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August 08, 2014, 08:35:37 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Coz you get 25 of them
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August 08, 2014, 08:35:48 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! I've ordered my black card.
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August 08, 2014, 08:36:04 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Product Description This an order of 25 custom tor stick with your site or image at the back of the product. Please email store@xc-official.com before ordering.
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August 08, 2014, 08:36:49 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Does xc have anything on the horizon similar to onemarket?
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August 08, 2014, 08:41:34 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Coz you get 25 of them ahhhh, lol, ok, that makes more sense! wasn't very clear on the site, but its there in the description underneath.
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August 08, 2014, 08:44:09 PM |
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I want XChat to be like an encrypted twitter so I can follow certain anonymous addresses and read gibberish all day long. Hell, Dan why don't you just revolutionize social media while you are at it. Encrypted social media on the XC blockchain. BOOM!
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August 08, 2014, 08:48:28 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Does xc have anything on the horizon similar to onemarket? Well, if you look at OP, there are plans for a Decentralized exchange post REV3.
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August 08, 2014, 09:07:21 PM |
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Just curious, but who here has ordered an XC TOR Stick from www.xcmerch.com?I know I have! not yet, will do probably after rev3. one question... why is a custom one an extra £500!? lol Does xc have anything on the horizon similar to onemarket? Well, if you look at OP, there are plans for a Decentralized exchange post REV3. couldn't private payments be evolved into a p2p market place?
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August 08, 2014, 09:11:49 PM |
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Hey guys, I would like to add something. A lot of times its been said that current price doesn't matter. I can tell you that statement is completely faulse. Current price and an upward trending price matter a lot. Any "investor" wants to see a continued return on investment. If they don't, they walk away. If they walk away, they don't usually come back. It becomes too risky because history says its a bad bet. Also, even though day traders and whales have a tendency to dictate the market, in the end without bitcoin we might as well be trading vegtables. If we want XC to overtake bitcoin one day, investors are key. They want to see innovation and development. They won't mind donating a few XC to a marketing campaign or what have you if it in turn helps put money in their pocket. I work for an investment firm, so I know what I'm talking about. You can't pitch something to an investor without showing them evidence that their investment will payoff. So...... Get out there and spread the word about XC. Anyone that has privileged information that is allowed to share should. If you let these forums go stale without any updates to intise people to jump on board, then you can kiss your investment goodbye!
Current price doesn't matter. Fullstop. I'm not going to go personal on this, but I very much doubt you understand this space in comparison to actual institutional investing. As you are someone who works for an investment fund, you must realise this space is completely different from traditional markets. This whole idea of a pump and dump philosophy can easily be paraphrased to cover short term investment decisions, something which this space I'd argue is 90% full of. While in comparison real world markets are completely the opposite. This completely changes the market dynamics to a point where actual price isn't reflective at all of actual value. The current price is more reflective of a lack of short term opportunity, rather than a reflection of actual innovation and value. The thing is, the innovation is what will set the long term price. The issue is that the innovation one isn't fully complete, and two hasn't been advertised. When Rev 3 comes out, and the system is fully functional, expect a huge amount of long term investors to get involved as the true value is realised. This will stabilise the price allot higher than it is now. Honestly, as an ex institutional investor myself, and working alongside institutional investors, we won't even consider setting a sell point until the price breaks 0.01, and until the long term investment arrives and the price is stabilised. We believe with near 100% confidence this rise will be extremely sharp, it just needs a catalyst. See DRKs rise for a prime example. As at now, even just based on Rev 2, XC outperforms DRK as an anonymous technology, it also, in our eyes, where extensive due diligence has been conducted, has a considerably more capable team. The fact XC built a better system in six weeks compared to DRKs six months is testament to this. On top of this, you have major innovations planned such as staking wallets, VISA cards and a revolutionary collaboration with PoBC. While we have very little understanding of what this entails, if it is what we think it is, it will change the entire alt coin space in a more significant way than PoS did. And these are just the innovations we understand, Web 3.0 and Blockchain 2.0 sound just as groundbreaking. Anyways, to all this dying crap. I can outright tell you this coin won't die. While all the short term investors might sell, long term investors like myself and the investors I am in contact with believe in this project far over any other as an investment decision. We know exacly where its going and exactly what sort of return we will get. To summarise, if we have to spend $3 million and outright buy the majority of the coins in circulation we will. We believe in this project 100%, and most importantly, we believe in the team 100%. Heres a warning for all the short term investors, I'm heading back to London in two weeks and ill be allot more active then. Ill also be sitting down with some very important people once i settle to discuss alternative investment strategies for their personal funds. All im going to say is be very careful. Buy while the price is low. Don't miss the boat. We don't want to build a monopoly on the coins in circulation but unless other people want to bite, we will. These are big fish. And we are most likely not the only big fish examining this space and watching the situation very closely. Ill end on this, how long do you think the competition can stay ahead of us when we innovate faster and better? There will be a day of reckoning, I gaurentee it. Media exposure or not, technology is black and white. Exposure will happen. Ill see you all when we hit 0.01 To the team, keep up the great work guys. Ill be seeing you all in person some time soon. Take care, Michael ^ Bump ^ - this great comment from mike x 3 still stands in my mind. Look forward to hearing from him soon. +1
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August 08, 2014, 09:24:01 PM |
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Hey xcoiners! (x-currers?)
I just saw an article on XChat. I was wondering if the XCurrency Devs released any whitepapers or logic diagrams detailing the whole process.
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August 08, 2014, 09:36:25 PM |
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People taking profit... I could have sold too but decided against it. It's too much risk for me to short sale right now I am holding this coin base on its fundamentals. And I believe in MikeMikeMike ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 08, 2014, 09:41:54 PM |
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August 08, 2014, 09:46:11 PM |
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Hey xcoiners! (x-currers?)
I just saw an article on XChat. I was wondering if the XCurrency Devs released any whitepapers or logic diagrams detailing the whole process.
These will come around Rev 3. Here's a sketch for now though: - User A wants to send a message to user B - User A gets pub key of user B - User A encrypts a packet which has his own pubkey and sends to to user B - Only user B can decrypt, since the private key of user B is required to decode a message encrypted with user B's pubkey - Now user B has user A's pubkey, and can encrypt and send back a message.
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August 08, 2014, 09:54:26 PM |
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About to get back onto social media and do my thing, I sent a couple emails to coindesk too.
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August 08, 2014, 09:54:51 PM |
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Amazing that people would dump 25k BTC into Ether when we have some amazing innovation going on here.
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August 08, 2014, 10:00:52 PM |
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About to get back onto social media and do my thing, I sent a couple emails to coindesk too. Great work!
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August 08, 2014, 10:02:09 PM |
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Trying to send synechist a message and getting error message 'message encryption failed'.
No issues here. Been chatting with multiple people. Are you using RC3? On what operating system? The issue can be reproduced on OS X only. Here are my details: { "version" : "v0.9.2.47h.XCurrency-2.47", "protocolversion" : 71030, "walletversion" : 60000, "blocks" : 84742, "moneysupply" : 5522632.98602700, "connections" : 6, "proxy" : "", "difficulty" : 5205.79639598, "testnet" : false, "keypoololdest" : 1405241968, "keypoolsize" : 101, "paytxfee" : 0.00000000, "unlocked_until" : 0, "errors" : "" }
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August 08, 2014, 10:07:25 PM |
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Hey guys, I would like to add something. A lot of times its been said that current price doesn't matter. I can tell you that statement is completely faulse. Current price and an upward trending price matter a lot. Any "investor" wants to see a continued return on investment. If they don't, they walk away. If they walk away, they don't usually come back. It becomes too risky because history says its a bad bet. Also, even though day traders and whales have a tendency to dictate the market, in the end without bitcoin we might as well be trading vegtables. If we want XC to overtake bitcoin one day, investors are key. They want to see innovation and development. They won't mind donating a few XC to a marketing campaign or what have you if it in turn helps put money in their pocket. I work for an investment firm, so I know what I'm talking about. You can't pitch something to an investor without showing them evidence that their investment will payoff. So...... Get out there and spread the word about XC. Anyone that has privileged information that is allowed to share should. If you let these forums go stale without any updates to intise people to jump on board, then you can kiss your investment goodbye!
Current price doesn't matter. Fullstop. I'm not going to go personal on this, but I very much doubt you understand this space in comparison to actual institutional investing. As you are someone who works for an investment fund, you must realise this space is completely different from traditional markets. This whole idea of a pump and dump philosophy can easily be paraphrased to cover short term investment decisions, something which this space I'd argue is 90% full of. While in comparison real world markets are completely the opposite. This completely changes the market dynamics to a point where actual price isn't reflective at all of actual value. The current price is more reflective of a lack of short term opportunity, rather than a reflection of actual innovation and value. The thing is, the innovation is what will set the long term price. The issue is that the innovation one isn't fully complete, and two hasn't been advertised. When Rev 3 comes out, and the system is fully functional, expect a huge amount of long term investors to get involved as the true value is realised. This will stabilise the price allot higher than it is now. Honestly, as an ex institutional investor myself, and working alongside institutional investors, we won't even consider setting a sell point until the price breaks 0.01, and until the long term investment arrives and the price is stabilised. We believe with near 100% confidence this rise will be extremely sharp, it just needs a catalyst. See DRKs rise for a prime example. As at now, even just based on Rev 2, XC outperforms DRK as an anonymous technology, it also, in our eyes, where extensive due diligence has been conducted, has a considerably more capable team. The fact XC built a better system in six weeks compared to DRKs six months is testament to this. On top of this, you have major innovations planned such as staking wallets, VISA cards and a revolutionary collaboration with PoBC. While we have very little understanding of what this entails, if it is what we think it is, it will change the entire alt coin space in a more significant way than PoS did. And these are just the innovations we understand, Web 3.0 and Blockchain 2.0 sound just as groundbreaking. Anyways, to all this dying crap. I can outright tell you this coin won't die. While all the short term investors might sell, long term investors like myself and the investors I am in contact with believe in this project far over any other as an investment decision. We know exacly where its going and exactly what sort of return we will get. To summarise, if we have to spend $3 million and outright buy the majority of the coins in circulation we will. We believe in this project 100%, and most importantly, we believe in the team 100%. Heres a warning for all the short term investors, I'm heading back to London in two weeks and ill be allot more active then. Ill also be sitting down with some very important people once i settle to discuss alternative investment strategies for their personal funds. All im going to say is be very careful. Buy while the price is low. Don't miss the boat. We don't want to build a monopoly on the coins in circulation but unless other people want to bite, we will. These are big fish. And we are most likely not the only big fish examining this space and watching the situation very closely. Ill end on this, how long do you think the competition can stay ahead of us when we innovate faster and better? There will be a day of reckoning, I gaurentee it. Media exposure or not, technology is black and white. Exposure will happen. Ill see you all when we hit 0.01 To the team, keep up the great work guys. Ill be seeing you all in person some time soon. Take care, Michael ^ Bump ^ - this great comment from mike x 3 still stands in my mind. Look forward to hearing from him soon. I was actually thinking about that post today as I was looking at the 90 day charts. I wonder if the "mysterious whale" is someone with the same mindset, keeping the price at just the right level for just the right amount of time to entice and involve larger investors. For the altcoin scene, yeah, we've come quite a way (and quickly at that) but I'd imagine traditional investment firms that focus on technology need a more complete product first. I mean, only in the altcoin world can you make promises only and watch your price surge 40-400% in days, only to watch it whither to nothingness when even the slightest thing goes awry (or for no reason other than whales wanting to dump and take profits). XC just feels like a straight up business that provides products of a business class. Most other coins just reek of dirty laundry, 3 day old pizza, and half-empty bottles of mountain dew, even if there are some decent ideas here and there. I feel like a serious investors with serious money are the ones most likely to take a look at XC, and someone out there other than us knows it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'll take a long period of stability, and then an eventual surge in price over all the other crap that the altcoin scene has to offer.
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August 08, 2014, 10:17:58 PM |
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I was actually thinking about that post today as I was looking at the 90 day charts. I wonder if the "mysterious whale" is someone with the same mindset, keeping the price at just the right level for just the right amount of time to entice and involve larger investors. For the altcoin scene, yeah, we've come quite a way (and quickly at that) but I'd imagine traditional investment firms that focus on technology need a more complete product first. I mean, only in the altcoin world can you make promises only and watch your price surge 40-400% in days, only to watch it whither to nothingness when even the slightest thing goes awry (or for no reason other than whales wanting to dump and take profits). XC just feels like a straight up business that provides products of a business class. Most other coins just reek of dirty laundry, 3 day old pizza, and half-empty bottles of mountain dew, even if there are some decent ideas here and there. I feel like a serious investors with serious money are the ones most likely to take a look at XC, and someone out there other than us knows it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I'll take a long period of stability, and then an eventual surge in price over all the other crap that the altcoin scene has to offer. +1, If I was sober I would have expressed the same sentiment. Maybe with a couple profanities splashed here and there for effect. You hit that bang on sir.
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