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January 12, 2015, 03:56:05 AM
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This person has sent positive trust to redsn0w for providing escrow services for a bitcointalk account purchase. Since he clearly has an alt account do you think it is appropriate to deny him a spot regardless of how much attention his posts will get?

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January 12, 2015, 04:14:14 AM
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This person has sent positive trust to redsn0w for providing escrow services for a bitcointalk account purchase. Since he clearly has an alt account do you think it is appropriate to deny him a spot regardless of how much attention his posts will get?

A, Yes,as you see, I got another account but I sold it,this is the only one I have now.

B, stingle will check my background, and if he deny me, that'fair and I'm OK with that.

C, No offense but this is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, you don't even enroll in this campaign.
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January 12, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
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You are wrong on this. He is currently enrolled in the bitmixer signature campaign which pays from their 1bitmixer... address. If he used bitmixer to mix his coins then you would most likely not know that he used a mixing service without significant resources (especially with bitmixer)

You are in effect denying him participation because he participated with a competitor campaign.

Can anybody else verify this?

Only tonygal would be able to verify this.
The amount sent from the bitmixer address matches the weekly maximum payout from the signature campaign (0.035 BTC). So I guess it is most probably payment from the signature campaign.
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January 12, 2015, 07:51:49 PM
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Today's qualified payments have been sent.

llanillo* - 0.025BTC - 4089011558120258d32a0402e05aa4001ff465b03cf01e28676d456d363a6f1c
farrukh - 0.025BTC - 08664b6213f7f33d71bff3344d68efd6dd41d9ea435da30cbe50e5d310e30c32

* While this enrollment has been paid, you are barred from future enrollment. You're advertising a click farm "blog" in your personal message and in posts, most of your activity is low-quality commentary in the off-topic section, and this account's history carries significant evidence of it having been created with the explicit purpose of signature farming. You didn't break any of the rules and were a successful enrollment, which is why you are being paid for this month, but your activity is not the type that Lucky Bit wishes to be associated with.

hi, stingle word
why i should be barred from future enrollment, as i didn't advertised a click farm "blog" in my personal message and in posts, and i hadn't been to the off topic section so far i guess and i had seriously not created this account for the purpose of signature farming.
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January 12, 2015, 08:23:53 PM
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Today's qualified payments have been sent.

llanillo* - 0.025BTC - 4089011558120258d32a0402e05aa4001ff465b03cf01e28676d456d363a6f1c
farrukh - 0.025BTC - 08664b6213f7f33d71bff3344d68efd6dd41d9ea435da30cbe50e5d310e30c32

* While this enrollment has been paid, you are barred from future enrollment. You're advertising a click farm "blog" in your personal message and in posts, most of your activity is low-quality commentary in the off-topic section, and this account's history carries significant evidence of it having been created with the explicit purpose of signature farming. You didn't break any of the rules and were a successful enrollment, which is why you are being paid for this month, but your activity is not the type that Lucky Bit wishes to be associated with.

hi, stingle word
why i should be barred from future enrollment, as i didn't advertised a click farm "blog" in my personal message and in posts, and i hadn't been to the off topic section so far i guess and i had seriously not created this account for the purpose of signature farming.


Hey farrukh,

As you can see the asterix (*) is behind llanillo's name. That means it only applies to him. As far as I can tell you haven't been barred from the campaign Smiley

ok thanks i didn't noticed that asterix . sorry
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January 13, 2015, 01:14:10 AM
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Is there a spot for me in this campaign? I would be interested in joining.

Sorry, no senior-level slots available at the moment. Keep checking the first reply in this thread for an up-to-date availability list.

Why don't you investigate the bitmixer signature campaign thread? According to their OP payment is made to the address in your bitcointalk.org profile. If you look at various accounts in the bitmixer signature campaign, you will see that the address associated with their profile has payments received from that adddress

Wow, since you're actually enrolled in that campaign you could have given a straight answer, but you didn't. Why the vitriol?

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Registered.

Only tonygal would be able to verify this.
The amount sent from the bitmixer address matches the weekly maximum payout from the signature campaign (0.035 BTC). So I guess it is most probably payment from the signature campaign.

That's enough information for me. Sorry about the confusion, tonygal, you have the option to take an 0.1BTC enrollment retroactively applied, or you can wait for a 0.15BTC slot.


hi, stingle word
why i should be barred from future enrollment, as i didn't advertised a click farm "blog" in my personal message and in posts, and i hadn't been to the off topic section so far i guess and i had seriously not created this account for the purpose of signature farming.

TheNewAnon135246 is correct, you're not barred.

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January 13, 2015, 03:12:12 AM
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...the option to take an 0.1BTC enrollment retroactively applied, or you can wait for a 0.15BTC slot.

Is it 0.15 or 0.125 as stated in your OP and title of the thread?

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January 13, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
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...the option to take an 0.1BTC enrollment retroactively applied, or you can wait for a 0.15BTC slot.

Is it 0.15 or 0.125 as stated in your OP and title of the thread?

Oops, it's 0.125BTC. That was a typo.

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January 13, 2015, 11:57:15 AM
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● Users registered on or before 11-01-15 will be honored as advertised (0.1BTC or 0.05BTC)

Stingleword,
can i apply for the 0.1BTC as i am registered before 11-01-15
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January 13, 2015, 02:58:21 PM
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● Users registered on or before 11-01-15 will be honored as advertised (0.1BTC or 0.05BTC)

Stingleword,
can i apply for the 0.1BTC as i am registered before 11-01-15

Are you trolling? Of course you can't, they're closed and you aren't high enough rank to join anyway! Your prior registration has already been paid at the rate you were advertised (0.025BTC) and you are not currently registered in the campaign.

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January 13, 2015, 03:39:57 PM
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I saved your post for a special reply, BTCreward. If you don't want to read it, then here's the TLDR: you have no clue what you are talking about and if you continue to make accusations they will come back to bite you, so you should probably leave this thread now.



You make a lot of rules to try to prevent alt accounts from participating but you have not succeeded. Wink It is not difficult to use multiple accounts in your campaign, it is just a headache to do so.

That's the point. If the headache isn't worth the payment, the cheaters find greener pastures.

Maybe if you judged participants by the quality of their posts instead of the number of accounts they had you would have better luck with your campaign.

I don't have to - the two indicators are closely correlated. Higher-quality posters are less likely to be using alts, and vice versa.

Regardless of the number of accounts a participant has if they are making relevant posts you are getting advertisement exposure.

And the more accounts a person has, the more they have to spam the forum and the lower-quality their posts become, the less-read their signature becomes, and the less exposure I get from their signature(s).

I would not say that someone who has more then one account is a scumbag nor a thief. I would consider you to be more of a thief by forcing participants to risk their money by gambling on your site any time they want to even apply to participate in your campaign.

Having two accounts doesn't make you a scumbag; using them to double-dip signature campaigns does. An analogy: XYZ widget corp wants ten individuals to do network marketing and tell people about the company personally. One person signs up under two pseudonyms and gets a double share the budget, even though he isn't capable of generating double the interest. He is also doing the same thing for XYZ's direct competitor, PDQ widgets, and collecting payment from both of them. While he is advertising both companies per his agreements, he is not generating the desired exposure because his advertising is less effective and is also conflicted - users exposed to him may choose XYZ, and they may choose PDQ; they may not know there is a difference, or think a PDQ product is produced by XYZ. He is stealing from both PDQ and XYZ, and damaging the bottom lines of both companies as well as any other company that chooses to use the same marketing technique and the entire marketing ecosystem as a whole; he is indirectly disparaging Johnny's Shoeshine because Johnny uses the same marketing technique, and potential customers hear about cheaters abusing the technique and assume Johnny must be a scammer because he uses it too.

I require each applicant to play a single game. This serves three purposes, none of which is stealing. The first is to verify address ownership and "lock in" the receipt address for an applicant. The second is to provide priority incentive to regular players. The third is to ensure our advertisers know what they are advertising and like it; if they don't, they shouldn't be advertising us. That requirement costs 0.001BTC and is not a hidden fee. If you consider this theft then you obviously have never been seriously stolen from. If an applicant won't play our game, I won't pay them to advertise it.

Now that you've accused me of being a thief and a scumbag, the gloves come off. You have exactly one warning. If you continue to disparage me, Lucky Bit, or this thread, I will be forced to take action including and not limited to reporting you to the staff and leaving you negative trust. I'm incredibly forgiving about unacceptable behavior up to a point and you have now reached that point.

I don't know what the house edge is on luckybit, nor do I care

Meaning, you don't give two tin shits about Lucky Bit or this campaign - you didn't even bother to spend 4 seconds on the site and find out the house edge and game rules. Why waste your time here?

but assuming it is 1% then the EV for people that apply is negative by 1%. This does not even count the fact that the gambler is forced to pay 2 TX fees on every bet which really makes the house edge much higher then advertised.

Assuming the player bets the minimum allowed and gets the worst possible results, the total loss before application is 0.001BTC. Do your homework before you sling accusations. Considering how much this campaign pays, asking our advertisers to actually play the game they are advertising isn't such a high bar. Most of our advertisers already play anyway; to them, this cost is zero!

If you want to talk about spam, I would suggest that you look at the spam your site puts on the blockchain as in the number of spammy transactions.

This point is in contention and is not accepted as truth by the majority. If it were, luke-jr would have his fork upstream. He doesn't; therefore, I assert that offchain gambling is no more spam than blockchain tag advertising - less so, in fact since it conducts business and transfers value, while tag spam does not. Also, our games are wicked earners for miners so they actually contribute positively to the network. I won't further this argument as it is already being discussed elsewhere on this forum.

Why would people in the bitmixer campaign be visiting your scammy signature campaign thread?

Well they certainly visit a lot more than the people in the 777coin campaign. So, why are you here? Just causing trouble? (Before you answer, I'd like to remind you that the gloves came off three paragraphs ago. My final point of civil advice to you is to leave this thread alone.)

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January 14, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
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Can I take the seven day extension? I didn't have a lot of time to post lately and only have less than a week to go.
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January 14, 2015, 05:01:14 PM
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can i enroll as full member ?
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January 14, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
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Yo. If a 0.125 BTC slot opens up (they seem to all be <pending>), shoot me a PM and I'll sign up. Cheers.

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January 14, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
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hi i just see that 0.125BTC slots, what does it means?
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January 14, 2015, 08:43:46 PM
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hi i just see that 0.125BTC slots, what does it means?

Those are <pending>. They will become <open> when current seniors and heroes end their terms in the campaign. You can register for them then.
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January 14, 2015, 11:28:32 PM
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Can I take the seven day extension? I didn't have a lot of time to post lately and only have less than a week to go.

Sure! Your completion date is now 25 Jan.

can i enroll as full member ?
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Sorry, your recent post history indicates you are not a good fit for this campaign; specifically, your post frequency is very low and you were previously removed from this campaign for low post count.

Yo. If a 0.125 BTC slot opens up (they seem to all be <pending>), shoot me a PM and I'll sign up. Cheers.

I don't normally do that because it gives an unfair advantage. Stay tuned though.

hi i just see that 0.125BTC slots, what does it means?

I've reorganized the pay scale, reduced enrollment slots and increased the pay. 0.125BTC slots will open as existing 0.1BTC enrollments finish.

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can i enroll as full member ?
Post count: 191

Bitcoin Address: 12fjtrzVLRiSiV1ZExbhnfg75XEKvL95R5

Recent Bet: http://luckyb.it/check?txin=470001d3614d0279918b8d14d48d3b5c4aa952742eb2884fcff970db0efc1ff7:0

Sorry, your recent post history indicates you are not a good fit for this campaign; specifically, your post frequency is very low and you were previously removed from this campaign for low post count.



Yes i dont post a lot actually "cause" i was without sig, last sig you banned me after 7day as it say   but in made my 50 post during this november month  and after dat i saw i was banned , np but the fact was i made the 50 posts required (between 9th nov and 4dec  but not 10 post during the first week , its true and i agree with my disqua)
I made 2 month for this campaign without issues , got one week off during my third enrollment  
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January 15, 2015, 01:00:16 AM
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Well, if anyone hasn't figured out what's going on here, this might clear things up.

Yes i dont post a lot actually "cause" i was without sig

If you're only posting to make money, this isn't the campaign for you.

I'm not paying people to post. I'm paying active forum users to carry a signature ad with their activity. The post requirement is easy to meet if you are active on the site. Sure, some people make "padding" posts occasionally, and I respect that within reason. But some people are posting almost entirely fluff - and while it may be technically qualified, it really violates the spirit of the campaign and amounts to spam. Other signature campaigns may be happy to get any advertising they get; I like to run things differently. Lucky Bit is one of the few games that has stood the test of time in a sea of shady operations and I honor that tradition by striving for honest participation and honest pay.

I'm not looking for people to post on the forum to advertise for Lucky Bit. I'm looking for people that post on the forum already, that wish to receive a commission for use of their signature space and are comfortable presenting Lucky Bit. The rules are designed to "fast-track" people that meet this criteria - the spirit of the campaign - and flag people that don't, making it easier to identify cheaters. It works, although I learned the hard way that it's no substitute for thorough investigation.

Thanks for the prompt all the same. I've chipped you a nifty tip as a consolation:

8dffefd115e9c691ae9d3930b2a05d46eddf69c8a3d9270612c63e210c042313

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January 15, 2015, 01:44:27 AM
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Well, if anyone hasn't figured out what's going on here, this might clear things up.

Yes i dont post a lot actually "cause" i was without sig

If you're only posting to make money, this isn't the campaign for you.

I'm not paying people to post. I'm paying active forum users to carry a signature ad with their activity. The post requirement is easy to meet if you are active on the site. Sure, some people make "padding" posts occasionally, and I respect that within reason. But some people are posting almost entirely fluff - and while it may be technically qualified, it really violates the spirit of the campaign and amounts to spam. Other signature campaigns may be happy to get any advertising they get; I like to run things differently. Lucky Bit is one of the few games that has stood the test of time in a sea of shady operations and I honor that tradition by striving for honest participation and honest pay.

I'm not looking for people to post on the forum to advertise for Lucky Bit. I'm looking for people that post on the forum already, that wish to receive a commission for use of their signature space and are comfortable presenting Lucky Bit. The rules are designed to "fast-track" people that meet this criteria - the spirit of the campaign - and flag people that don't, making it easier to identify cheaters. It works, although I learned the hard way that it's no substitute for thorough investigation.

Thanks for the prompt all the same. I've chipped you a nifty tip as a consolation:

8dffefd115e9c691ae9d3930b2a05d46eddf69c8a3d9270612c63e210c042313


 I never said i post for money .... but  yes i dont post 50 post per month. Dat is my personnality  , i prefer read other and learn from them then write my point of view on evrything
I choose LB campain cause i use LB until February 2014 and i want to promote it cause LB is a great site . As i can help someone in LB chat (when mod are offline for exemple) i want to do same on Btctalk and dat was the goal of the sig for me.
So I gonna be more active and try to enroll later , if you want to me in of course ...
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