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August 25, 2014, 08:21:46 AM |
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People accusing me of being FUD. LMFAO. Let me tell you the evolution of this shitcoin. The devs will further delay any announcements/progress until the price will reach 5k-10k or something similar and then they will take measures/adjustments. Their silence tells you that they already sold their coins and now are waiting again for a great price and for a great time to release whatever they got. This is a big risk they are taking, because the coin could die even with the release of the new features. Imagine that even the most dumb sheeps will get that it was only a manipulation.
^ This is the optimistic scenario. The other scenario, a more realistic one is that they are done with it. The enthusiasm might faded away, they are stuck on fixing some bugs or more simple than this, they are a bunch of amateurs who managed to successfully design "OneMarket" and that's it. Just a in-wallet design... Can't speak more about that shit anon feature, because is closed source.
WAKE THE FUCK UP and start questioning things. Don't believe in hype and in these cheerleaders who bought at 300k. Of course they will do everything in their power to shut down criticism so they can dump at "reasonable" prices.
http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/Here is the richlist, just take a look at the 1st 20 addresses, the devs are among those and they haven't sold yet. And there goes your not so well constructed thesis about the devs selling their coins.
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August 25, 2014, 08:22:09 AM |
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They promised posa, they released it. They promised cloakpal, they released it. WTF makes you think they won't deliver OneMarket, Ciara... Only reason price failed so much are dumps. Cloak is innovation and innovation will be rewarded. Wait and see
+1 I bought more at 20k and still holding even with the 50% increase since these pass couple days. That is just the start.
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boestin
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August 25, 2014, 08:26:42 AM |
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Fact(s) 1Sorry to say but Cloak is dead, PoSA was allegedly worked on for more than 2 months and in the end after everyone waiting and the devs telling it will be soon and its working along with the private testers saying they were amazed was all for nothing. This is pretty much killed this coin. I sold around 120k right when I saw that image linking cloak to molecule coin, I did my own personal search and didn't like what I found and the amount I had invested I just didn't feel right about cloak after that. I did plan to buy back only if PosA v2 was released, working and open sourced to prove that its real but to be honest I started to realize that there's a high chance its not. I also have suspicion that Bobsurplus was involved in cloak and not just as normal investor like most of us were but part of the cloak team. My guess is that he did the majority of trading and made a shitload of profits in return splitting it with the cloak Devs mainly Alty aka TheDagger thats why their balances in the richlist didn't budge besides it would of been impossible to dump 200-300k worth of cloak without crashing the market in a hour. That's my theory, maybe right maybe wrong, doesn't really matter. Main reason by I sold in the first place and lost trust in Cloak devs was this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=733909.0It wasn't FUD, not going to lie here. I was one of the 3 people in the chat log in that thread created by 2 others that would like to stay anonymous. What bothered the most is why was the server shutdown almost instantly after the appearance of the CMD image showing one of the nodes on testnet being hosting on the same server linked to molecule coin, same IP which is static (confirmed by digital ocean) appeared as a hard coded node in Version coin (V), showing up in shibecoin, molecule...etc. Maybe its just one of the private testers but I was convinced that it was owned by Alty or one of the cloak devs due to the fact the server was shutdown immediately after CMD image was posted here. After I realized that cloak might just be another fake scam crypto I sold cloak. Left the IRC, never posted anything about Cloak in this thread until now. I never trolled and don't have a history of doing so, pretty shocked and disappointed as I did loose trust in all crytpos after this so don't take this as FUD. The truth hurts sometimes but I thought people should know this and stop ignoring it. Not everything is considered FUD.
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boestin
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August 25, 2014, 08:27:33 AM |
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People accusing me of being FUD. LMFAO. Let me tell you the evolution of this shitcoin. The devs will further delay any announcements/progress until the price will reach 5k-10k or something similar and then they will take measures/adjustments. Their silence tells you that they already sold their coins and now are waiting again for a great price and for a great time to release whatever they got. This is a big risk they are taking, because the coin could die even with the release of the new features. Imagine that even the most dumb sheeps will get that it was only a manipulation.
^ This is the optimistic scenario. The other scenario, a more realistic one is that they are done with it. The enthusiasm might faded away, they are stuck on fixing some bugs or more simple than this, they are a bunch of amateurs who managed to successfully design "OneMarket" and that's it. Just a in-wallet design... Can't speak more about that shit anon feature, because is closed source.
WAKE THE FUCK UP and start questioning things. Don't believe in hype and in these cheerleaders who bought at 300k. Of course they will do everything in their power to shut down criticism so they can dump at "reasonable" prices.
http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/Here is the richlist, just take a look at the 1st 20 addresses, the devs are among those and they haven't sold yet. And there goes your not so well constructed thesis about the devs selling their coins. LOL, there are no Devs anymore!
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boestin
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August 25, 2014, 08:28:10 AM |
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Message from Cloaktalk.org:
Hey guys,
I'm not sure where anyone is regarding the Cloak project. The devs aren't in the IRC anymore and alty's vacation was unannounced. It turns out MrGnome was the auditor for the project and he's also no longer with the project. One of the supporting devs spoke to x11joe via Skype and he stated he is not actively contributing to the Cloak project either. We don't know who the main dev is of the project so we don't have contact with him either. I should of made a post here earlier but instead I made one in the IRC.
I've moved over the the Shadow project and removed the donation addresses from the marketing fund. I was one of the main advocates for the Cloak project but the mismanagement of the project has lead to the recent state of project. I can't afford to trust my funds in the hands of project manager anymore, which is why I've moved over to the Shadow project. The project lead there is also the main developer and a lot of the core foundations of Cloak are being realized over there.
The release of the audit results without a fix drew up a red flag for me. In the software industry you never release the preliminary results of a security audit without having a fix ready to implement. To me this shows a disregard for investors and lack of experience in software development.
I'd personally like to thank everyone who helped push Cloak to a top ten coin, however short-lived it was. The community at Cloak is one of the best I've seen to-date in crypto. I'll keep the forums going here for the community, if anyone would like to be a moderator here feel free to PM me. If not maybe we can convert this forum into a general crypto forum and bring the crypto discussion away from the toxic bitcointalk platform.
Best,
TR
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August 25, 2014, 08:49:56 AM |
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@boestin: Your Post-History is very interesting. A few days ago you wrote things like this:
"Price is ready to explode! Get onboard before its too late!!"
"So, where is the proof that the devs left the team? NO PROOF where is the proof that they dumpd coins? NO PROOF"
Now you are wasting a lot of energy to tell the people, PoSA is shit and that the Devs have left. You quote a text that is old etc. What I think is: You dumped and you sold at a loss, right? And now you are scared, that you did it wrong, because the Price is rising. You can`t wait for Alty because you are scared that he could announce News that would make the Price-rise even faster.
Why can`t you just wait and see what Alty will post today? Ah, right... because you are out and you could miss the train.
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August 25, 2014, 08:57:44 AM |
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@boestin: Your Post-History is very interesting. A few days ago you wrote things like this:
"Price is ready to explode! Get onboard before its too late!!"
"So, where is the proof that the devs left the team? NO PROOF where is the proof that they dumpd coins? NO PROOF"
Now you are wasting a lot of energy to tell the people, PoSA is shit and that the Devs have left. You quote a text that is old etc. What I think is: You dumped and you sold at a loss, right? And now you are scared, that you did it wrong, because the Price is rising. You can`t wait for Alty because you are scared that he could announce News that would make the Price-rise even faster.
Why can`t you just wait and see what Alty will post today? Ah, right... because you are out and you could miss the train.
haha, intresting!!!
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August 25, 2014, 09:00:43 AM |
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Message from Cloaktalk.org:
Hey guys,
I'm not sure where anyone is regarding the Cloak project. The devs aren't in the IRC anymore and alty's vacation was unannounced. It turns out MrGnome was the auditor for the project and he's also no longer with the project. One of the supporting devs spoke to x11joe via Skype and he stated he is not actively contributing to the Cloak project either. We don't know who the main dev is of the project so we don't have contact with him either. I should of made a post here earlier but instead I made one in the IRC.
I've moved over the the Shadow project and removed the donation addresses from the marketing fund. I was one of the main advocates for the Cloak project but the mismanagement of the project has lead to the recent state of project. I can't afford to trust my funds in the hands of project manager anymore, which is why I've moved over to the Shadow project. The project lead there is also the main developer and a lot of the core foundations of Cloak are being realized over there.
The release of the audit results without a fix drew up a red flag for me. In the software industry you never release the preliminary results of a security audit without having a fix ready to implement. To me this shows a disregard for investors and lack of experience in software development.
I'd personally like to thank everyone who helped push Cloak to a top ten coin, however short-lived it was. The community at Cloak is one of the best I've seen to-date in crypto. I'll keep the forums going here for the community, if anyone would like to be a moderator here feel free to PM me. If not maybe we can convert this forum into a general crypto forum and bring the crypto discussion away from the toxic bitcointalk platform.
Best,
TR
Proof please
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boestin
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August 25, 2014, 09:02:44 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
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August 25, 2014, 09:06:03 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
YOU ARE bullshit
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August 25, 2014, 09:08:15 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
Oh my, another Mother Teresa...
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August 25, 2014, 09:12:33 AM |
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The next fud comments will be that it is monday right now, and no update from alty yet lol
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August 25, 2014, 09:13:19 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
But you know nothing. You said earlier, that there is no proof that the Devs have left, and it`s still right. You don`t know what Alty will announce today. Maybe you are right and all that still in will end as bagholders. But you could also be very wrong and the current price is very cheap and in just one week it could be 3x higher. You say, that you are no FUDder, but this picture ("We told em... PoSA is shit) is simplest FUD and it is wrong. Because you never said PoSA is shit. Or maybe I`m wrong and you said earlier that PoSA is shit? You simply changed your mind 3 days ago, you sold... and now you are just scared. Take your decision like a man and just wait what Alty has to say today.
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August 25, 2014, 09:14:21 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
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August 25, 2014, 09:15:34 AM |
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Some very bitter people on this forum who just because they tripped at the first hurdle don't want anyone else to finish the race.
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August 25, 2014, 09:16:11 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
My guess his dumped around 20k price before alty has announced an update.... man so sad for you dude! learn to trade faggot...ive made over 70btc off of a 7.5 btc gamble on this.... and guess what! I have been rebuying during this dip as there is still massive potential. Another dumbass trader bites the dust hahahaha!@!!!!!!
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August 25, 2014, 09:17:24 AM |
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But trust me...
you pathetic moron Today is a day of cloaks resurrection ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 25, 2014, 09:20:59 AM |
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Hahaha ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Serious, what will follow if the announcement comes? Yes.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJfeQa29.jpg&t=665&c=j_6UVXBd_wCBGg)
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August 25, 2014, 09:23:23 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
But you know nothing. You said earlier, that there is no proof that the Devs have left, and it`s still right. You don`t know what Alty will announce today. Maybe you are right and all that still in will end as bagholders. But you could also be very wrong and the current price is very cheap and in just one week it could be 3x higher. You say, that you are no FUDder, but this picture ("We told em... PoSA is shit) is simplest FUD and it is wrong. Because you never said PoSA is shit. Or maybe I`m wrong and you said earlier that PoSA is shit? You simply changed your mind 3 days ago, you sold... and now you are just scared. Take your decision like a man and just wait what Alty has to say today. Exactly. All the people that are still posting here after selling all their coins are afraid that they made the wrong decision by selling and are trying to take the coin down with them. They know they are not man enough to handle a rise in price after they got out and so they turn on their former community and become one of the many trolls that caused them to lose money in the first place. For me these people are the scum of the earth, both in crypto and in real life. Truly pethatic and I sincerely hope that Alty will send them crying with his update today.
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August 25, 2014, 09:29:14 AM |
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Yes I have sold at a great loss. Once I was a bagholder too.. But trust me, I won't be buying this shit again m8 Now I will devote my time to protect you bagholders.
But you know nothing. You said earlier, that there is no proof that the Devs have left, and it`s still right. You don`t know what Alty will announce today. Maybe you are right and all that still in will end as bagholders. But you could also be very wrong and the current price is very cheap and in just one week it could be 3x higher. You say, that you are no FUDder, but this picture ("We told em... PoSA is shit) is simplest FUD and it is wrong. Because you never said PoSA is shit. Or maybe I`m wrong and you said earlier that PoSA is shit? You simply changed your mind 3 days ago, you sold... and now you are just scared. Take your decision like a man and just wait what Alty has to say today. Exactly. All the people that are still posting here after selling all their coins are afraid that they made the wrong decision by selling and are trying to take the coin down with them. They know they are not man enough to handle a rise in price after they got out and so they turn on their former community and become one of the many trolls that caused them to lose money in the first place. For me these people are the scum of the earth, both in crypto and in real life. Truly pethatic and I sincerely hope that Alty will send them crying with his update today. exactly well said! and to you boestin no one likes a whining little bitch..be a man and move on. Maybe you could reinvest into silkcoin again or maybe cryptonium? fail investments much?? I cant wait for cloak to rebound so hard I will pm you on how much money I make till your ass bleeds!!!!
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