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July 12, 2014, 08:37:14 AM |
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I know we were..................
If you take the time to read back the messages Teka/Synechist wrote about it you could see that everything that was promised is delivered. We were promised a "decentralized trustless mixer" and we got that (hyping was done by community. Unwillingly and willingly). I really don't see were the problem is? They gave a clear outline about whats to come next and have asked for a little bit of trust. I know this trust thing is a big issue in this Cryptoscene but me thinks this team and dev's have deserved some of it... from everyone ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 12, 2014, 08:44:27 AM |
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What is everyone's "expected time to earn reward"?
Mine has said 2 hours all day. I don't think that feature is very accurate. Staking is like a lottery. Just give it time and the staking will happen. If you give it enough time the amount you should earn levels out on 3.33% annually. This could mean in short term that the numbers don't add up (this could be more or less then the average 3.33%.) Look at it as poker. You can calculate the % but that doesn't mean the cards you need do always come on the flop, turn or river. Also you can get AA back to back. Unlikely, but possible! In the long run these % level out just like in staking! The feature is said to be worked on and these implementations and updated wallet things will all be here when XC launches
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cryptoholic11
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July 12, 2014, 08:51:45 AM |
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What is everyone's "expected time to earn reward"?
Mine has said 2 hours all day. I don't think that feature is very accurate. Staking is like a lottery. Just give it time and the staking will happen. If you give it enough time the amount you should earn levels out on 3.33% annually. This could mean in short term that the numbers don't add up (this could be more or less then the average 3.33%.) Look at it as poker. You can calculate the % but that doesn't mean the cards you need do always come on the flop, turn or river. Also you can get AA back to back. Unlikely, but possible! In the long run these % level out just like in staking! The feature is said to be worked on and these implementations and updated wallet things will all be here when XC launches ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7E6285sam%2F%2Fpwpimages%2F.__320_240_hellmuth_o_GIFSoup.com.gif&t=665&c=NLfiVkuqxTfoVQ)
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mojun7982
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July 12, 2014, 09:52:18 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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synechist
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July 12, 2014, 10:23:28 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come.
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July 12, 2014, 10:40:28 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
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adhitthana
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July 12, 2014, 10:45:00 AM |
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The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure
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leigh2k14
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July 12, 2014, 10:47:10 AM |
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The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting.
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dow1135
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July 12, 2014, 10:52:47 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know. Did you read synechist post?
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infinitechaos
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July 12, 2014, 10:54:08 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised.
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leigh2k14
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July 12, 2014, 10:59:22 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished
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adhitthana
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July 12, 2014, 11:01:26 AM |
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Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised.
Dang! Why can't these guys be like everyone else and not deliver on time? It's so annoying
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infinitechaos
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July 12, 2014, 11:07:51 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished I don't believe we were told it was going to be 'fully finished.' This is beta software. Why are you expecting fully finished beta software? We were delivered what we were told was going to be delivered (full anonymity with trustless mixing is what was promised on the roadmap and that's what we got.)
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leigh2k14
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July 12, 2014, 11:13:55 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished I don't believe we were told it was going to be 'fully finished.' This is beta software. Why are you expecting fully finished beta software? We were delivered what we were told was going to be delivered (full anonymity with trustless mixing is what was promised on the roadmap and that's what we got.) I haven't seen an announcement from Dan saying here is REV2 complete. There is no anon UI.
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leigh2k14
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July 12, 2014, 11:19:30 AM |
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http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zipI have good news: Rev 2 Beta 2 is now on mainnet! You can now download it from the url posted. This is not the final Rev 2 app. Anon features are only accessible from the command line. However, decentralised trustless mixing is working through a simple rpc command via the debug console. This is beta software. Please back up your wallet.dat before using it. Also this release changes everything to XCurrency including the %appdata% directory An updated UI will be released with the privacy mode available through the coin control page. If your testing the distmix command, read the distmix.txt in the zip PM me with any issues or questions ATCSECURE Dan even said: This is not the final REV2 app.
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infinitechaos
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July 12, 2014, 11:20:55 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished I don't believe we were told it was going to be 'fully finished.' This is beta software. Why are you expecting fully finished beta software? We were delivered what we were told was going to be delivered (full anonymity with trustless mixing is what was promised on the roadmap and that's what we got.) I haven't seen an announcement from Dan saying here is REV2 complete. There is no anon UI. Again, there is no reason for you to be expecting an anon UI at this point. It was never promised to be delivered with rev2, in fact on the roadmap it clearly says that rev2.5 will include an updated wallet UI. If dan brings the anonymity features into the UI before rev2.5, then he is over-delivering.
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infinitechaos
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July 12, 2014, 11:27:18 AM |
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Teka, I just noticed that the link to the Europex exchange XC market in the OP leads to nowhere. It seems they may have delisted XC.
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leigh2k14
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July 12, 2014, 11:27:29 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished I don't believe we were told it was going to be 'fully finished.' This is beta software. Why are you expecting fully finished beta software? We were delivered what we were told was going to be delivered (full anonymity with trustless mixing is what was promised on the roadmap and that's what we got.) I haven't seen an announcement from Dan saying here is REV2 complete. There is no anon UI. Again, there is no reason for you to be expecting an anon UI at this point. It was never promised to be delivered with rev2, in fact on the roadmap it clearly says that rev2.5 will include an updated wallet UI. If dan brings the anonymity features into the UI before rev2.5, then he is over-delivering. Weather or not we are getting UI with REV2, it is still not complete. Quote from: atcsecure on July 11, 2014, 01:18:49 AM http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zip ( http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zip) I have good news: Rev 2 Beta 2 is now on mainnet! You can now download it from the url posted. This is not the final Rev 2 app. Anon features are only accessible from the command line. However, decentralised trustless mixing is working through a simple rpc command via the debug console. This is beta software. Please back up your wallet.dat before using it. Also this release changes everything to XCurrency including the %appdata% directory An updated UI will be released with the privacy mode available through the coin control page. If your testing the distmix command, read the distmix.txt in the zip PM me with any issues or questions ATCSECURE
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July 12, 2014, 11:29:23 AM |
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Update REV2.5 at this weekend ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) No. Test-version of secure private messaging this weekend. We're still on Rev 2.0 At present it's on mainnet, and is working just fine. The next Rev 2 update should have trustless mixing available through the UI. Rev 2.5 is still to come. The question is, when is REV2 finally going to be released? That's what everyone wants to know.
And here was me thinking it had been released. That makes me feel better. It's good to see the coin holding it's ground. Quite a few coins have been under some pressure No not yet, it's 5 days late and counting. Rev2 has been released. atcsecure has released a functioning rev2 on mainnet and is working on further updates to bring the trustless mixer into the UI. Everything has been delivered as promised. It's not fully finished I don't believe we were told it was going to be 'fully finished.' This is beta software. Why are you expecting fully finished beta software? We were delivered what we were told was going to be delivered (full anonymity with trustless mixing is what was promised on the roadmap and that's what we got.) I haven't seen an announcement from Dan saying here is REV2 complete. There is no anon UI. Again, there is no reason for you to be expecting an anon UI at this point. It was never promised to be delivered with rev2, in fact on the roadmap it clearly says that rev2.5 will include an updated wallet UI. If dan brings the anonymity features into the UI before rev2.5, then he is over-delivering. Weather or not we are getting UI with REV2, it is still not complete. Quote from: atcsecure on July 11, 2014, 01:18:49 AM http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zip ( http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zip) I have good news: Rev 2 Beta 2 is now on mainnet! You can now download it from the url posted. This is not the final Rev 2 app. Anon features are only accessible from the command line. However, decentralised trustless mixing is working through a simple rpc command via the debug console. This is beta software. Please back up your wallet.dat before using it. Also this release changes everything to XCurrency including the %appdata% directory An updated UI will be released with the privacy mode available through the coin control page. If your testing the distmix command, read the distmix.txt in the zip PM me with any issues or questions ATCSECURE Of course Rev 2 is not fully finished it's beta, from what I understand is Rev 3 is going to be the complete package. Till then why not help out and test the releases, might help move thing along. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 12, 2014, 11:32:12 AM |
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I think all the confusion is in the naming of the releases. If it is beta software then you need to make sure you let people now it is beta.. example: "XC Rev 2" is not as clear as "XC V2 Beta"..
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