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August 27, 2012, 01:24:48 AM
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I can not understand why man could sell the bonds at 0.0001, OMG

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Coupon payment summary for August 2012 (total 0.014924034 BTC per bond):
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Block number Timestamp        Timestamp (Unix) Elapsed time Difficulty Block reward Coupon    Bonds Total      Status
196559    Aug 31 2012 15:32:28  1346427148          193066    2440642.60692 50        0.0009208985 16000 14.7343760 Paid
196223    Aug 29 2012 09:54:42  1346234082          192302    2440642.60692 50        0.0009172543 16000 14.6760688 Paid
195887    Aug 27 2012 04:29:40  1346041780          183114    2440642.60692 50        0.0008734288 16000 13.9748608 Paid
195551    Aug 25 2012 01:37:46  1345858666          184893    2190865.97010 50        0.0009824598 16000 15.7193568 Paid
195215    Aug 22 2012 22:16:13  1345673773          173279    2190865.97010 50        0.0009207469 16000 14.7319504 Paid
194879    Aug 20 2012 22:08:14  1345500494          165382    2190865.97010 50        0.0008787849 16000 14.0605584 Paid
194543    Aug 19 2012 00:11:52  1345335112          198727    2190865.97010 50        0.0010559691 16000 16.8955056 Paid
194207    Aug 16 2012 16:59:45  1345136385          178313    2190865.97010 50        0.0009474959 16000 15.1599344 Paid
193871    Aug 14 2012 15:27:52  1344958072          186026    2190865.97010 50        0.0009884802 16000 15.8156832 Paid
193535    Aug 12 2012 11:47:26  1344772046          175491    2036671.08869 50        0.0010030997 16000 16.0495952 Paid
193199    Aug 10 2012 11:02:35  1344596555          174221    2036671.08869 50        0.0009958404 16000 15.9334464 Paid
192863    Aug 08 2012 10:38:54  1344422334          192530    2036671.08869 50        0.0011004939 16000 17.6079024 Paid
192527    Aug 06 2012 05:10:04  1344229804          196130    2036671.08869 50        0.0011210714 16000 17.9371424 Paid
192191    Aug 03 2012 22:41:14  1344033674          182018    2036671.08869 50        0.0010404078 16000 16.6465248 Paid
191855    Aug 01 2012 20:07:36  1343851656          206020    2036671.08869 50        0.0011776023 20000 23.5520460 Paid

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September 13, 2012, 04:08:48 PM
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Coupons due while I'm in London will wait to be paid until I return on Wednesday.

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October 03, 2012, 04:01:02 PM
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Coupon payment summary for September 2012 (total 0.011225321 BTC per bond):
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Block number Timestamp        Timestamp (Unix) Elapsed time Difficulty Block reward Coupon    Bonds Total      Status
201263    Sep 30 2012 17:17:37  1349025457          182212    2864140.50781 50        0.0007406155 16000 11.8498480 Paid
200927    Sep 28 2012 14:40:45  1348843245          187715    2864140.50781 50        0.0007629829 16000 12.2077264 Paid
200591    Sep 26 2012 10:32:10  1348655530          194988    2864140.50781 50        0.0007925446 16000 12.6807136 Paid
200255    Sep 24 2012 04:22:22  1348460542          187875    2864140.50781 50        0.0007636332 16000 12.2181312 Paid
199919    Sep 22 2012 00:11:07  1348272667          179862    2864140.50781 50        0.0007310637 16000 11.6970192 Paid
199583    Sep 19 2012 22:13:25  1348092805          189228    2694047.95296 50        0.0008176929 16000 13.0830864 Paid
199247    Sep 17 2012 17:39:37  1347903577          178699    2694047.95296 50        0.0007721949 16000 12.3551184 Paid
198911    Sep 15 2012 16:01:18  1347724878          190737    2694047.95296 50        0.0008242136 16000 13.1874176 Paid
198575    Sep 13 2012 11:02:21  1347534141          202877    2694047.95296 50        0.0008766730 16000 14.0267680 Paid
198239    Sep 11 2012 02:41:04  1347331264          191343    2694047.95296 50        0.0008268322 16000 13.2293152 Paid
197903    Sep 08 2012 21:32:01  1347139921          184897    2694047.95296 50        0.0007989778 16000 12.7836448 Paid
197567    Sep 06 2012 18:10:24  1346955024          158365    2440642.60692 50        0.0007553794 16000 12.0860704 Paid
197231    Sep 04 2012 22:10:59  1346796659          186709    2440642.60692 50        0.0008905765 16000 14.2492240 Paid
196895    Sep 02 2012 18:19:10  1346609950          182802    2440642.60692 50        0.0008719406 16000 13.9510496 Paid

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October 06, 2012, 01:28:43 PM
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ok since no one else has said anything yet since glbse is close what happens to all our shares that we owned?

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October 06, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
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ok since no one else has said anything yet since glbse is close what happens to all our shares that we owned?
The first step will be to compile a list of asset holders (identified by payment address) and corresponding amount of PureMining bonds. I hope Nefario cooperates in generating such a list, but just in case:

If you have any PureMining bonds, please send an email to  glbse at menirosenfeld dot com  specifying the amount of bonds you had and a payment address (and preferably, some other details). If no information comes from Nefario and the claims are consistent, I'll consider going by the claims. Otherwise we'll figure something out (donation to charity is a possibility).

The second step will be to find an appropriate technical means to distribute coupons as normal until an eventual buyback. The buyback terms will of course have to be modified since there is no longer trading on GLBSE (probably making use of the extrapolated lifetime earnings).

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October 07, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
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I don't have that much luxury to donate coins to charity. May be for others, its just some coins, for me its life.

Hope Nefario won't scam every one.

I had my history downloaded last week from GLBSE as csv, but deleted.
Trying to recover it.

@Meni Rosenfeld, may be you can donate me some, coz you like donating very much & donated to this forum.
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October 08, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
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I don't have that much luxury to donate coins to charity. May be for others, its just some coins, for me its life.
Forced donation will be a last resort if there is no way to figure out who the bondholders are.

If you manage to recover your csv and determine exactly how many bonds you hold, it will be a good start.

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October 08, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
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Also you should also consider keeping your operation going, I spent weeks trying to figure out what bonds I wanted to invest in a while back and would love to keep business with you.

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October 08, 2012, 08:07:26 PM
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Also you should also consider keeping your operation going, I spent weeks trying to figure out what bonds I wanted to invest in a while back and would love to keep business with you.
Thanks. In a few months I'll see if it makes sense to issue more bonds.

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October 09, 2012, 12:46:05 AM
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ok since no one else has said anything yet since glbse is close what happens to all our shares that we owned?
The first step will be to compile a list of asset holders (identified by payment address) and corresponding amount of PureMining bonds. I hope Nefario cooperates in generating such a list, but just in case:

If you have any PureMining bonds, please send an email to  glbse at menirosenfeld dot com  specifying the amount of bonds you had and a payment address (and preferably, some other details). If no information comes from Nefario and the claims are consistent, I'll consider going by the claims. Otherwise we'll figure something out (donation to charity is a possibility).

The second step will be to find an appropriate technical means to distribute coupons as normal until an eventual buyback. The buyback terms will of course have to be modified since there is no longer trading on GLBSE (probably making use of the extrapolated lifetime earnings).

Info has been sent sir.

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October 10, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
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ok since no one else has said anything yet since glbse is close what happens to all our shares that we owned?
The first step will be to compile a list of asset holders (identified by payment address) and corresponding amount of PureMining bonds. I hope Nefario cooperates in generating such a list, but just in case:

If you have any PureMining bonds, please send an email to  glbse at menirosenfeld dot com  specifying the amount of bonds you had and a payment address (and preferably, some other details). If no information comes from Nefario and the claims are consistent, I'll consider going by the claims. Otherwise we'll figure something out (donation to charity is a possibility).

The second step will be to find an appropriate technical means to distribute coupons as normal until an eventual buyback. The buyback terms will of course have to be modified since there is no longer trading on GLBSE (probably making use of the extrapolated lifetime earnings).

I've also sent my information as mentioned above.

I'll cross-post Nefario's thread here because the discussion is now focusing on aspects that concern asset issuers as well as holders.
Your views are most welcome:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1262096#msg1262096
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October 11, 2012, 08:57:25 AM
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It seems there is now a claim form on https://glbse.com/. Please file a claim there. Since we do not yet know what will happen with the information submitted, it may be a good idea to independently send me a claim as described above (by sending email to glbse at menirosenfeld dot com with information of GLBSE username, amount of bonds held and withdrawal address, as well as any other relevant details).

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Bumping to remind people to file claims.

For reference, I've talked a bit with Nefario but haven't yet received any data, or my own coins.

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October 17, 2012, 05:37:57 AM
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I have personally sent my claims to you, thx.

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I guess there still is no news from GLBSE for you either?

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October 25, 2012, 05:56:26 AM
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I guess there still is no news from GLBSE for you either?

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I think we need to start preparing for the very real possibility that I may not be getting the data from GLBSE. So:

1. If you haven't sent a claim to me yet, now is the time.

2. I propose that if nothing happens within ~2 weeks, I will start paying out accumulated and future coupons according to the information I currently have. Payments for unclaimed bonds will go towards a reserve fund, which will be used either to partially compensate missing bondholders when the data is obtained, or eventually donated to an agreed-upon charity.

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...... For reference, I've talked a bit with Nefario but haven't yet received any data, or my own coins.

I think we need to start preparing for the very real possibility that I may not be getting the data from GLBSE...

Did you at least get your own coins?

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...... For reference, I've talked a bit with Nefario but haven't yet received any data, or my own coins.

I think we need to start preparing for the very real possibility that I may not be getting the data from GLBSE...

Did you at least get your own coins?
No. I had a hunch I shouldn't be keeping too many bitcoins there, so I withdrew most but had about 100 remaining. With the double payment thing I doubt I'll be getting them - just another one in a long list of recent losses I've had.

I think we need to start preparing for the very real possibility that I may not be getting the data from GLBSE. So:
Is there any material information that leads you to that conclusion ?
Not really, other than the length of time this has dragged on and Nefario not responding to my last mail.

Since I'm not making a full buyback currently the damage of making some payments with incomplete data is limited, and as mentioned I'm giving more time until doing even that. But if people prefer that I wait even longer I'm fine with that.

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