pack This is really why some form of audit needs to be done... to combat all the confusion, and show why XC offers the most complete & advanced anonymous solution with REV2 and subsequent revision updates. I couldn't agree more. I wish there were several independent firms doing audits of anon coins. The confusion gives the P&D scams room to breathe and obscures the quality projects.
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July 02, 2014, 03:41:53 PM |
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After only a few hours the press release now has over 30k headline impressions. Wow. So far it has been submitted to 112 media companies. Expect more and more articles to appear over the coming week. And we're up to over 41k headline impressions!
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July 02, 2014, 03:45:52 PM |
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Outside investors will take a few days to digest the news, want to buy, convert into BTC and convert into XC. It may be a sustained daily increase over the next few weeks.
This is happening now. As I thought
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July 02, 2014, 03:46:43 PM |
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Is it wise to market heavily a product that has not been released and proven to work? I have no doubts that the technology is legitimate, but what if it comes out and has some bugs that need patching etc. seen it happen to other coins, as some bugs don't show until adopted by many users over many systems.
Just wondering what the rational was to go into hyper-marketing mode now instead of waiting 5 more days and understanding that everything works. Now I just have to hold my breath and hope we don't face tidal fud again.
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July 02, 2014, 03:47:21 PM |
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I don't know if you guys are watching the markets right now, but the trading action is exciting. There are multiple attempts by whales to bring down the price (to buy in cheaper) but due to the buy support their attempts fail.
I think that is either a false observation or those whales are not very smart. To try and hold down the price shortly after a great news release is just like fighting the elements. Probably it could be attributed to miners who postponed selling their XC until better times, meaning now : ) there are some GREAT profit opportunities in the market right now. If I held tens of housands of XC, I would definitely use some hundreds to make a decent profit these couple of days and rebuy XC, problem is you really dont know how fast XC is going to get pumped. Once traders and tweeterers notice that XC is getting all the volume they are gonna jump. There are a lot of people who got burned at the old FUD days, if some of them understand what XC has gone through to enjoy these bright days, they might jump up as well. But the greatest news have yet to be noted: 1)Team is preparing interviews with media for Dan(?) 2)Team is talking in order to promote XC with the help of the NFL players? Did I understand correctly? I didn't just read that they bought XC, I think I read in here somewhere that they will actually get involved with the Team? Is this true? AND PRWEB PROMO STARTED ONLY 3 HOURS AGO AND ITS GONNA LAST A WEEK TILL REV2 RELEASE LIKE WTH!!! Synechist any comment on this? I think I read it from one of your replies!
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July 02, 2014, 03:49:18 PM |
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Blockchain 2.0, Web 3.0. XC is setting a standard that is really groundbreaking, and is this is just the beginning. This is a revolution of technology that we are blessed to be apart of. The CEO of overstock.com understands that this is something huge. You better believe silicon valley has a keen interest in what's taking shape here.
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July 02, 2014, 03:51:15 PM |
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Is it wise to market heavily a product that has not been released and proven to work? I have no doubts that the technology is legitimate, but what if it comes out and has some bugs that need patching etc. seen it happen to other coins, as some bugs don't show until adopted by many users over many systems.
Just wondering what the rational was to go into hyper-marketing mode now instead of waiting 5 more days and understanding that everything works. Now I just have to hold my breath and hope we don't face tidal fud again.
This is not hyper-marketing. You've seen nothing yet. Also the press release is highly explicit about XC's current beta state. Lastly testing is ongoing and will continue until after Rev 3. Basically it works now, will continue to work later, and will simply be improved upon through XC's beta phase. There'll still be testing after the official launch, and there'll be testing when we unveil the Android wallet. So basically, there's no way to test first and let the word out afterwards. And there's no need to either. XC works. It's market-leading. It's currently being tested. Wonderful.
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July 02, 2014, 03:55:46 PM |
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But the greatest news have yet to be noted:
1)Team is preparing interviews with media for Dan(?) 2)Team is talking in order to promote XC with the help of the NFL players? Did I understand correctly? I didn't just read that they bought XC, I think I read in here somewhere that they will actually get involved with the Team? Is this true?
AND PRWEB PROMO STARTED ONLY 3 HOURS AGO AND ITS GONNA LAST A WEEK TILL REV2 RELEASE LIKE WTH!!!
Synechist any comment on this? I think I read it from one of your replies!
Yeah, look up my post history. It's all there. I've been explicit. Also if people can avoid going beyond what I've said, that would be great. I've said there are NFL players who are invested in XC. I've said we can't reveal their identities unless it's clear that they can be publicly associated with XC. I haven't said they're promoting XC.
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July 02, 2014, 03:57:59 PM |
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I think we will get a vertcoin wave coming over pretty soon, get in while it's cheap loyal holders! Don't let them have cheap coins Many people are not familiar with Vertcoin Stealth Address (First in the world), maybe you're one of them At the moment, we’re working on stealth addresses in Vertcoin. Those of you have been around a while may remember, in the early days of VTC, there was some discussion over zerocoin implementation, and we made clear that anonymous/untraceable payments were not the direction we wanted to go with VTC – we are of the opinion that mainstream adoption won’t come from these features, and that they will actually damage the currencies that go down that route. The fact is, people don’t care about anonymity – if they did, they wouldn’t use social media etc.
However, we do believe in transactional privacy akin to what you expect from your legacy payment/banking systems, such that it’s not trivially easy for anyone to see your entire financial history.
Stealth addresses strike a good balance – all the transactions are still on the blockchain to be seen, but the link between an address and an individual is obfuscated. One thing that not many people seem to consider when talking about anonymity systems in cryptocurrencies is that true anonymous payments make all the blockchain tools you’re used to useless.
Stealth addresses increase privacy for a recipient by allowing you to publish a stealth address, which is like a seed which the sender then uses to generate a unique one-use Vertcoin address for the transaction. All the transactions remain public on the blockchain, but knowing the entire transactional history of your stealth address is now no-longer possible except for you, the holder of the secret key. My resources about stealth addresses so far: Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/media/Vertcoin_SX_VO.mp3 Text, Pictures and Audio: http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/ click on Stealth Address http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.html https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/images/e/e5/RHhNKL6.jpgi'm all confused! stealth mode, darksend, supersend, halosupersend, verisend... which one is p2p, centralize or what kind of technology are they? any better then superduper xc stealth mode? In the investment world, it's called Due Diligence. This is the XC thread, of course we are going to say that XC is the best.... Even if we tell you, you shouldn't just believe it blindly. If you want to invest in other coins, then you will have to do your own research. LOL. this is probably the reason i'v been burned pretty bad, i need DD
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