[ANN][MAMM] MammothCoin | TRUSTLESS WALLET UPDATED! V.3.1 (Mandatory)

[remistevens]

Maybe this will get through.

Species preservation. How do you Mammothdev know that this is a valid issue worthy of your attention?

Consensus from experts.

You're not a biologist or an environment scientist. You are Batman inside Freddy Kruger's dream. Your own knowledge alone does not prove to you the crisis of species loss. But, because you've heard so many experts and scientists relate the problem, you know it to be real. You trust that its real based on the consensus of experts. Thats what we need from you in regards to your technology. We need a consensus among experts which can only happen when you release the code....or at the very very least consensus among some experts would easily do the trick.

Weird thing is, none of the supercoin people seem to have this problem with the code

I'm not sure thats true. I only see the source code of the non-anon version on their thread. I don't think they've released the supersend code either.

Whats weird to me is the reluctance to release it. Can only be 1 of 2 things:

A) A serious miscalculation in judgement.

B) Tech isn't real so they can't show it.

[finity]

Maybe this will get through.

Species preservation. How do you Mammothdev know that this is a valid issue worthy of your attention?

Consensus from experts.

You're not a biologist or an environment scientist. You are Batman inside Freddy Kruger's dream. Your own knowledge alone does not prove to you the crisis of species loss. But, because you've heard so many experts and scientists relate the problem, you know it to be real. You trust that its real based on the consensus of experts. Thats what we need from you in regards to your technology. We need a consensus among experts which can only happen when you release the code....or at the very very least consensus among some experts would easily do the trick.

Weird thing is, none of the supercoin people seem to have this problem with the code

I'm not sure thats true. I only see the source code of the non-anon version on their thread. I don't think they've released the supersend code either.

Whats weird to me is the reluctance to release it. Can only be 1 of 2 things:

A) A serious miscalculation in judgement.

B) Tech isn't real so they can't show it.

That's what i ment they don't really care the dource is old there

[CryptoJohn]

Maybe this will get through.

Species preservation. How do you Mammothdev know that this is a valid issue worthy of your attention?

Consensus from experts.

You're not a biologist or an environment scientist. You are Batman inside Freddy Kruger's dream. Your own knowledge alone does not prove to you the crisis of species loss. But, because you've heard so many experts and scientists relate the problem, you know it to be real. You trust that its real based on the consensus of experts. Thats what we need from you in regards to your technology. We need a consensus among experts which can only happen when you release the code....or at the very very least consensus among some experts would easily do the trick.

Weird thing is, none of the supercoin people seem to have this problem with the code

I'm not sure thats true. I only see the source code of the non-anon version on their thread. I don't think they've released the supersend code either.

Whats weird to me is the reluctance to release it. Can only be 1 of 2 things:

A) A serious miscalculation in judgement.

B) Tech isn't real so they can't show it.

That's what i ment they don't really care the dource is old there

I hold an even larger amount of Super and although there have been issues the dev is active and has provided solutions.

Mamm & super together have the potential to push all the alts aside with their technology but #1 people need to know about it and #2 someone reputable on the outside has to provide some verification / validation. Then the coins moon.

Quite simple actually... no serious money flowing in...time to change something or wither

[remistevens]

Maybe this will get through.

Species preservation. How do you Mammothdev know that this is a valid issue worthy of your attention?

Consensus from experts.

You're not a biologist or an environment scientist. You are Batman inside Freddy Kruger's dream. Your own knowledge alone does not prove to you the crisis of species loss. But, because you've heard so many experts and scientists relate the problem, you know it to be real. You trust that its real based on the consensus of experts. Thats what we need from you in regards to your technology. We need a consensus among experts which can only happen when you release the code....or at the very very least consensus among some experts would easily do the trick.

Weird thing is, none of the supercoin people seem to have this problem with the code

I'm not sure thats true. I only see the source code of the non-anon version on their thread. I don't think they've released the supersend code either.

Whats weird to me is the reluctance to release it. Can only be 1 of 2 things:

A) A serious miscalculation in judgement.

B) Tech isn't real so they can't show it.

That's what i ment they don't really care the dource is old there

I hold an even larger amount of Super and although there have been issues the dev is active and has provided solutions.

Mamm & super together have the potential to push all the alts aside with their technology but #1 people need to know about it and #2 someone reputable on the outside has to provide some verification / validation. Then the coins moon.

Quite simple actually... no serious money flowing in...time to change something or wither

SOOO TRUE! DEV Please Please consider this! We are all going to lose our investment of time and money if this isn't fixed....Even if you don't want to go public with code. Find a dev or 2 out there that are public and willing to give your code a review. Share it with someone that is public and you trust not to leak it. I would throw tons of MAMM at them for that service, as I'm sure others here would too. . . We need to fix this or we all lose! You're going to miss this incredible opportunity and all your hard work will be in vain.

Think about it. If I'm having trust issues with how you've done your release, consider what newcomers are thinking. I like your coin enough to make a video free of charge and to contribute to your thread almost daily. I'm already one of your biggest fans. If I've got trust issues, its 10X worse for others.

[remistevens]

Guess what... $HAL, just finished their Trustless anonymity. Looks the same as supersend white paper and their code is public

We are your allies Mammothdev! Please listen to us so we can all get rich together!

Many many inventors have received nothing for their brilliance by making the same mistakes you are making now. Its very sad, but its how the world works.

[remistevens]

If you don't release the code, let a couple people somewhere who know what they're doing and are public look at it. I got to know Gatra somewhat, the dev at Riecoin. He wrote a coin that finds prime sextuplets with no centralization (unlike primecoin). It couldn't have been an easy code to write, he knows what hes doing. He's more of a mathematician than a crypto coder. Frequently updates his code publicly.  Very much a supporter of decentralized networks. He's also a family man who works for a living, so he'd probably be happy to get donations just to do a review.

I trust Gatra. If you let him look at your code, I would then trust your code - thats how this works. And there are many other smart devs out there who support decentralization and the philosophy behind cryptos. Fuck the hypesters, we would never need them.

Find a couple very public devs (capable non-hypesters) willing to look at your code. Risk of a leak would be very minimal because if only 1 or 2 people get the code, it would be very obvious they were the culprit if there was a leak. Many devs are successful mostly based on their reputations, they'd never want to sacrifice those reputations by being a leaker or thief.

[remistevens]

If you don't release the code, let a couple people somewhere who know what they're doing and are public look at it. I got to know Gatra somewhat, the dev at Riecoin. He wrote a coin that finds prime sextuplets with no centralization (unlike primecoin). It couldn't have been an easy code to write, he knows what hes doing. He's more of a mathematician than a crypto coder. Frequently updates his code publicly.  Very much a supporter of decentralized networks. He's also a family man who works for a living, so he'd probably be happy to get donations just to do a review.

I trust Gatra. If you let him look at your code, I would then trust your code - thats how this works. And there are many other smart devs out there who support decentralization and the philosophy behind cryptos. Fuck the hypesters, we would never need them.

Find a couple very public devs (capable non-hypesters) willing to look at your code. Risk of a leak would be very minimal because if only 1 or 2 people get the code, it would be very obvious they were the culprit if there was a leak. Many devs are successful mostly based on their reputations, they'd never want to sacrifice those reputations by being a leaker or thief.

Some guy at supercoin is gonna look at it so that should also confirm for us

haha, yea perfect.

[remistevens]

Guess what... $HAL, just finished their Trustless anonymity. Looks the same as supersend white paper and their code is public

Yup. And this explains the market caps, because $HAL's marketing is nothing special. I even had trouble finding them by googling

MAMM = $10k
HAL = $400k


Real tech vs might be real tech - who knows?

[CryptoJohn]

Guess what... $HAL, just finished their Trustless anonymity. Looks the same as supersend white paper and their code is public

Yup. And this explains the market caps, because $HAL's marketing is nothing special. I even had trouble finding them by googling

MAMM = $10k
HAL = $400k


Real tech vs might be real tech - who knows?

I wish Mamm was trading @ 40k sats

[Mammothcoin]

We look for marketing & promo people. Let me know who i can contact to.

[remistevens]

We look for marketing & promo people. Let me know who i can contact to.

What are you offering? Or are you hoping someone will work for no pay and no proof that what they're promoting is real?

Try Elance or Odesk. Lots of great marketing people there.

[Mammothcoin]

We paid 22 different people so far and the last one paid was member Kuriso last week. We keep logs of who got what. Please suggest some people who are willing to support Mammothcoin by promotions and marketing.
Elance, odesk,freelancer is our secondary option but we better need people from this eco system who can really push the project.

[szp]

This list would be good not even for confidency. It will help to plan next promo and not fall to same pitholes of mistake.

[remistevens]

I've got 20000 MAMM for Mammothdev if he releases his phase 2 supersend code completely and someone else who knows what they're talking about verifies that it does what they claim it does. . . . Lets send some bounty where its most due and where its most needed. We need to see the devs work more than anybody else's. Anybody else with me? Maybe a drive to pay Super dev too as I'm sure neither could just do this alone. What do we have to lose?

I really can't see how this is ever going to go somewhere without the code. I'd rather throw some coins at the dev than see my whole stash go to nothing.

Also, we put some more coins in the devs hands, hopefully he can offer more bounties. He did offer me a bounty for my video - I don't suspect anything suspicious around the bounties.

[szp]

On SC part of forum is discussion about code review. Check this out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736705.2920 .
Now we are after wave of scamcoins and people are oversensitive. Even good tech coins can be easly broken by fudsters - people often feel fear toward not proven things. No PoD? No checked code? SCAM?

PoD - good thing and in my opinion person which is revealing himself is shure about tech which is behind. Its better than nothing even if it is a figure for PR and behind him/her sitting bunch of geeks. Coin have "face" and personality.
PoC - proof of code. In my opinion BTC and LTC passed it in best way. Open source hammered from every direction and now all of it living on their own.

In case of SC/MAMM what we have? In beginning was unclear connection MAMM with SC, no information what happened with premine (its looks like all premine sitting in mixer) and no PR person which will be as front line to bring fudsters on chest and made round-kick response. Those lack of information and PR persons leads to overmoderating by deleting and it made quite nervous situation - we feel echo of this even now.
I think that was the main reason why coin volume droped from 100k$ (good start floor) to zombie mode 10k-20k. MAMM now is in ice block and it will be hard to revive it. One good thing dev - you stayed at your iceblock and you didnt go to create new coin like other chinese scamcion rotators.

Remis I will check my wallet and I probably Im able to scrap some coins for this op. I've even idea for collected MAMMs in that way. Dev dont spend them for pizza and xbox/ps4 (whatever you preffer).

1. Check dog-shelters when they are making adoption actions.
2. Talk with them about being part of it and bring some dog/cat food with big sticker on it - Sponsored by MAMM group.
3. Get in touch with food manufacturer and ask them about paying them with MAMM for goods used as giveouts on adoption action. Company can approach to this: "our product will be spread, free marketing for us, they paying us with new tech currency. Even if this currency is crap we have advertisment for our food.". Company can even help and kick their own person to look over whole party. Pure curiosity.
4. Claryfy source of money for "fighting for animal rights". For example 50% of transaction fees are going for charity, money collection on public known address etc.
5. Make some education about cryptocurrency. Just tent in open air action.
6. FIAT/MAMM kiosk? Allow to buy hotdogs, cola etc by using MAMMs?

Other idea:
1. Plush toys for sell and give also some MAMMs as loyality points.
2. Points can be exchanged to other goods (from pet stores) or provided to public known address for action sponsoring (look at points above).
3. People can also sell or buy more of MAMMs. In the beginning just use them as loyality points in petstores.
4. Mobile wallet and payment station would be nice to be seen. In other way how you can make giveouts during open air party?

In my country exist organisation which collecting BTC for donating and they are making pet adoptions. Why not to do the same with better backup and use MAMM instead of BTC?

It would be nice to have android or iOS wallet in lite version. Non annon wallet code is open and in my opinion its good start to make Andriod port. Necessary option - block chain location to avoid phone memory overload (inner memmory or sd). For so such party people dont take whole laptop or pc just to use MAMM.
Mobile, mobile and once again mobile is necessary.

As you see there is ocean of options but sitting in sheel causing more and more problems. Dev I dont believe that you dont have mates which can lead so such action nearby of your city. Maybe you have a problem by being afraid of something which will lead to your personality. This is another problem which causing problem with trusting - no known reason why so hidden. Its government? Superior at work - used resources from workplace? I and others I hope will uderstand so such problem. In that place you need to put something else which will create trust.

Please dev discuss about code review with SC team. I know that isnt easy task and opinions can be divided within group.

[remistevens]

On SC part of forum is discussion about code review. Check this out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736705.2920 .
Now we are after wave of scamcoins and people are oversensitive. Even good tech coins can be easly broken by fudsters - people often feel fear toward not proven things. No PoD? No checked code? SCAM?

PoD - good thing and in my opinion person which is revealing himself is shure about tech which is behind. Its better than nothing even if it is a figure for PR and behind him/her sitting bunch of geeks. Coin have "face" and personality.
PoC - proof of code. In my opinion BTC and LTC passed it in best way. Open source hammered from every direction and now all of it living on their own.

In case of SC/MAMM what we have? In beginning was unclear connection MAMM with SC, no information what happened with premine (its looks like all premine sitting in mixer) and no PR person which will be as front line to bring fudsters on chest and made round-kick response. Those lack of information and PR persons leads to overmoderating by deleting and it made quite nervous situation - we feel echo of this even now.
I think that was the main reason why coin volume droped from 100k$ (good start floor) to zombie mode 10k-20k. MAMM now is in ice block and it will be hard to revive it. One good thing dev - you stayed at your iceblock and you didnt go to create new coin like other chinese scamcion rotators.

Remis I will check my wallet and I probably Im able to scrap some coins for this op. I've even idea for collected MAMMs in that way. Dev dont spend them for pizza and xbox/ps4 (whatever you preffer).

1. Check dog-shelters when they are making adoption actions.
2. Talk with them about being part of it and bring some dog/cat food with big sticker on it - Sponsored by MAMM group.
3. Get in touch with food manufacturer and ask them about paying them with MAMM for goods used as giveouts on adoption action. Company can approach to this: "our product will be spread, free marketing for us, they paying us with new tech currency. Even if this currency is crap we have advertisment for our food.". Company can even help and kick their own person to look over whole party. Pure curiosity.
4. Claryfy source of money for "fighting for animal rights". For example 50% of transaction fees are going for charity, money collection on public known address etc.
5. Make some education about cryptocurrency. Just tent in open air action.
6. FIAT/MAMM kiosk? Allow to buy hotdogs, cola etc by using MAMMs?

Other idea:
1. Plush toys for sell and give also some MAMMs as loyality points.
2. Points can be exchanged to other goods (from pet stores) or provided to public known address for action sponsoring (look at points above).
3. People can also sell or buy more of MAMMs. In the beginning just use them as loyality points in petstores.
4. Mobile wallet and payment station would be nice to be seen. In other way how you can make giveouts during open air party?

In my country exist organisation which collecting BTC for donating and they are making pet adoptions. Why not to do the same with better backup and use MAMM instead of BTC?

It would be nice to have android or iOS wallet in lite version. Non annon wallet code is open and in my opinion its good start to make Andriod port. Necessary option - block chain location to avoid phone memory overload (inner memmory or sd). For so such party people dont take whole laptop or pc just to use MAMM.
Mobile, mobile and once again mobile is necessary.

As you see there is ocean of options but sitting in sheel causing more and more problems. Dev I dont believe that you dont have mates which can lead so such action nearby of your city. Maybe you have a problem by being afraid of something which will lead to your personality. This is another problem which causing problem with trusting - no known reason why so hidden. Its government? Superior at work - used resources from workplace? I and others I hope will uderstand so such problem. In that place you need to put something else which will create trust.

Please dev discuss about code review with SC team. I know that isnt easy task and opinions can be divided within group.

Great post! I agree this isn't a scam, its just mismanaged. I think the dev just loves his baby too much and is afraid to share it with the world. Telltale signs like overhyping, abandoning the project after the collapse and sneaky premine activities just haven't happened here.

I also like your pet adoption suggestions. It may not be about species preservation exactly, but it certainly supports animal rights and needs. Pets are also very popular and its a big market.

I think you're also right that BIG discussions are needed between Super and Mammoth devs. . . . They're standing on a goldmine, but it'll stay buried if they don't act.

[remistevens]

And yes YES! Just like Bitcoin and Litecoin....Every coin doesn't need PoD, but if it doesn't have PoD - PoC is absolutely essential! Open source is the only way a coin with an anonymous dev is ever going to work.

[mrsureka]

And yes YES! Just like Bitcoin and Litecoin....Every coin doesn't need PoD, but if it doesn't have PoD - PoC is absolutely essential! Open source is the only way a coin with an anonymous dev is ever going to work.

These days, POD value so much on Crypto community, it's not old time when community don't think much about POD because so much scamming coin around.

[remistevens]

And yes YES! Just like Bitcoin and Litecoin....Every coin doesn't need PoD, but if it doesn't have PoD - PoC is absolutely essential! Open source is the only way a coin with an anonymous dev is ever going to work.

These days, POD value so much on Crypto community, it's not old time when community don't think much about POD because so much scamming coin around.

Absolutely I agree. But with the tech done and released open source - POD becomes far far less relevant. Dev no longer controls the project - so who cares who they are? It becomes democratic. Anyone could write an update, and if they're popular enough with the community and add something worthwhile, people would download and use their revision instead. It doesn't matter who wrote BTC and LTC, its who's working on it NOW that matters - and they've got lots of notable people on board. They have developers and people trust those developers - thats all that matters.

Its because open source is true decentralization. Nobody has any advantage over anyone else...Open source codes never die completely because someone new can always pick up the reigns even if the price tanks and the dev disappears. As long as the currency remains fairly distributed (fucked up inflation, premines and market trickery aside), its always got a chance of success.

Bottom line. An open source code can't be a scammy code. It is what it is and everyone can see it.

[yurimir]

No shit, I thought you are smarter than this, there's a difference between turst and delivery.. How can you compare XXX to SUPER? Our dev is delivering stuff that no other coin has or dreams at, and you come and compare, LOL. Since when PoD is a must? Who is CryptoAsian? You jump like fags, for a thing that has nothing to do with crypto, invented weeks ago for "security" reasons..

Don't get offended because I talked about another coin who dropped to 7 satoshis, I know they are not the same thing. The dev/team should just be aware that people are not afraid to sell when things get "shady".

And I don't know who is CryptoAsian, I don't care about the guy. It's being able to know that you have a clean/safe dev that is important and his check-ups on devs are useful.

If people were not asking for it and were trusting the dev of SUPER, we wouldn't be talking about it right now. The fact is that the people here would like to know more about the dev and the reliability of SUPER's tech. Don't get mad at them it's normal.

I come from the stock market environment where everything is regulated, every insiders are known, every trades by insiders (CEO/CFO) are made public, etc. Again, I'm not comparing, just telling you that I understand what the community is asking right now.

We're putting our own hard-earned money into this projet, it's normal to ask for some things.

+1000 LMAO