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December 08, 2015, 04:15:27 AM
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so if they're using a stash of xem to pay for the silver coins, won't they have to sell said xem to pay which then with such large sell vol further lower the price?

in my opinion the order of silvercoins will happen at a moment when NEM is on the rise and that XEM can be easy sold in private deals towards business size investors

no serious dev team would flood own markets





no serious dev team would allow such gaming of the distribution  Shocked
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December 08, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
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There's no gaming of the distribution. We have one of the best if not the best distribution of any project, so I am not sure what the comment refers to.

                
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December 08, 2015, 09:00:29 PM
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There's no gaming of the distribution. We have one of the best if not the best distribution of any project, so I am not sure what the comment refers to.

I dont understand either!
There are hundreds of stakeholders listed as shown on the block explorer earlier, most of them only holding one stake each.

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December 08, 2015, 10:00:42 PM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.
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December 08, 2015, 11:52:20 PM
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There's no gaming of the distribution. We have one of the best if not the best distribution of any project, so I am not sure what the comment refers to.

yes tis a river in egypt, one famous example utopianfuture (which alone should make it impossible for nem to recover from).
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December 09, 2015, 12:26:07 AM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

Game is just not over yet. Sit tight and watch the next moves. Like a game of chess, it ain't over yet until the player resigns or there is a checkmate. And like chess again, spectators will call it game over without ever considering what's in the mind of the player to counter his opponent.
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December 09, 2015, 01:15:39 AM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

don't watch on xem price. watch on nem tech and on new consensus poi Smiley
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December 09, 2015, 03:33:54 AM
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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

On the contrary, the boom is imminent. We are at the beginning phase of Blockchain technology.



Blue - successive groups of banks/companies/consumers adopting blockchain tech.
Yellow - market share will eventually reach a saturation level.





* http://www.juniperresearch.com/press/press-releases/bitcoin-users-to-approach-5-million-by-2019
According to Juniper the BTC forecast is a little cloudy.

My forecast for NEM: Warming trend and clear skies through 2016.  Grin

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December 09, 2015, 08:56:10 AM
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don't watch on xem price. watch on nem tech and on new consensus poi Smiley

i disaggree
watch the price
because noone is limited with just the initial share
and noone who wasnt part of initial distribution is left behind

we are in a small timewindow where multiple effect:

no new stuff launched from NEM (just on testnet)

rise of BTC price

general downwards trend in altcoin prices

lead to a great opportunity to increase or start to gather a share of NEM by buy XEM

and never forget this is a zero inflation coin

what u able get now in ur hands will forever stay the same share of total existing coins

its absolutly possible to get hands on like 0.1% of total coins

think how much value that would be if u have 0.1% of total existing BTC

yes thats over 6 million $

this timewindow will close get in cheap (or increaed ur NEM part of cryptoportfolio) as long as this bargain opportunity lasts

new stuff is be released soon

they gather business and industry connections left and right

and companies based their business on top of NEM chain are already in work

 
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December 09, 2015, 11:15:11 AM
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don't watch on xem price. watch on nem tech and on new consensus poi Smiley

i disaggree
watch the price
because noone is limited with just the initial share
and noone who wasnt part of initial distribution is left behind

we are in a small timewindow where multiple effect:

no new stuff launched from NEM (just on testnet)

rise of BTC price

general downwards trend in altcoin prices

lead to a great opportunity to increase or start to gather a share of NEM by buy XEM

and never forget this is a zero inflation coin

what u able get now in ur hands will forever stay the same share of total existing coins

its absolutly possible to get hands on like 0.1% of total coins

think how much value that would be if u have 0.1% of total existing BTC

yes thats over 6 million $

this timewindow will close get in cheap (or increaed ur NEM part of cryptoportfolio) as long as this bargain opportunity lasts

new stuff is be released soon

they gather business and industry connections left and right

and companies based their business on top of NEM chain are already in work


Correct. The world will change soon. You are in or out forever.
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December 09, 2015, 01:25:10 PM
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don't watch on xem price. watch on nem tech and on new consensus poi Smiley

i disaggree
watch the price
because noone is limited with just the initial share
and noone who wasnt part of initial distribution is left behind

we are in a small timewindow where multiple effect:

no new stuff launched from NEM (just on testnet)

rise of BTC price

general downwards trend in altcoin prices

lead to a great opportunity to increase or start to gather a share of NEM by buy XEM

and never forget this is a zero inflation coin

what u able get now in ur hands will forever stay the same share of total existing coins

its absolutly possible to get hands on like 0.1% of total coins

think how much value that would be if u have 0.1% of total existing BTC

yes thats over 6 million $

this timewindow will close get in cheap (or increaed ur NEM part of cryptoportfolio) as long as this bargain opportunity lasts

new stuff is be released soon

they gather business and industry connections left and right

and companies based their business on top of NEM chain are already in work
when btc price was 220 usd xem price there were 60 sats. now btc price 420 usd and xem price 30 sats. if btc price go to 1000 usd and more, xem price will 15 - 10 sats. if btc price more 10000 usd, xem price will 1 sat.

why they sell every time xem when we see raise btc? because xem in itself doesn't raise. xem doesn't move neither up nor down. therefore price xem is rigidly attached to btc price. from here also we see when raise btc begins that xem starts going down in price surely.
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Correct. The world will change soon. You are in or out forever.



 
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when btc price was 220 usd xem price there were 60 sats. now btc price 420 usd and xem price 30 sats. if btc price go to 1000 usd and more, xem price will 15 - 10 sats. if btc price more 10000 usd, xem price will 1 sat.

lol  Grin

what mathematical genius we have here with us

and the earth is a disc

even u will realize some day bitcoin is not the center of the universe

 
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when btc price was 220 usd xem price there were 60 sats. now btc price 420 usd and xem price 30 sats. if btc price go to 1000 usd and more, xem price will 15 - 10 sats. if btc price more 10000 usd, xem price will 1 sat.

lol  Grin

what mathematical genius we have here with us

and the earth is a disc

even u will realize some day bitcoin is not the center of the universe

we need fiat pairs. xem/usd, xem/jpy, xem/cny. btc/xem, ltc/xem, eth/xem. more and more pairs with xem. only this way, building new exchanges and xem markets there can be new center of the universe. but you don't build it. any exchange it isn't constructed yet where all cryptocurrencies would cost in pair xxx/xem. build new exchanges on basis cryptocurrency xem and only then there is a chance to eclipse btc and to show to world of new center of the universe xem.
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December 09, 2015, 03:08:27 PM
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when btc price was 220 usd xem price there were 60 sats. now btc price 420 usd and xem price 30 sats. if btc price go to 1000 usd and more, xem price will 15 - 10 sats. if btc price more 10000 usd, xem price will 1 sat.

lol  Grin

what mathematical genius we have here with us

and the earth is a disc

even u will realize some day bitcoin is not the center of the universe

we need fiat pairs. xem/usd, xem/jpy, xem/cny. btc/xem, ltc/xem, eth/xem. more and more pairs with xem. only this way, building new exchanges and xem markets there can be new center of the universe. but you don't build it. any exchange it isn't constructed yet where all cryptocurrencies would cost in pair xxx/xem. build new exchanges on basis cryptocurrency xem and only then there is a chance to eclipse btc and to show to world of new center of the universe xem.

Actually overlapping the Bitcoin chart and the NEM chart, one can see the prices are not correlated at all. 

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December 09, 2015, 03:09:52 PM
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Very interesting tutorials by one of the NEM devs on how to build on NEM.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-development-101-episode-01/1656

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-development-101-episode-02/1665/1

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December 09, 2015, 03:12:24 PM
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On the contrary, the boom is imminent. We are at the beginning phase of Blockchain technology.



Blue - successive groups of banks/companies/consumers adopting blockchain tech.
Yellow - market share will eventually reach a saturation level.


I agree.  Blockchain technology is just starting to gain attention and is barely started to gain traction.  Plus it is disruptive a very entrenched system that is very resistant to change and so it hasn't, yet pretty much everything else has around it, so its time.

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NEM did have the best distribution of any Alt IPO. Unfortunately, I just don't see the Alt market going anywhere. Everyone is looking at Bitcoin and features like Rootstock will make many Alts useless. A business isn't going to integrate with an Alt when they can integrate with the largest Blockchain ecosystem (Bitcoin).  Right now, companies don't even know what to do with Blockchain, by the time they do, Bitcoin will have the features ready. Most people won't have the stomach for Alts beyond speculation. The only Alts that will survive (in my opinion) will be those that can directly interact with Bitcoin.  It sucks, but the Alt coin boom is over and dead.

don't watch on xem price. watch on nem tech and on new consensus poi Smiley

I've been watching several Alt's release very innovative tech (Nxt for example) but the price is stagnant. I agree we are at the early stages of a blockchain boom, but the way blockchain and Bitcoin is designed, companies won't have to look for an alternative to Bitcoin because of price or space or whatever.  Bitcoin will dominate, anything pegged to Bitcoin will see adoption for specific use cases, but independent Blockchains will die, just like intranets died. Look at new projects like IOTA, they are making interaction with other Blockchains a priority, because they see the writing on the wall from the last year.  You can sit here all day and say NEM, Nxt, or whatever is going to the moon, but sadly it's not true, be realistic and ask yourself why someone would transact with NEM over Bitcoin, ETH, Nxt, etc.
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First you said "...but independent Blockchains will die..." (maybe true and makes sense), than you said: "... ask yourself why someone would transact with NEM over Bitcoin, ETH, Nxt, etc...." (means eth, nxt, ETC !? is better than NEM? That´s  nonsense, because i ask myself why eth, nxt and etc are better than nem? Especially in this stage of development).  Or do I understand something wrong?

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First you said "...but independent Blockchains will die..." (maybe true and makes sense), than you said: "... ask yourself why someone would transact with NEM over Bitcoin, ETH, Nxt, etc...." (means eth, nxt, ETC !? is better than NEM? That´s  nonsense, because i ask myself why eth, nxt and etc are better than nem? Especially in this stage of development).  Or do I understand something wrong?

yes. he tries to tell us that we need to attach blockchain nem to blockchain btc. but we have much more the best blockchain than at btc therefore i wouldn't begin to attach on a place of devs blockchain nem to blockchain btc even if it is possible. i think that it's possible, but we it don't need to pull on ourselves a network which in future will die and us for itself will pull in a grave.
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