Videlicet
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September 26, 2015, 07:57:59 PM |
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Part of the LLP integration Todo. Thank You,Viz.
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[ Nexus] Created by Viz. [ Videlicet] : "videre licet - it may be seen; evidently; clearly"
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Namsbreh
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September 28, 2015, 08:07:36 AM |
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Waiting patiently for next update with increased trust key expiration time. I'm not wasting my time/power staking Niro again until the expiration time is extend as promised, that really annoyed me when my key reset after a months continuous staking.
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calem
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September 28, 2015, 08:13:33 AM |
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Waiting patiently for next update with increased trust key expiration time. I'm not wasting my time/power staking Niro again until the expiration time is extend as promised, that really annoyed me when my key reset after a months continuous staking.
Trust is something one earns. But yes, the increase is a good idea. With that said though, anything more then 1 week will leave it open to exploitation in my opinion.
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Conqueror
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I was diagnosed with brain parasite
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September 28, 2015, 08:34:02 AM |
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Waiting patiently for next update with increased trust key expiration time. I'm not wasting my time/power staking Niro again until the expiration time is extend as promised, that really annoyed me when my key reset after a months continuous staking.
What you mean by trust expiration time? I hold my wallet open nonstop so I can reach 3% interest rate after 1 year as said in specification. Or is this not like that? There is some more staking info in wallet, can anybody explain to me what that means please:) Interest rate - i know what that is Stake weight - ? Trust weight - ? Block weight - ?
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calem
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September 28, 2015, 08:42:36 AM |
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What you mean by trust expiration time?
Current expiration timeout is 24 hours. If you stop staking for 24 hours, you will have to start again. It is a hassle if your internet connection is disrupted for 24 hours or if you forget to restart staking if your wallet is closed or you must reboot the computer. It was a community requested change and is a good one. Also, if you stake for 1 year without timeout, the update will allow you to reach up to 5% instead of the current maximum interest.
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 28, 2015, 04:26:00 PM |
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Strange how?
Maybe because of it's closed source? Anyone know the ETA for open-sourcing Nexus core?
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merc84
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September 28, 2015, 10:51:58 PM |
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Strange how?
Maybe because of it's closed source? Anyone know the ETA for open-sourcing Nexus core? Viz?
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AliMan
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September 29, 2015, 12:22:22 AM |
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That would probably be the last thing, I mean we're yet to have the next update.
I don't think it should be done in a hurry. Everything in good time.
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 29, 2015, 12:36:49 AM |
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That would probably be the last thing, I mean we're yet to have the next update.
I don't think it should be done in a hurry. Everything in good time.
That usually means never. Seen it before. Core development stays centralized. Eventually, dev gets paranoid that he will lose control of project if someone forks the code. Who cares if someone forks the code? That is the best thing possible because it means someone will test the code with different parameters. Now Viz is talking about patenting his codebase. What would Satoshi think about that?
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calem
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September 29, 2015, 12:56:49 AM |
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I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Normally I wouldn't touch closed source with a 10 foot³ Faraday cage but in this case, some things are worth keeping a secret. He has a very specific goal in mind here and by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
I predicted the birth of Corp Coins back in 2013, well before the likes of Paycoin etc.
Nexus Niro Is not quite a Corp Coin in the classic sense and I think, provided he stays true to his word in regards to opening the source upon completion of the basic features planned, the Nexus network will be something that will take on a life of its own, without hindrance.
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 29, 2015, 01:07:12 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it.
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calem
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September 29, 2015, 01:31:42 AM |
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Say what you like but we are all aware of the status quo for open/closed source projects in the crypto sphere.
Please don't think I'm been rude but if you don't like Nexus Niro, find another project that suits your ethics.
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AliMan
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September 29, 2015, 01:35:35 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move.
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 29, 2015, 01:49:15 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see.
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pdogg147
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September 29, 2015, 02:11:32 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see. You are certainly free to have that opinion about open versus closed source and the debate is welcome. However, for you to attack Viz and call him corrupt is really uncalled for and quite ridiculous. It sounds self-serving to me as though you have a hidden agenda.
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calem
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September 29, 2015, 02:13:07 AM |
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I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see.
That is completely understandable. There's a 1000 something projects out there that are open source. Maybe your efforts might be better spent elsewhere I suppose. I heard Bitcoin is doing well for itself at the moment.
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"Suppressing bad ideas can be as dangerous as the bad ideas themselves." | One of the greatest ethical and logistical challenges humanity has been forced to face is one that has not changed since the dawn of society itself. The fair and even distribution of wealth and power. Using the Diffusion of Innovations to model a more sensible inflation schedule, [x0z] Zerozed aims to bring stability to the wider market...
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 29, 2015, 02:44:52 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see. You are certainly free to have that opinion about open versus closed source and the debate is welcome. However, for you to attack Viz and call him corrupt is really uncalled for and quite ridiculous. It sounds self-serving to me as though you have a hidden agenda. I'm pretty sure he would agree with me that he has been corrupted long ago by his own desires to control the direction of the project and the codebase. This project was going to be open-sourced at 1.0.3, but the can continues to get kicked down the road. It wasn't until I read that he is looking to patent the codebase that I realized this project will never be a community project whatsoever. Viz can literally fork the blockchain at any moment since everyone is running his binaries and/or give himself as many coins as he wants by a simple line of code in the source that nobody knows about. Oh, but Niro supposedly fixes all of Bitcoin's problems -- including that silly blockchain trust and open-source problem.
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pdogg147
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September 29, 2015, 03:10:24 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see. You are certainly free to have that opinion about open versus closed source and the debate is welcome. However, for you to attack Viz and call him corrupt is really uncalled for and quite ridiculous. It sounds self-serving to me as though you have a hidden agenda. I'm pretty sure he would agree with me that he has been corrupted long ago by his own desires to control the direction of the project and the codebase. This project was going to be open-sourced at 1.0.3, but the can continues to get kicked down the road. It wasn't until I read that he is looking to patent the codebase that I realized this project will never be a community project whatsoever. Viz can literally fork the blockchain at any moment since everyone is running his binaries and/or give himself as many coins as he wants by a simple line of code in the source that nobody knows about. Oh, but Niro supposedly fixes all of Bitcoin's problems -- including that silly blockchain trust and open-source problem. Well considering he started the platform, I suppose he can do what he feels necessary to bring his vision to fruition. Sure, I understand the risks of closed source and your concerns, but I'm not concerned here at all. I see many good reasons to patent certain aspects of blockchain technology. I guarantee that IBM will be patenting its platform. Why hand them and others like them the keys to the kingdom?
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BitcoinSanDiego
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September 29, 2015, 03:20:22 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see. You are certainly free to have that opinion about open versus closed source and the debate is welcome. However, for you to attack Viz and call him corrupt is really uncalled for and quite ridiculous. It sounds self-serving to me as though you have a hidden agenda. I'm pretty sure he would agree with me that he has been corrupted long ago by his own desires to control the direction of the project and the codebase. This project was going to be open-sourced at 1.0.3, but the can continues to get kicked down the road. It wasn't until I read that he is looking to patent the codebase that I realized this project will never be a community project whatsoever. Viz can literally fork the blockchain at any moment since everyone is running his binaries and/or give himself as many coins as he wants by a simple line of code in the source that nobody knows about. Oh, but Niro supposedly fixes all of Bitcoin's problems -- including that silly blockchain trust and open-source problem. Well considering he started the platform, I suppose he can do what he feels necessary to bring his vision to fruition. Sure, I understand the risks of closed source and your concerns, but I'm not concerned here at all. I see many good reasons to patent certain aspects of blockchain technology. I guarantee that IBM will be patenting its platform. Why hand them and others like them the keys to the kingdom? Yes, he can do whatever he wants but that doesn't mean being a cheerleader and following blindly without criticizing him is good for the project. In fact, criticism and disagreements about the direction of projects is essential to success. Many corporations and centralized structures become inefficient and uncompetitive because they disregard the criticisms of their supporters and employees. Calling people out when they renege on their multiple promises to open-source is important and I think Viz would agree with me here that he has been disorganized and likely working inefficiently due to the centralized control of Coinshield/Nexus.
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pdogg147
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September 29, 2015, 03:30:30 AM |
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...by open sourcing the project before its completion would open the doors to a million scam clones.
This will be the excuse for years to come. In case you haven't noticed, people are forking Ethereum and soon Ripple. People are trying different parameters. Do you know what the reality is? Those scam clones lose steam after about 30 days. Buy support disappears. They can't maintain the veneer of community or the lies of "development". It is ironic that this community is afraid of the one thing that would set this project free. Don't sit here and try to defend closed-source code for a public blockchain anymore, it's bullshit and you all know it. Why don't you try writing/creating something equivalent or better to Niro, spend a year on it, and launch everything in one day. Not really the best move. Satoshi open-sourced Bitcoin 8 days after the genesis block was created. Open-sourcing the code is as simple as uploading the code to Github. I don't see your point because you are trying to divert the discussion from being about open-source to putting Viz on a pedestal. Viz is not a God he is just a human being that has become corrupted by his own desire to control a project that most of the original community have left due to the centralized control of the project. Now he is talking about patenting the code-base. That is antithetical to open-source. I for one will not contribute anything to this project until the code is open-sourced so I can see if it is malicious or not, or full of bugs. I will not take anyone else's word for it - that's the whole point of this revolution, we don't need to trust or have faith in anyone because the code is there for us to see. You are certainly free to have that opinion about open versus closed source and the debate is welcome. However, for you to attack Viz and call him corrupt is really uncalled for and quite ridiculous. It sounds self-serving to me as though you have a hidden agenda. I'm pretty sure he would agree with me that he has been corrupted long ago by his own desires to control the direction of the project and the codebase. This project was going to be open-sourced at 1.0.3, but the can continues to get kicked down the road. It wasn't until I read that he is looking to patent the codebase that I realized this project will never be a community project whatsoever. Viz can literally fork the blockchain at any moment since everyone is running his binaries and/or give himself as many coins as he wants by a simple line of code in the source that nobody knows about. Oh, but Niro supposedly fixes all of Bitcoin's problems -- including that silly blockchain trust and open-source problem. Well considering he started the platform, I suppose he can do what he feels necessary to bring his vision to fruition. Sure, I understand the risks of closed source and your concerns, but I'm not concerned here at all. I see many good reasons to patent certain aspects of blockchain technology. I guarantee that IBM will be patenting its platform. Why hand them and others like them the keys to the kingdom? Yes, he can do whatever he wants but that doesn't mean being a cheerleader and following blindly without criticizing him is good for the project. In fact, criticism and disagreements about the direction of projects is essential to success. Many corporations and centralized structures become inefficient and uncompetitive because they disregard the criticisms of their supporters and employees. Calling people out when they renege on their multiple promises to open-source is important and I think Viz would agree with me here that he has been disorganized and likely working inefficiently due to the centralized control of Coinshield/Nexus. Never said it was a bad thing. In fact I said the debate was welcome. It was your use of the word "corrupt" to describe Viz that I disagree with. That's a personal attack. Not a debate.
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