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[pawel7777]

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The site now averages 20 players, which was about 40 a month back, and over 60  around 6 weeks back. Its pretty obvious with whats happening.

Higher traffic was due to the sig campaign. Before sig campaign traffic was similar to current level iirc

Surely, the traffic would be a bit higher if BAC was on-board

[uvwvj]

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[dogedice.me]

Would he redirect if they did not pay him?

Would you pay me anything at all to redirect any useless domain I paid a few bucks for? He isn't even generating affiliates now, just redirecting because he was allegedly duped out of a few cents.

I removed his affiliate because he setup a page that warned people not to play at PRC and claimed I was not trustworthy and redirected to a competitors site. He also marked this btctalk account with negative trust. I don't know how anyone can think he should still have affiliate pay for that.

If it's true that Bitdice.me are renting that then:
1)They are wasting their money as PRC will be re-branded soon (when v2 is launched) and no marketing will be done for any PRC domain.

2)It's pretty scummy and doesn't seem like a trustworthy site if they are willing to directly mislead customers like that. Bay also offered it to Stunna and other dice owners who all said no.

Dean, I always tried to be polite and never said anything bad against any of the site owners as we all in the same boat. Thus if you don't like something, don't call it scam.

I did it because I know BAC, it was fun to chat with him. When I got back from vac, I've ben told new "big" news as Dooglus and BAC left you huge red warning. It's good to see you've sorted it out. I tried to help BAC and don't care about 1BTC I gave him as I think people shall be rewared for good things. I know he will help me someday with promotion in exchange for this if I ask him.

And yes, I used that situation as promo ( not for traffic ), but it is you who made it possible. If it's such a shame I can ask BAC to remove it.

[wayshegoes]

Was? Nothing has changed, and PRC is still going after nearly 20 months. Feel free to try your luck on dicebitco.in, dice.ninja, bikiniscam or any of the other brand new dice sites run by people with "Newbie" accounts. A really smart way to use your BTC.

dicebitcoin is a scam!

Maybe your a scammer yourself!

It's like you can't even read. The guy I was responding to is calling PRC a scam but at the same time thinks it's okay to try and get more people to use dice.ninja (a known scam). How many people in this thread right now are just sock puppet accounts trying to scam more people? I count at least 2.

Lol at "espringe". Nice that your site was bankrolled with stolen money, I'm sure Dean will really appreciate your sound advice.

God forbid the only honest operator out there with experience will continue legitimately running a casino. It seems like people prefer drama than facts and gambling.

[KingOfSports]

There have been 2-3 examples of how Dean is untrustworthy.

1) Dooglus, he asked for his help finding a bug, and when he found said bug he didn't even give anything as a nice gesture. Who was at risk here? Dean and the investors. Dooglus should get a reward of some kind, not sure on the amount but the fact that not even $1 was offered in compensation and acts like it absurd to pay someone for finding his mistake is the first reason.

2) Bayareacoins said his opinion of the owner. He said he was on Dooglus's side and owned a website that he used to spread his rights of free speech. This is the internet. However, Bayarea had referred many users and investors to PRC and because of an unrelated issue Dean decides to cancel his affiliate account and payments. In the real world, this would immediately result in a lawsuit. You can't retract out of business with someone once things have been agreed upon (the affiliate rate and prize for bringing in customers) just because you've pissed people off including the person doing business with. Thats like saying a shark on the famous show Shark Tank buys 10% of the company and then believes a marketing strategy isn't the best way to go. THEN, you say, you are against me so I take back my 10%....It doesn't work that way. Dean is a liar and in my opinion a small-time scammer at this point. He refuses to payout debts owed and agreed upon based upon opinions being said which isn't reason to cancel out an agreement.

3) Finn as above was offered 1 BTC for finding a bug or error. He agreed to 1 BTC but based on previous bad business examples done by Dean he asked for payment up front. Instead Dean lies and says he asked for more and refuses to pay him. This is an example of Dean lying AGAIN and refusing to pay out offered amounts. Thus, again a scammer.

In my opinion, if everyone were to withdraw their money from PRCdice all at once, Dean would run with the money. He would blame the world for his site's failure and exclaim "You all owe me for the work I've done for the site and thus I deserve your funds". That would be the logic I truly think he would display as thats the type of immature person I take him as.

I've stayed out of this and have never once played or invested on PRCdice and after taking a good 30-60 minutes reading up on this and taking up both sides, I can truly say, I believe Dean will run eventually because he'll think he "deserves" it.

Just my thoughts. You all (investors) have been warned...

[dooglus]

Dooglus should get a reward of some kind, not sure on the amount but the fact that not even $1 was offered in compensation and acts like it absurd to pay someone for finding his mistake is the first reason.

In case you missed my post in this thread, Dean did eventually pay me the bounty, and I changed the trust feedback to "neutral".

Dooglus, maybe you should keep checking/withdraw your funds too, you might have a similar message stating, that the 1 btc was now taken back as we don't like you anymore.

Thanks for the warning, but I already withdrew the bounty payment. I don't leave my coins with third parties for long any more, whoever they are.

[pawel7777]

Dean, I always tried to be polite and never said anything bad against any of the site owners as we all in the same boat. Thus if you don't like something, don't call it scam.

I did it because I know BAC, it was fun to chat with him. When I got back from vac, I've ben told new "big" news as Dooglus and BAC left you huge red warning. It's good to see you've sorted it out. I tried to help BAC and don't care about 1BTC I gave him as I think people shall be rewared for good things. I know he will help me someday with promotion in exchange for this if I ask him.

And yes, I used that situation as promo ( not for traffic ), but it is you who made it possible. If it's such a shame I can ask BAC to remove it.

What do you mean by "as promo, not for traffic"? If BAC's site displayed info/ad of your site, then you could call it promo. But if it auto re-directs to your site, then it's all about traffic, isn't it?

If you paid him to do that, it's considered as rather dirty move. If that's how you want to play - fine, but why act all-innocent?

[Dondie]

Dooglus should get a reward of some kind, not sure on the amount but the fact that not even $1 was offered in compensation and acts like it absurd to pay someone for finding his mistake is the first reason.

In case you missed my post in this thread, Dean did eventually pay me the bounty, and I changed the trust feedback to "neutral".

Dooglus, maybe you should keep checking/withdraw your funds too, you might have a similar message stating, that the 1 btc was now taken back as we don't like you anymore.

Thanks for the warning, but I already withdrew the bounty payment. I don't leave my coins with third parties for long any more, whoever they are.

HOw much was the bounty given to you sir doog?

[NLNico]

Lol KOS, the "expert scammer", did you pay the 2 BTC back to BigBitz yet? Or you still talking BS about "USD value" on a BTC loan?

1. Dooglus have been given a 1 BTC bounty. I would agree this should have been sooner, but "ah well".

2. In the "real world" as you like to state it, affiliation networks have a long list of terms, this almost always includes:

- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in URL
- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in paid search
- Website/blog have to register to the program, after this the website/blog is checked/reviewed if it "fits their brand". If accepted, the website/blog can be removed from the program later for any reason (this would probably include calling the website a scam, etc.)
- And many other terms.

I don't know how many websites you had before and how many affiliation networks you joined, but I can promise you these are very normal terms. Of course officially there were no terms here, so in theory the "website/blog" (BAC) can do what he wants, but in theory PRC can also do what he wants, I guess.

Personally I would pay BAC just to get no drama. But considering: BAC got the affiliates with a domain with his "brand name", he said on that website PRC is a scam and he is now redirecting that site to a competitor.. I personally cannot really blame Dean for not paying BAC. Obviously clear terms would have solved this issue in the first place.


Besides all this, and this is not personally meant about BAC, but I BTW think those "domain dealers" are the lowest of the "legal internet business world". Reminds me of a former classmate who registered expired domains from local (non-profit) sport clubs and then demanded 500 euro for it. IMO that is just wrong and my classmate could better spend time in actually creating websites. But I guess my classmate was not really good in that. "Officially" there is probably nothing wrong with it (actually if the company is registered it is very questionable.) And obviously in this case it is a stupid mistake to not register that .com in the first place.

3. finnile demanded the bounty "now" before it was fixed. No bug bounty program would give you a bounty before it's fixed. It doesn't work that way. Since finnile didn't want to follow normal bug bounty procedures, he didn't get paid. His mistake, not Dean's mistake.

[suchmoon]

Personally I would pay BAC just to get no drama. But considering: BAC got the affiliates with a domain with his "brand name", he said on that website PRC is a scam and he is now redirecting that site to a competitor.. I personally cannot really blame Dean for not paying BAC. Obviously clear terms would have solved this issue in the first place.

I would agree that Dean might have a case for terminating the affiliate agreement for new sign ups, if the original terms were really "any party can end this at any time". But there is no reason other than extreme butthurt to refuse payment for existing players. BAC brought them in, Dean is taking the revenue, BAC should get his cut, is there any flaw in this logic?

[NLNico]

Yeh, I could agree with that. Although on a "traditional affiliate network" upon canceling of the "affiliate agreement" existing customers wouldn't generate affiliating revenues anymore either. And with that domain he wouldn't get any revenue ever at all to begin with. But again, obviously there were no "official terms" here.

In the end I am not completely agreeing with Dean btw since there were no official terms. Just saying I cannot blame him either. Hope that makes sense xD



Overall this is BTW about such a small amount (0.01 or less?) that it is just a bit silly

[Dabs]

Would he redirect if they did not pay him?

I was talking about the site that paid him to redirect. To be more clear, BAC redirects to a competitor, because that competitor paid BAC to do it.

Anyway, I hope this whole thing gets sorted out in the end.

[Chemistry1988]

Dooglus should get a reward of some kind, not sure on the amount but the fact that not even $1 was offered in compensation and acts like it absurd to pay someone for finding his mistake is the first reason.

In case you missed my post in this thread, Dean did eventually pay me the bounty, and I changed the trust feedback to "neutral".

Dooglus, maybe you should keep checking/withdraw your funds too, you might have a similar message stating, that the 1 btc was now taken back as we don't like you anymore.

Thanks for the warning, but I already withdrew the bounty payment. I don't leave my coins with third parties for long any more, whoever they are.

HOw much was the bounty given to you sir doog?

Dean has paid Doog 1 BTC in the end. You can read that in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9565937#msg9565937

[finnile]

3. finnile demanded the bounty "now" before it was fixed. No bug bounty program would give you a bounty before it's fixed. It doesn't work that way. Since finnile didn't want to follow normal bug bounty procedures, he didn't get paid. His mistake, not Dean's mistake.

I have been on the site, since the dice started. I didn't care if Dean paid me later on. But, I had to request it before, incase any changes were made to the database to cover up for those skipped bets(which at the time, was a UI error, and I had no reason to believe why it couldn't just be missed nonces)

Incase, I had asked dicebitco.in for a bounty, and didn't post the video before, they could easily activate a kill switch which would automatically cover up for those missing rolls. They could have refused to any such activity happening, and it would still be running well, and no one would believe any of what I said.
 I was not even paid a bounty for dicebitco.in, just because, I didn't wait for the site owner to come online, and tell him about the problem. manl refused a payment to me, for the same reason, that I went public with it first. But do you think, it was right for me, to not go public?
I am not a computer geek, and wouldn't have any ways of proving any of the problems later.

[BayAreaCoins]

Guys it just isn't worth talking about.

I only bought the domain because Dean muted me for linking Bitcointalk.org because he said he didn't want links to other Bitcoin places in the troll box... because all the Bitcoins should be there.  So I took my time out from the troll box to find out the .com was open and then I bought it .  So I wasn't like just lurking on the site and chose to be a fucker.  I don't want someone to compare my character to someone who buys out nonprofit local charities domains prior.... I was provoked from the start.

I put more time in that I should have for Dean by posting around and in JD chat.  It is what it is.  I don't want his coins and I don't even like thinking about the guy.

[KingOfSports]

Lol KOS, the "expert scammer", did you pay the 2 BTC back to BigBitz yet? Or you still talking BS about "USD value" on a BTC loan?

1. Dooglus have been given a 1 BTC bounty. I would agree this should have been sooner, but "ah well".

2. In the "real world" as you like to state it, affiliation networks have a long list of terms, this almost always includes:

- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in URL
- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in paid search
- Website/blog have to register to the program, after this the website/blog is checked/reviewed if it "fits their brand". If accepted, the website/blog can be removed from the program later for any reason (this would probably include calling the website a scam, etc.)
- And many other terms.

I don't know how many websites you had before and how many affiliation networks you joined, but I can promise you these are very normal terms. Of course officially there were no terms here, so in theory the "website/blog" (BAC) can do what he wants, but in theory PRC can also do what he wants, I guess.

Personally I would pay BAC just to get no drama. But considering: BAC got the affiliates with a domain with his "brand name", he said on that website PRC is a scam and he is now redirecting that site to a competitor.. I personally cannot really blame Dean for not paying BAC. Obviously clear terms would have solved this issue in the first place.


Besides all this, and this is not personally meant about BAC, but I BTW think those "domain dealers" are the lowest of the "legal internet business world". Reminds me of a former classmate who registered expired domains from local (non-profit) sport clubs and then demanded 500 euro for it. IMO that is just wrong and my classmate could better spend time in actually creating websites. But I guess my classmate was not really good in that. "Officially" there is probably nothing wrong with it (actually if the company is registered it is very questionable.) And obviously in this case it is a stupid mistake to not register that .com in the first place.

3. finnile demanded the bounty "now" before it was fixed. No bug bounty program would give you a bounty before it's fixed. It doesn't work that way. Since finnile didn't want to follow normal bug bounty procedures, he didn't get paid. His mistake, not Dean's mistake.

If you want to bring up the issues in my trust lets actually know the facts here. There was never an agreed upon loan for 4 BTC, it was 2 BTC to be repaid 2.01 BTC. I paid that. I'm not rewarding someone of their error for 6x their mistake at the time, that is absurd. I have and will always offer $275 in BTC, if BTC drops to $137.50 per coin then BigBitz will get his coins in his Bitcoin account. So go fuck yourself NLNico, I'm sure you're doing oh so well over there in internet-hardass land. Me myself am sitting pretty on quite a few coins and don't need to rely on bullshit investment scam sites like here to see my investment grow, thats what I have the trading bots I bought do for me instead.

[pawel7777]

If you want to bring up the issues in my trust lets actually know the facts here. [...]

And yet you brought up the issue of Dean's trust without checking the facts...

[wayshegoes]

Would he redirect if they did not pay him?

I was talking about the site that paid him to redirect. To be more clear, BAC redirects to a competitor, because that competitor paid BAC to do it.

Anyway, I hope this whole thing gets sorted out in the end.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't believe anyone would be stupid enough to pay BAC for that. They could as easily buy all the PRC domains (why would they ever do this anyway?) and redirect them to their site. This makes absolutely no sense.

So basically we have finnile who's a grubby little shit stirrer who decided to go against protocol and fuck himself for the sake of drama. His own fault

Then we have BAC who is a whiny child who cannot see anything he has done wrong, be it ripping off the PRC name or using his domain to let future players know that Dean isn't trustworthy and redirects to competitor sites.

Then we have some amazing advice from user "espringe" who is seemingly cool with his site being bankrolled by conmen and theives. Gotta love the bitcointalk community, a bunch of stand up folk.

[coolobama]

PRC will keep dooglus happy because PRC knows that with his negative trust site will die. I don't think prc will pay bay or fin. PRC owner is greedy.

[shitaifan2013]

Would he redirect if they did not pay him?

I was talking about the site that paid him to redirect. To be more clear, BAC redirects to a competitor, because that competitor paid BAC to do it.

Anyway, I hope this whole thing gets sorted out in the end.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't believe anyone would be stupid enough to pay BAC for that. They could as easily buy all the PRC domains (why would they ever do this anyway?) and redirect them to their site. This makes absolutely no sense.

So basically we have finnile who's a grubby little shit stirrer who decided to go against protocol and fuck himself for the sake of drama. His own fault

Then we have BAC who is a whiny child who cannot see anything he has done wrong, be it ripping off the PRC name or using his domain to let future players know that Dean isn't trustworthy and redirects to competitor sites.

Then we have some amazing advice from user "espringe" who is seemingly cool with his site being bankrolled by conmen and theives. Gotta love the bitcointalk community, a bunch of stand up folk.

I really dont think you're doing prc any favor with spreading such nonsense, since most people reading this thread or visiting the trollbox will associate you with dean/prc.

just as another example what I'm referring to: https://i.imgur.com/Cuv5ZFD.jpg